Right now in the game mechanics, characters normally gain surnames through their dynasties or houses. This means lowborn characters don't have surnames at all - which works fine for european settings. But this doesn't make sense for some east asian ,especially chinese, where even most lowborn people have fixed surnames from birth.
like Liu Bang (founder of Han Dynasty) or Zhu Yuanzhang (future Ming Dynasty founder) - both kept their surnames despite starting as poor peasants. A lowborn person might upgrade their crude givenname to something classier after climbing the ranks (like how Zhu Yuanzhang changed from 'Chongba' (just means ’double eight‘ - thx to the Yuan dynasty homies for thier insane math achieves XD). but the surname usually stay locked in from birth - unless we're talking special cases like imperial grants of royal surnames or adoptive fathers' surnames.
As shown in the screenshot, current Chinese characters are affected by this problem. A lowborn character only has a given name, then randomly gets assigned a surname when becoming "noble" through dynasty affiliation. This feels pretty illogical in 9th china.
I think this issue is similar to the much-discussed problem with East Asian name order (oh, and Hungarian bros too!) – fixing it would add awesome cultural flavor, but honestly, I'm not sure if CK3's current system can handle it smoothly.
like Liu Bang (founder of Han Dynasty) or Zhu Yuanzhang (future Ming Dynasty founder) - both kept their surnames despite starting as poor peasants. A lowborn person might upgrade their crude givenname to something classier after climbing the ranks (like how Zhu Yuanzhang changed from 'Chongba' (just means ’double eight‘ - thx to the Yuan dynasty homies for thier insane math achieves XD). but the surname usually stay locked in from birth - unless we're talking special cases like imperial grants of royal surnames or adoptive fathers' surnames.
As shown in the screenshot, current Chinese characters are affected by this problem. A lowborn character only has a given name, then randomly gets assigned a surname when becoming "noble" through dynasty affiliation. This feels pretty illogical in 9th china.
I think this issue is similar to the much-discussed problem with East Asian name order (oh, and Hungarian bros too!) – fixing it would add awesome cultural flavor, but honestly, I'm not sure if CK3's current system can handle it smoothly.
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