Tinto Maps #27 - 22nd of November 2024 - Oceania

[Kaspar Osraige]

The language/culture diversity is insanely good, but I am very disappointed about no settled countries in Polynesia. I hope you lax your standards a bit to make at least, Tonga, Fiji, Samoa, Hawai'i and Maori playable, as all of those came to possess kingdoms by the end of the game.

 

[IluminatiX]

Aloh...'wow !

 

[mpsdevil]

No societies of pops in Australia / PNG?

 

[Spiritoftwinings]

I can't see it in the maps, what about Easter Island / Rapa Nui? Can you give us a detailed look to it?

 

[Bluehunter]

Pearl Harbor is clearly present, well. Where is Rabaul then?

 

[matfer13]

Seriously though, no landed Tongan Empire? They even expanded into other islands in the previous centuries and lasted for almost 1000 years!

 

[AHumpierRogue]

Glad we won't be seeing developed australian tags this go around. It just made little sense to have them playable in the EU4 way(even SoP's would be a bit much, IMO). I am a bit surprised that the polynesians are all SoP's, though I admit I am not super familiar with them I'd have expected some tags but IDK as long as SoP's are eventually added it's fine.

I am assuming the Wheat in australia is more indicative of where it can grow once the area gets colonized? Should probably be something else to start.

 

[matfer13]

Finally! New New Zealand!

 

[Myxach]

as all of those came to possess kingdoms by the end of the game.

sop may become a settled tag

 

[FleetingRain]

Man, that's a lot of locations in Australia. 437 locations with a gigantic wasteland in the middle; I'd expect a colonial region with no tags and sparsely populated to this day to have fewer locations!

Not that it's a bad thing, I guess, but this is interesting nonetheless and I wonder what it means for my Brazil map suggestion

 

[tinholt]

Why does Australia pre-colonization have animal husbandry? Will areas that have no nation states, and which will likely be colonized, just get the raw materials they have in modern times?

 

[matfer13]

And the next one will be a the Balkans, next week!

@Pavía please sir may we know when this awaited event will occur?

 

[Big_birdy]

i was prepared to make a suggestion for australian cultures but it looks like you guys did a good job i just gotta fix that horrible vegetation map

 

[LordThanatos]

Are these the Banda Isles (They seem just the tiniest bit too far East, but that might be some weird projection thing or my imagination), and are they a playable location?

 

[matfer13]

When is the Indian Ocean Tinto maps comeing out?

 

[Flower_Marlin]

It's a bit hilarious to see how "empty" this region is, now that we have societies of pops. Though I believe Tu'i Tonga should be structured enough around 1337 to be considered a settled country?

I would assume events would allow the stateless societies of Hawai'i and Samoa to also be elevated to State society status during gameplay, but it'd be great to add atleast Tu'i Tonga as a playable nation at game start.

 

[Mef]

Resources are, in general terms, quite basic, food-oriented ones; although Australia is more varied, obviously, and there are some areas very rich in Pearls.

I would like to point out that this 1921 report on iron ore mentions:
"Oceania has enough iron ore to support a local industry, but her reserves do not amount to an appreciable part of the world's total." (Page 30)

This is of course completely wrong from today's standpoint, as we now know that Australia has some of the highest grade iron ore on the planet and is the world's leading producer.
But not only did the natives not develop ironworking, these abundant reserves weren't even discovered by 1921.

This is something to consider when placing iron here, I think...

 

[matfer13]

No Galapagos and Easter Island?

 

[antalguerrero]

Hello Pavia, I see that there are 'tropecientas' cultures here. Your documentation work is simply amazing.
I imagine that with so many cultures, the code itself must not be very long for all these "indigenous" cultures.
It would be wonderful, for those of us who are very interested in modding cultures, if you could share the code of a native culture from Oceania compared to the code of a, let's say, large culture from Europe. So that we can get an idea of the magnitude of certain projects.
Thank you very much for your work.

 

[Gurtannon]

“we will continue posting Tinto Maps Feedback posts in the next few months.“

few months??

Other regions looks far less polished compared to Europe, but somehow feedbacks of Europe gets more time than rest of world combined lol

I feel like feedbacks of these reigons will be super rushed despite requiring more time (most doesnt even have minorities etc, so there will be less time for revising feedbacks as they need to complete the maps first)