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Tinto Maps #14 - 9th of August 2024 - Western Africa

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps, the day of the week for map nerds lovers! This week we will be taking a look at Western Africa! These lands were named historically in different ways, although probably the most widespread naming was Guinea, which also names the Gulf that makes for the southern limit of the region, with the Atlantic Ocean being to the west, the Sahara desert to the north, and the lands around Lake Chad making for the approximate eastern border.

With these regions, we’re also leaving the ‘Easy Mode Map-Making’ of Project Caesar, as getting comprehensive sources of information for 1337 for most of Sub-Saharan Africa is challenging, as the traditional historical record was oral, in contrast with the written records usual in Eurasia. In any case, we did our best to depict the rich history and geography of the region and its diversity, which is stunning. Let’s start, then!

Countries:
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The most important country, and one of the world's great powers, is the Empire of Mali, which in 1337 is at its zenit, still ruled by the infamous Mansa Mūsā. It controls not only the core lands of the Mandé-speaking peoples, but also holds the overlordship over Jolof, most of the fertile Niger river basin, and some of the most important Saharan outposts. To its south-east, the Mossi are organized in several polities (Ougadagou, Gwiriko, Yatenga, Boussouma, Tenkodogo, and Liptako). South into the coast, Kong, Dagbon, Bonoman, and Mankessim are polities ruled by the Dyula, the Dagbani, and the Akan (the last two). To the east, Fada N’gourma, Borgu, and Mamprugu connect with the lands of the Hausa, which rule from several city-states: Kebbi, Gobir, Zafara, Katsina, Daura, Kano, Rano, and Zazzau. Further to the east, the Empire of Kanem rules the lands around Lake Chad from its capital in Njimi, and over some of the Saharan corridors, making it the region's second wealthiest country. And finally, further to the south, there are the lands of the Nupe, the Yoruba (Oyo, Ife, Ijebu, Owo), the Edo (Benin), and the Igbo (Nri).

Dynasties:
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The dynasties of the region are a mix of well-known ones, such as the Keita of Mali, the Ndiaye of Jolof, or the Sayfawa of Kanem, and randomly generated ones for the rest of the polities, as we don’t have good enough sources on who was ruling over most of them in 1337.

Locations:
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The locations of Western Africa. We’ve tried our best to find suitable locations, correct naming, etc., although I’m sure there might be plenty of feedback to apply.

Provinces:
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Areas:
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Terrain:
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This week we have proper Terrain mapmodes at the release of the Tinto Maps… Not much to say about them, though, as the climate and vegetation are pretty straightforward, being divided into Arid and Tropical; while the vegetation goes from desert and sparse beside the Sahara, to increasingly more forested terrain, until reaching the tropical jungles by the coast. The topography is not very fragmented, with the Guinean Highlands and the Adamawa Plateau being the most important landmarks.

Natural Harbors:
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A new map mode this week, coming from the latest Tinto Talks! There are some decent natural harbors in the region, with Banana Islands (where Freetown would be founded), Elmina, and Calabar being the best ones.

Cultures:
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A beautiful map this week… I may repeat that we tried our best to approach the region, taking into account that this was the first African region we completed, around 3 years ago. When we review it, we may add some more diversity, as we have now some more tools than the ones we had back in time, but we think that it’s way best to read your feedback first, to make sure we are on the same page.

Religions:
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Take this map as very WIP. The Sunni-Animism division is kind of accurate, with the expected division for 1337 (Islam would later on advance more to the South, but we think this is the best for this date). What we have yet to do is to divide the ‘Animism’ population into some of the regional variants; we already have plenty of data, but we also want to read your feedback on this first.

Raw Materials:
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The goods of the region are quite diverse and very dependent on the geography. In the Saharan lands, there are plenty of locations with resources such as Salt, Copper, or Alum (regarding this resource, the lands to the north of Lake Chad make for the densest Alum hub in the world for 1337, something the historical sources talk about). Livestock is king in the Sahelian lands, while there are plenty of agricultural goods in the Niger river basin. The region is also full of luxury goods, of which Gold is the most relevant, as being the biggest supply of this metal to the Mediterranean and Europe in the Late Middle Ages, while also having others such as Ivory, Gems, or Spices (which in this region are portraying some goods such as kola nuts, or malagueta pepper). Finally, the coasts of the Gulf of Guinea have plenty of Fish. Maybe the only type of good that is not very abundant in the region is metals, as having some Iron, Tin, etc., but not much in comparison with other regions.

Markets:
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Markets of the region, have an interesting distribution. The most important ones in 1337 are Niani, Kano, and Njimi, which are also connected to the Northern African markets, making it possible to get plenty of wealth by exporting well-demanded goods throughout the Sahara (for instance, exporting Gold or Alum for good money is a very viable strategy ATM). Later on, after the Age of Discovery, the coastal markets may get connected to other markets, making them more relevant, and maybe switching the power balance of the region from the North to the South, as historically happened (but take it as a ‘maybe’, not for granted, OFC!).

Population:
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Population of the region. We’ve improved a bit our tracking of the population data, to avoid further problems like the one we had with Germany. I can tell you that the total population of Western Africa is around 5.6M people, which is divided into 2.2M for the Sahel, and 3.3M for the coast of Guinea. You may very well notice that the hegemonic power here may be Mali, with around 700k people, but also that there are many more people not living under the rule of a polity, than living under it, which will make for interesting gameplay on how to deal with it (more about this in a later Tinto Talks, soon…).

And, speaking of that, I have the sad news that next Friday there is a bank holiday here in Spain, so there won’t be a Tinto Maps. The next one will be on Friday 23rd, and we will be taking a look at Eastern Africa! Until then, you may still stay tuned, as we will be replying to feedback, as usual, and we may have some informal maps incoming. Cheers!
 
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Really, I can't even see gameplay being viable with just some 1M people in the area. It's just too puny. Can we get a PDX game launch without Africa being horribly, ahistorically crippled?
West Africa currently has 5.6 millions pops and if anything Pavia will ad some more .

How did you get the 1m number?
 
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I was unaware there were also difficulties in maintaining cavalry in the sahel. How did they fare in the sudanian savanna, between the sahel proper and the guinean forests?
Iirc that was a persistent problem for Ghana, Mali, and Songhai and a quick google shows that a subspecies does exist through much of the savanna band

Additional diseases and year round conditions for the fly made matters worse in the forest belt but it was still a problem. Which is why sahelian states continued to import horses from the north whenever possible
 
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Iirc that was a persistent problem for Ghana, Mali, and Songhai and a quick google shows that a subspecies does exist through much of the savanna band

Additional diseases and year round conditions for the fly made matters worse in the forest belt but it was still a problem. Which is why sahelian states continued to import horses from the north whenever possible
There was also a northward migration of the fly in the late 16th century, IIRC. Had some effects on politics.
 
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Wait, I'd misremembered his estimate. Looking at the page now, he supposes the total for West Africa in 1000 AD was 9M, and 15M in 1500 AD. Those actually are credible estimates. Why is the EU5 population so low in comparison?
That would mean around 13.5 for 1337 if we assume a somewhat linear growth although I doubt growth was linear, west african pop probably grew faster in the XIV and XV centuries due to the development of trade networks. Based on those estimates and assuming Paradox is trying to be conservative for the region (balancing I assume) I would for ~11M, or roughly doubling the current population.
 
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Iirc that was a persistent problem for Ghana, Mali, and Songhai and a quick google shows that a subspecies does exist through much of the savanna band

Additional diseases and year round conditions for the fly made matters worse in the forest belt but it was still a problem. Which is why sahelian states continued to import horses from the north whenever possible
Then perhaps the horse producing provinces on the Sahel should be removed? I'm not too familiar with horse breeding in the region but having no native horse producing provinces would force west african countries to import horses from the magreb.
 
That would mean around 13.5 for 1337 if we assume a somewhat linear growth although I doubt growth was linear, west african pop probably grew faster in the XIV and XV centuries due to the development of trade networks. Based on those estimates and assuming Paradox is trying to be conservative for the region (balancing I assume) I would for ~11M, or roughly doubling the current population.
I really have to question what their idea of "balancing" is. It took Origins for even one tag there to be MP-viable and CK3 has its own fresh hell of a minigame to ensure medieval Africans don't get to play either.
 
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That would mean around 13.5 for 1337 if we assume a somewhat linear growth although I doubt growth was linear, west african pop probably grew faster in the XIV and XV centuries due to the development of trade networks. Based on those estimates and assuming Paradox is trying to be conservative for the region (balancing I assume) I would for ~11M, or roughly doubling the current population.
Well, there's speculation that the Black Death reached West Africa and caused the decline of certain settlements/cultures. So if that is in fact what happened, that'd be one dip in population growth.
 
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Well, there's speculation that the Black Death reached West Africa and caused the decline of certain settlements/cultures. So if that is in fact what happened, that'd be one dip in population growth.
That's believed to have come during the time of Musa's grandsons, not at the height of his rule, in 1337.
 
That's believed to have come during the time of Musa's grandsons, not at the height of his rule, in 1337.
Yes but the idea is to go from a certain population before the black death and the slave wars and end up with what we ended up with after. If we assume constant population growth to that point then the initial population would have to be very small. But if we assume the black death and the slave wars supresed population growth and even decreased population in the region we have much greater cause to believe the really high population numbers that the primary sources actually give us.
 
Could Oyo Empire gain an alt-history path where they'd end up officially adopting the Arabic writing system?
Since we know that language in going to be separate from culture I would hope that would be represented via a game mechanic for all nations where you can adopt a different language (in this case arabic) as your main legal language.
 
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Then perhaps the horse producing provinces on the Sahel should be removed? I'm not too familiar with horse breeding in the region but having no native horse producing provinces would force west african countries to import horses from the magreb.
I don't think so, they had and bred local horses. It's similar to how Chinese dynasties regularly imported horses for their cavalry despite having local production and the location of the horse provinces seem fine especially given the tsetse migration @Lightwell let me know about
 
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I don't think so, they had and bred local horses. It's similar to how Chinese dynasties regularly imported horses for their cavalry despite having local production and the location of the horse provinces seem fine especially given the tsetse migration @Lightwell let me know about
The issue is that the horse trade is the more important thing to represent! The goods exist where they are mostly in order to simulate historical trading patterns. The game doesn't know the things you know, so horse production needs to be configured to produce importation of horses into West Africa. Same for China.
 
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It is interesting that so few people recommended religions despite the Tinto Maps asking for religion recommendations specifically. Does anyone know about this?
 
It might be a bit low, so we'll most likely review the numbers, yes (although do not expect a massive increase; a first thought after taking a look at our original work and feedback here may be having at least 8 million, our original idea, but we will do this review carefully, as usual).
8 mil is already a massive increase of 60%. Good to hear!
 
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It's good that you are reviewing population numbers here.

I can't speak nearly as well as some others on this forum regarding cultures or empires of the time, but Mali in particular would better be represented by local governances owing fealty to the Mansa, at game start Mansa Musa. ~1m people for the entire empire, including Jolof, is honestly absurdly fucking low, by at least an order of magnitude. I agree that it is difficult to determine population numbers due to the lack of census records and most of the history of the region being either second hand accounts by Arabic travelers or oral records which may only be partially preserved. However, every source I find indicates much much higher population numbers than what you have represented here. From sources others have posted you can see major metropolitan areas having estimated populations of near 100 thousand people, so I won't reiterate that point.
Dubious sources (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Musa-I-of-Mali) have Mansa Musa's Hajj as having an entourage of 60,000 men and an additional 12,000 slaves. Taking this number at face value, this would mean that 1/10th of the population you have listed went. Disregarding it, we can look at what contemporary Arabic sources say - according to Alice Willard at Johns Hopkins (https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1282&context=ccr) - the Mali empire at its peak had a "standing army [...] numbered more than 100,000 men." Whether this was truly a standing army (somewhat doubtful) or just the military force Mali was capable to bringing to fore in the form "vassal levies" (more likely, from my reading much of the fighting force of the Mali empire consisted of contributions from subject governances, who were subject governances as they had supported Sundiata Keita in the initial conquests), we can still use it to estimate the population in the regions under Mali control. In the case of levies, taking ~10% of the population to go fight was feasible, if strenuous and unsustainable, for most powers at the time. If it was actually a standing army, 2% of the population would be the maximum. From this, I would put the total population of the Mali Empire between 10 and 20 million people, which fits the estimate others have put forward of 14 million. Of course the population of other regions would need to be revisited as well, especially Yorubaland and the Niger Delta.

If these numbers seem high, there's good reason. For a while, the prevailing opinion was that the black death did not reach sub-Saharan Africa, and so the population there did not experience any huge dip like we see in Europe. However, current evidence indicates that its likely that sub-Saharan Africa, especially the Sahel and the Horn, suffered similarly from the plague. Here's my source, published in 2019: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.363.6431.1022 . A couple notable points they make:
1. The plague is endemic to the region. This has been known for a while and was originally thought to have arrived in the 19th century from India or China.
2. Archeological sites in Ghana, Burkina Faso, and Nigeria have turned up evidence that settlements, some of which which had been concurrently settled from as early as 100CE, were abandoned without evident reason in the late 14th century. “There was a deep, structural change in settlement patterns” -Gérard Chouin. "[Anne] Stone says the sudden changes at Kirikongo and Akrokrowa resemble those seen in the British Isles during the Justinian Plague in the sixth to the eighth centuries C.E."
3. Ethiopian records indicate from the 13th-15th century record epidemics, including one that killed “such a large number of people that no one was left to bury the dead.”
4. Genetic testing from a study in 2016 found that the subgroup of Yersinia Pestis (the bubonic plague) now found only in East and Central Africa was "the closest living relative to the Black Death strain,” -Monica Green
Unfortunately, none of this is conclusive on its own, human remains with Y. Pestis evidence have yet to be found from the time period, though much of this is due to the climate making preserving those remains much more difficult. Regardless, the authors of the article conclude "Whatever calamity struck medieval sub-Saharan Africa, its impact was lasting. Akrokrowa was abandoned by about 1365, and Kirikongo was never the same." In my opinion, this is enough to include the Black Death's expansion into the region in PC, and 1365 fits the timeline of the black death's spread through europe, to north africa, and finally across the saharan trade routes into west africa. It would certainly be a lot of work to correct a lot of this, but I've been impressed with the team at Tinto's dedication to getting things as right as possible and willingness to work with the community on the development so far, so I'm hopeful.

I'm looking forward to the tinto talk, or at least information, regarding fixing animism to make sense.
 
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Reposting this here for religion feedback.

Much of this is taken straight from the files of M&T (the mod I work on), with credit to @gigau especially. I hope this can be of use for both naming and for research.

West Africa:

  • Maguzanci (Hausa)
  • Abwoi (Nigerian plateau)
  • Akom (Akan/Fante religious tradition - lit. means "possession")
  • Vodun (Aja, Ewe, and Fon peoples)
  • Abasi ("God" in Efik)
  • Osanobua ("God" in Edo)
  • Odinala (Igbo religion)
  • A Fat Roog (lit. "the way of the divine" in the Serer languages)
  • Wedraogo (Ijo religion)
  • Isese (Yoruba religion)
  • Egbesu (Ijaw religion)
  • Nummo (Dogon religion)
  • Mande people are predominantly Muslim at start, but secret societies like the Poro, Sande, and Komo were probably religiously important - maybe a name could be based off that
The spelling is "a ƭat Roog". Looks like an f, but it's actually ƭ, a t with a hook, representing /ɗ̥/ (something close to a "t-sound". I think "A Tat Roog" would be a superior spelling.

Isese is properly spelled Ìṣẹ̀ṣe in Yoruba. Those dots beneath the s turn into /ʃ/ (the "sh-sound"). So Isheshe would be a better spelling.

How come you have both Ijo and Ijaw? When I google Wedraogo I get an ancestor of the Mossi people, and Egbesu leads me to a god of justice (but not the creator god it looks like).
 
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The ruler after Musa, his son Maghan, should have poor economic discipline, it was his mismanagement which gave Jolof the opportunity to break free while his predecessor was sorting out the financial problems