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Is that true, village?
An example would be AOK, Ironhead5, and Split are all tied at 9 votes each. Wolves start momentum to AOK, who's a wolf, and AOK is pushed to 16 votes while the other two still have 9.
People then conclude rhat AOK must be a scapegoat and the votes melt.

It's not certain, and can be hard to do as you often also need non mates to follow, but can be a way to save a mate who otherwise seems lost.

If somebody is pushed too far in front they'll be considered likely good, due to how they're being bandwagoned. That then makes people think twice and move elsewhere and you can end up with I5 and Split still being in front while AOK falls to just 3 votes and is out of contention.
 
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Thanks, Wagon. I still think you could be a wolf. :p

Why don’t you try to persuade me? Explain why you (tried) to vote snipe twice.

I only tried once and they was because I followed the good advice of Wagon
 
Alright, let's look at possible packmate combinations.

The two variables that I will be testing are as follows:
-Does MAW's vote on Marty on Day 1 clear him (as Marty was in the tie until 2 minutes were left before the deadline).
-Does Beartjah, Culann 2.0, and Wagonlitz's vote on MAW on Day 2 clear them?

I will also have three constants in this analysis.
-I will be treating Yakman as a villager, because of Alxeu's spy report on Yakman seems to indicate that interpretation.
-I am a villager. Unfortunately you have to take my word for it, but as Arkasas said once, "Killing Dedonus is like killing Dedonus; you think it's a good idea at the time and then it turns out it's not." And if I am lynched today, the villager will find out that it was not a good idea.
-We are looking for three baddies.

So if we were to remove Yakman and me from the player list, we have left:

Emperor Ike
marty
Flockingbird
aedan
Culann
beartjah
Wagonlitz

Scenario 1: both variables are true

In this scenario, MAW's vote clears Marty, while Beartjah, Culann 2.0, and Wagonlitz's vote on MAW on Day 2 clear them. I'm starting with this scenario first because it clears out as many players as possible. When we remove these four players, the list looks like this:

Emperor Ike
Flockingbird
aedan

Looking at the vote counts, there's isn't anything that is ruling out Aedan and Ike from being packmates. However, Flockingbird voted Ike on Day 2 and 3, where Ike was a main candidate at one point on those days. She was the first vote on Ike on Day 2, so that technically could have been an alibi vote, but Day 3's vote looks more convincing, as she moved off of Randy and placed Ike in a tie with Randy and Ike.

So, two conclusions. First, if Ike or Flockingbird were baddies, they are highly unlikely both to be baddies. And second, we must question the two variables in this analysis, as we need three wolves, but because of conclusion 1, we only have 2.

Scenario 2: Marty variable is false, but votes on MAW is true

This scenario essentially only adds Marty to the list. Although I do lean towards having Marty as being a villager, because he was tied with Ironhide until 2 minutes before deadline, we have seen wolf packs sacrifice zombie pack members before (IIRC, that happened in one recently). On Day 4, he was voting with the other three players let on this list.

So in this scenario, the pack would have to be aedan, marty, and either Ike or FLockingbird as the third member.

Scenario 3: Marty variable is true, but votes on MAW is false

This scenario assumes that MAW had scanned Caillean with his sorc scan and the wolves already knew they would be hunting her.

The most extreme conclusion here is that Beartjah, Wagonliz, and Culann are the pack and for whatever reason, they're throwing MAW under the bus so they can look clear later in the game. However, there is one issue here: Aedan claimed to have seer scanned Wagonlitz. If Aedan is telling the true, then Wagon could only be a cultist. But if Aedan is lying, then it wouldn't make sense. Aedan would have to be a baddie to lie about that and that would be more than three baddies.

Day 4 also shows that Beartjah, Wagonlitz, and Culann are probably unlikely packmates of Flockingbird. They were one vote switch away from tying Randy and Flockingbird.

I'm unfortunately running out of time to make any more analysis (especially exploring the fourth scenario, but that would just be saying everyone is possible as baddies, except for the mutual exclusive packmates I have already mentioned.

If I somehow manage to stay alive, I'll try to build off of this tomorrow.
 
unofficial count.

Emperor Ike: 4
Marty [537]
Dedonus [545]
Yakman 554
Flockingbird

Dedonus: 3
Aedan [531]
beartjah [535]
Culann [549]

Flockingbird: 2
Wagonlitz [512]
Emperor Ike
 
I AM A VILLAGER WITH THE PLOTTER TRAIT. DO NOT KILL ME.

@beartjah
@Culann
@Flockingbird
@Emperor Ike
@Wagonlitz

It's just as plausible that you're a wolf with a plotter trait as usual your logic is sound to me. Let's for a moment assume you are a villager the most sensible candidate based on your scenarios is Aedan or Flockingbird. Aedan is a difficult sell for me unless both Aedan and Wagon are wolves which isn't a scenario you have, and I agree they both can't be wolves. Flockingbird is on the other hand much better candidate for me to accept obviously as I already have tried to lynch her. It is an alternative candidate but we don't have much time to do a vote switch.
 
I'm dead anyways better to give the village one more day to instead giving the wolfs extra villagers
This feels a lot like a villager giving up to me...

Bugger.
I don't think either of the front runners are good.
Don't think Deo or Ike are wolves...
 
I gotta vote. I’m more convinced that Ike is a wolf than Dedonus. Wagon will decide. If you’re a villager, Wagon, please be right.

VOTE EMPEROR IKE.
Sadly I'm much in doubt.
Had planned on sniping in a tie to maximise chances, but Deos analysis post combined with the plotter claim makes me think Deo is a villager.

And realising Marty likely is cleared means that my clearings from earlier are off, and thar would leave Ike as the one most likely to not be cleared.
Doing it as a snipe to minimise the chance I'm hunted, as I feel like the wolves see me as a useful idiot atm. Meaning they might allow me to live.
Thkugh, I am seerish cleared so I likely am next up yo be hunted, unless we're lucky and have a GA or doc, but I am starting to doubt that.

So yeah, I'm likely a goner.

Though, I do have this nagging suspicion that both Deo and Ike might be wolves and trying to prevent two wolves being tied...
But I'll give Deo the benefit of the doubt, for now at least.

Had written the above some minutes ago.
Ikes giving up makes me feel like they're a villager.

As such I'll
Unvote Flock
Vote Deo