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delta180

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Hello, I am playing France and I want to join the USA market before I research human rights so I can start stealing all their pops, I already have all the bonuses, I took a state in Mexico to border the USA, I took free trade and Lazzie faire and made an alliance, and while at war this gets me to +169, so I am only a bit short. One of the ways for them to get better influence is by them having a treaty port in me, so if there a way to force this? Can I get them to demand a treaty port somewhere and then take the province the treaty port is in for example?
 
This is a really strange thing to want. France is much stronger than the US at the start. You'd probably have an easier time getting them into your market.

Regardless, no, you can't make the AI take a treaty port. It's not even possible to take a treaty port from a country with the same or higher rank, so you'd need to debase yourself to major power before the USA could even choose to take a treaty port.
 
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This is a really strange thing to want. France is much stronger than the US at the start. You'd probably have an easier time getting them into your market.
they have their own power block, so that is not possible, also you have to have the right laws to even be able to join a power block as a great power. the USA starts with the no migration controls law, which makes it easy to sap their market of pops.
Regardless, no, you can't make the AI take a treaty port. It's not even possible to take a treaty port from a country with the same or higher rank, so you'd need to debase yourself to major power before the USA could even choose to take a treaty port.
What if I demanded a treaty port from Mexico, sold the treaty port to the US using the exchange states interaction and then took the state the treaty port was in, would that work?
 
treaty ports aren't something the AI can understand, they rarely consider them as war goals unless it is mechanically mandated like the opium war and you cant trade them, they will convert to a split state if they change hands at any point

they also don't serve any purpose for what you are looking into, treaty ports make it so a nation's tariffs are not applied to your goods going in or coming out of their market but your tariffs still apply and have no "state" mechanics
 
they also don't serve any purpose for what you are looking into, treaty ports make it so a nation's tariffs are not applied to your goods going in or coming out of their market but your tariffs still apply and have no "state" mechanics
As I understand, the OP just wants it for flat leverage bonus.
 
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treaty ports aren't something the AI can understand, they rarely consider them as war goals unless it is mechanically mandated like the opium war and you cant trade them, they will convert to a split state if they change hands at any point

they also don't serve any purpose for what you are looking into, treaty ports make it so a nation's tariffs are not applied to your goods going in or coming out of their market but your tariffs still apply and have no "state" mechanics
they give 200 leverage to the country you have a treaty port in.