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DruddigonEnjoyer said:
Could someone explain the whole this week idea to me please, I've only been checking every now and then
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Basically PDX had a bunch of YouTubers come out to the Tinto studios last week, probably to play the game, possibly to record videos for it (though that's mostly conjecture). Also Johan has announced he's going to be too busy the next few weeks to do the Dev Diaries, so people are hoping that it's a sign of an imminent announcement, with the streamers being allowed to upload gameplay and show the game off at the same time or shortly thereafter.
 
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Traum77 said:
Basically PDX had a bunch of YouTubers come out to the Tinto studios last week, probably to play the game, possibly to record videos for it (though that's mostly conjecture). Also Johan has announced he's going to be too busy the next few weeks to do the Dev Diaries, so people are hoping that it's a sign of an imminent announcement, with the streamers being allowed to upload gameplay and show the game off at the same time or shortly thereafter.
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Yeah I gotta be honest that sounds pretty damning to me, every time they invite content creators something is up
 
I think the "this week" thing was a meme from the fact the youtubers went last weekned.

I am still on hopium that it will be this month due to Ludis comments in his deleted video about "having lots of eu5 content in the channel in a month". But we'll see.

Bargey said:
So, part of me still has hope that tomorrow could be an announcement. The "core mechanics feedback" era of Tinto Talks has clearly been bookended as of last week's dev diary, and we're now onto, in essence, advertisement of more flavourful and specific mechanics and gameplay loops. Additionally, it's been over a week now since the event in Stiges and I doubt that Tinto would go through the trouble of bringing all these content creators to their studio to try the game (and likely record) if they didn't plan to have an announcement somewhat imminently.

On the other hand, there's been no fanfare from PDX or Tinto at all about "news soon!". Not that I'm expecting a PDXCon style event, but even an announcement livestream scheduled a day in advance would be something I expect, and we've yet to see that.

Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but even for recent DLC announcements from paradox there's been a day or week of teasers and a "Join us tomorrow at 10am for some big news!". We haven't even got that here (though you can argue that there's absolutely nothing to tease with EU5. It's all laid bare except for the release date and name drop.).

Since we've not even got a slight teaser, nor any heads up or news stream scheduled, I'm inclined to believe that we won't get an announcement this week. I could be wrong, and maybe they shadow-drop an announcement on some date without any heads up, but I just find that somewhat unlikely given that I can't recall Paradox ever doing that in recent years, not even for a expansion.
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Playing devils advocate (as im in the hopium train), the visit from the YouTubers could have been a first meet up to show them the studio and maybe even the game, and especially as a first meeting to organize a future event. Like videos, announcement, post announcement stuff. But that does not mean it would be imminent. They might have formed a work group to start working on announcement and post announcement several months ahead of it.
 
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People on this forum seems to think that it's expensive for a big company to fly a dozen dudes to one of its offices. My employer (not a huge corporate dinosaur) regularly flies in students from all around the country in order for them to attend glorified marketing/networking events, it's reasonable that relevant streamers will be allowed to attend 2-3 private Paradox events before the game is even announced.
 
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I reckon it'll be announced within a month. I mean they had all the youtubers come to Sitges and post jokes about it being a secret etc. and Johan is 'busy'.
 
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JacceDON said:
People on this forum seems to think that it's expensive for a big company to fly a dozen dudes to one of its offices. My employer (not a huge corporate dinosaur) regularly flies in students from all around the country in order for them to attend glorified marketing events, it's reasonable that relevant streamers will be allowed to attend 2-3 private Paradox events before the game is even announced.
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Yeah, but it'd be weird to let them post stuff about it unless an announcement was somewhat close.
 
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alexgmcm said:
Yeah, but it'd be weird to let them post stuff about it unless an announcement was somewhat close.
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Why? Only a minority of potential EU5-players watch streamers, and an even smaller minority know about the Tinto talks. It wouldn't be strange in this era of digital decentralized marketing to allow streamers to talk about the game without doing a public announcement.
 
Traum77 said:
This is where I'm at now too. I'm trying to remember what lead up there was to Vic3 and honestly I can't remember much, except that there was a pre-announcement a little while in advance. Since we haven't seen one, I'm thinking this week simply ain't happening. Perhaps next. But I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong.
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It was announced at PDXCON, so the lead up was the lead up to the event itself.
But I can't remember if they opened the subforum and started posting teasers there and on twitter, I know they did for Imperator, and I think for CK3 too.
 
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Álvaro Núñez de Lara said:
I think the "this week" thing was a meme from the fact the youtubers went last weekned.

I am still on hopium that it will be this month due to Ludis comments in his deleted video about "having lots of eu5 content in the channel in a month". But we'll see.



Playing devils advocate (as im in the hopium train), the visit from the YouTubers could have been a first meet up to show them the studio and maybe even the game, and especially as a first meeting to organize a future event. Like videos, announcement, post announcement stuff. But that does not mean it would be imminent. They might have formed a work group to start working on announcement and post announcement several months ahead of it.
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Most of these content creators have jobs and families and lives outside of making YouTube content. Additionally, it's not uncommon that the studio foots the bill for accommodations and airfare for events like this (at least, other studios often do it.) The closed event in Stiges was almost certainly a one-off thing.

I find it beyond unlikely that paradox would pay to fly all these folks out just to arrange future discussions and form a work group. They almost certainly got a hands-on session with eu5, time with the devs, and information on announcements so that they can prepare "first look" videos. Anything less would just be an email or a MS Teams meeting.
 
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Bargey said:
Most of these content creators have jobs and families and lives outside of making YouTube content. Additionally, it's not uncommon that the studio foots the bill for accommodations and airfare for events like this (at least, other studios often do it.) The closed event in Stiges was almost certainly a one-off thing.

I find it beyond unlikely that paradox would pay to fly all these folks out just to arrange future discussions and form a work group. They almost certainly got a hands-on session with eu5, time with the devs, and information on announcements so that they can prepare "first look" videos. Anything less would just be an email or a MS Teams meeting.
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Could be either. I have seen videos from these youtubers ever since they went, and either they are very good actors, or they have not played the game in Sitges.
 
Traum77 said:
Basically PDX had a bunch of YouTubers come out to the Tinto studios last week, probably to play the game, possibly to record videos for it (though that's mostly conjecture). Also Johan has announced he's going to be too busy the next few weeks to do the Dev Diaries, so people are hoping that it's a sign of an imminent announcement, with the streamers being allowed to upload gameplay and show the game off at the same time or shortly thereafter.
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With all due respect, you don't invite those players just to playtest the game in person. This is if you want to provide a teaser for YouTube. I do think something like this may be imminent, albeit not necessarily this week lol
 
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AchedTeacher said:
With all due respect, you don't invite those players just to playtest the game in person. This is if you want to provide a teaser for YouTube. I do think something like this may be imminent, albeit not necessarily this week lol
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With all due respect, you can absolutely fly in some influencers just to playtest and prepare for future cooperation. It's not particularly expensive to fly people to a certain location (especially seeing as many EU4 steamers live in Europe), and a reasonably big company like Paradox isn't on a tight budget with regards to marketing.
 
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JacceDON said:
With all due respect, you can absolutely fly in some influencers just to playtest and prepare for future cooperation. It's not particularly expensive to fly people to a certain location (especially seeing as many EU4 steamers live in Europe), and a reasonably big company like Paradox isn't on a tight budget with regards to marketing.
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This wouldn't be budgeted under marketing in that case, since you claim it's possible no public-facing product results from it. Their bottom line can handle it, but I don't believe it's plausible they would do this just to build rapport they already have with most of them.
 
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