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Tinto Flavour #20 - 23rd of May 2025

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Tuesdays & Fridays in which we take a look at the content of Europa Universalis V!

Today we will be taking a look at the content of Muscovy, and its ‘successor state’, Russia, after Grand Prince Ivan III ‘the Great’ proclaimed himself ‘Sovereign of All Russia’. This is a special TF, because it’s the first one in which we show the content for one of the seven ‘Tier 1’ counties, those that we consider the most important in the 1337-1836 period, and thus, that have the most content in the game.

Let’s start taking a look at it, as usual:

The Grand Principality of Muscovy stands at a crossroads of political maneuvering, and economic troubles under the Tatar Yoke, and an ongoing power struggle among East Slavic principalities, each vying for supremacy within the fragmented Rus' territories. The Tatar invasion continues to cast a long shadow over the region and Muscovy, like many other Rus' principalities, remains a tributary to the formidable Golden Horde.

Guiding Muscovy through these complexities is Grand Prince Ivan Rurikovich, a leader keenly aware of the delicate balance required for survival under Tatar dominion. He has skillfully managed the principality's affairs through diplomatic initiatives and strategic alliances and now seeks to consolidate power and enhance Muscovy's standing within the Yoke, with aspirations to unite the Rus' land under one banner.

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As usual, consider all UI, 2D and 3D art WIP.

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This is the starting diplomatic situation of Muscovy:
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Muscovy starts in a Personal Union with a bunch of principalities, including Novgorod, which is a Republic that elects its rulers among those of other countries.

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This is the current starting state of the Tatar Yoke, with Muscovy being entitled as the ‘Grand Prince of Vladimir’ - or, in other words, the ‘tribute collector’ for the Tatars. We won’t talk about this feature today, but in the Tinto Flavour devoted to the Golden Horde.

These are some of the privileges that the Russian countries have available from the start:
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Also, this starting Legal Code Policy:
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Here you have some of the advances available for Muscovy and Russia through the ages, as usual:
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And now let’s move into the narrative content. Muscovy has 109 Dynamic Historical Events available, while there are another 73 unlockable after having formed Russia, which makes for a total of 182 available DHEs - that’s what being a ‘Tier 1’ country means, in regards to content. Many of them will unlock very different types of other content assets, as you’ll see now:

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This is an event that may trigger if Novgorod elects another ruler, as happened historically.

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If you build the Kremlin, there will be further events related to it.

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If Byzantium falls, and some other conditions are met, you might be able to marry a Greek princess, and proclaim your country as the ‘Third Rome’.

If you expand your country, you might be able to form Russia at a certain point:
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The Russian Principalities account for approximately 460 locations, so you need to conquer some more from the Golden Horde to get to the 508 required. I forced it through the console to show it to you, but one of our QA testers made a recent run, and he was able to form it around 1500, OOC.

When the Age of Reformation starts, there will be this advance available for the Russian countries:
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That unlocks:
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It’s also possible for a unique disaster to trigger, the Time of Troubles:
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Time of Troubles has many different events happening, on top of the DHEs:

If you overcome it, there’s even more late-game content, of course:

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… And much more, but that’s all for today! As today is Friday, this will be the schedule for next week:
  • Monday -> Tinto Flavour about Venice and Genoa
  • Tuesday -> Tinto Flavour about Serbia and Georgia
  • Wednesday -> Tinto Talks about the Orthodox and Miaphysite religions
  • Thursday -> Third ‘Behind the Scenes’ video!
  • Friday -> Tinto Flavour about the Roman Empire, AKA Byzantium
And also remember, you can wishlist Europa Universalis V now! Cheers!
 
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I also suggest using "Knyaz" instead of "Prince"—since you already use "Tsar" instead of "King," using "Knyaz" could add some authentic flavor.

Historically, the monarchs were titled:

Before 1547: Grand Knyaz

1547–1721: Tsar

After 1721: Emperor

So, referring to Russia as an "empire" before 1721 feels incorrect. The proper term for 1547–1721 would be the Tsardom of Russia, or simply Russia, with the Russian Empire only beginning under Peter the Great in 1721. The term "empire" is closely tied to his reign and the transformative changes he initiated.


Lastly, I believe you’re using the trident of Yaroslav the Wise instead of the appropriate coat of arms for Moscow. It should likely be either the double-headed eagle or St. George slaying the dragon.
I disagree. The Russian Empire started during the reign of Ivan the Terrible when he was proclaimed Tsar of all the Russia. Especially since Tsardom = Empire. It's just a name change, from the Slavic world with roots in the name and title of Ceaser..... just some easy solution from Peter the Great, how to quickly appear westernised..... hehe and probably also a bit poetic.... You know, if Ivan the Terrible consolidated the power and created the Russian state and then died an untimely death with shaky succession,.... Peter must have thought if he were Ceaser, I am Emperor Augustus of the Third Rome :D

Yaroslav trident is fine. Gotta be careful, eu5 are using double coat of arms..... one for the state and the other is dynastic, and since the event is about Rurikids
 
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Petrine infantry/green coats should be regulars (arguably new order regiments under first Romanovs were the first regulars, but we could go with more famous example here).
100% agree about the new order regiments and greencoats. I would also want to see the oprichnina reform affect Russia's military. Maybe it can do this organically: if you assign states to oprichnina instead of zemschina, you tilt the scale towards crown power away from the other estates, but this destroys your levy size and army tradition.
Maybe the size of your army is still enough to wage one war, but if it's all busy in, say, Livonia, then it will be easy for, say, Crimea to burn Moscow to the ground.
 
Why are the clergy called Patriarchs when Russia had only a single patriarch and only after 1589? The Russian church wasn't even autocephalous until 1448. It would be much better to rename it to generic clergy if burghers and commoners are in English as well.
Already changed to some different Russian term that doesn't mean patriarch.
 
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Forwarded to our Art team, thanks!
As far as I know, this statement is absolutely false. The current Kremlin was built in the 15th century from red brick, and was built in the image of the Sforza Castle in Milan. The white color of the Kremlin is whitewash, not paint. They started whitewashing the Kremlin later.
Accordingly, the Bolsheviks did not repaint the Kremlin red, no one simply whitewashed it.
I advise you to read the source: https://moscowwalks.ru/2016/02/24/white-red-kremlin/
 
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1. If we have already started to call estates by Russian words written in English letters, then boyars should be written as "Boyarstvo".
2. I don't know how it was 600 years ago, but in modern Russian the pronunciation is more common as, literally: "Boyare", "Dukhovenstvo", "Meschane", "Krestyane". The usage of words presented in this screenshot (except for boyars) is extremely formal and is used mainly in documents, but will also not be incorrect.
 
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1. If we have already started to call estates by Russian words written in English letters, then boyars should be written as "Boyarstvo".
2. I don't know how it was 600 years ago, but in modern Russian the pronunciation is more common as, literally: "Boyare", "Dukhovenstvo", "Meschane", "Krestyane". The usage of words presented in this screenshot (except for boyars) is extremely formal and is used mainly in documents, but will also not be incorrect.
Didn't they change it to boyarstarvo already?
 
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As far as I know, this statement is absolutely false. The current Kremlin was built in the 15th century from red brick, and was built in the image of the Sforza Castle in Milan. The white color of the Kremlin is whitewash, not paint. They started whitewashing the Kremlin later.
Accordingly, the Bolsheviks did not repaint the Kremlin red, no one simply whitewashed it.
I advise you to read the source: https://moscowwalks.ru/2016/02/24/white-red-kremlin/
It's a bit more complicated. "The Kremlin" is actually a 3 different fortresses. The first Kremlin was a wooden structure built somewhere in XI century far beyond EUV starting date. The second Kremlin was built during Ivan Kalita's reign mid XIV century. The old wooden structures were gradually rebuilt with natural white stone. Towers were rebuilt first as strategic defense points. That's why Moscow had a "White-towered Moscow" nickname. Then the third Kremlin you are talking about were built with red bricks in XV century and later whitewashed for sake of keeping bricks safe as long as possible. HRE diplomat Von Herbenstein in his Rerum Moscoviticarum Commentarii specifically depicted XV century Kremlin with red brick walls and it was the earliest picture of the third Kremlin. Later, Dutch cartographer Hessel released his Kremlenagrad in 1613 and Kremlin was already depicted with whitewashed walls. So, yeah, Bolsheviks didn't painted it red because of communism, they've just let Kremlin had its natural color. Actually it was already partially turned red during the WWI as a result of austerity measures to save a ruble or two for scarce budget by stopping to whitewash the walls.
 
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Looks great, imo.
Will there be some unique flavor for country names? It looks really strange when local estates and buildings have stylized appearance (like Dukhovenstvo and Bolshoi Theater), but the state is named "Lord Republic" or "Muscovy". Novgorod, for example, can be named as "Gospodin Velikiy Novgorod", as it really was. And, of course, no one in Moscow called himself a Muscovite.
 
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Good Tinto Talk on Muscovy.
 
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Will Europa Universalis V use similar flag mechanics to Victroria 3 ? for example what if i form Russia as Novogrod, will it have different COA in the center of Russian flag depending on what principality forms it ? same for differing flags for monarchy/theocratic/republican/revolutionary goverments ?
 
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So, I wanted to talk about something that may be slightly concerning (though it may not be if I'm misunderstanding things.)

In order to settle Siberia, Russia will have the Settle the Frontier Cabinet Action.

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This Cabinet Action takes up a Cabinet Action slot for 10 years, and after those 10 years supposedly colonizes a province of Siberia. All good with that. Problem is, from a cursory glance, Siberia has more than 100 provinces to colonize!

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This would mean that, with a single Cabinet member, it would take 1000 years to fully colonize Siberia! Assuming that a normal player begins doing so in 1500 (as that is roughly when the Age of Reformation begins and the Cabinet Action would be unlocked), they would be finished at around 2500 AD!

Now I'm not much of an expert, but surely there is something wrong with this? Even if you use two Cabinet Members, it would still take 500 years -- the whole of the game's time -- to colonize Siberia completely. With three whole Cabinent Members invested in this affair, severely limiting your Cabinet, you would barely reach 250 years, around the same time that Russia actually took to colonize Siberia (200~ years, per wikipedia, though I may be wrong; as said before, I'm no expert).

Is this working as intended? Have playtesters said anything about it? I remember a comment about how a player had struggled to recreate Russia's historical borders -- did this have anything to do with it? I don't know why, but needing to have three whole cabinet members focused on this seems odd to me (though it may well be the intention).
 
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I disagree. The Russian Empire started during the reign of Ivan the Terrible when he was proclaimed Tsar of all the Russia. Especially since Tsardom = Empire. It's just a name change, from the Slavic world with roots in the name and title of Ceaser..... just some easy solution from Peter the Great, how to quickly appear westernised..... hehe and probably also a bit poetic.... You know, if Ivan the Terrible consolidated the power and created the Russian state and then died an untimely death with shaky succession,.... Peter must have thought if he were Ceaser, I am Emperor Augustus of the Third Rome :D

Yaroslav trident is fine. Gotta be careful, eu5 are using double coat of arms..... one for the state and the other is dynastic, and since the event is about Rurikids

I see the connection between Caesar and empire, as well as the close relationship between the Tsardom and an empire in terms of power structure. However, they did not refer to themselves as an empire before 1721. The changes initiated by Peter the Great were so drastic that the change in the country’s title effectively reflects that transformation.
 
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So, I wanted to talk about something that may be slightly concerning (though it may not be if I'm misunderstanding things.)

In order to settle Siberia, Russia will have the Settle the Frontier Cabinet Action.

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This Cabinet Action takes up a Cabinet Action slot for 10 years, and after those 10 years supposedly colonizes a province of Siberia. All good with that. Problem is, from a cursory glance, Siberia has more than 100 provinces to colonize!

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This would mean that, with a single Cabinet member, it would take 1000 years to fully colonize Siberia! Assuming that a normal player begins doing so in 1500 (as that is roughly when the Age of Reformation begins and the Cabinet Action would be unlocked), they would be finished at around 2500 AD!

Now I'm not much of an expert, but surely there is something wrong with this? Even if you use two Cabinet Members, it would still take 500 years -- the whole of the game's time -- to colonize Siberia completely. With three whole Cabinent Members invested in this affair, severely limiting your Cabinet, you would barely reach 250 years, around the same time that Russia actually took to colonize Siberia (200~ years, per wikipedia, though I may be wrong; as said before, I'm no expert).

Is this working as intended? Have playtesters said anything about it? I remember a comment about how a player had struggled to recreate Russia's historical borders -- did this have anything to do with it? I don't know why, but needing to have three whole cabinet members focused on this seems odd to me (though it may well be the intention).
You know, there are also migration mechanics, and you can probably encourage them through designations for provinces and (possibly) areas.
 
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Дякую!, Gracias !
It honestly touches the heart to see Ruthenia and the deep roots of Ukrainian history remembered. For so long, parts of our past have felt overlooked or forgotten—but seeing them acknowledged like this feels like a quiet kind of healing.
Thank you for giving voice to a heritage that still lives in us.
There we go again with the Ukrainians laying unique claim to an all-encompassing eastern slavic nation, when Belarus and Russia have just as much of a claim.

Why shouldn't Kiev be able to form Russia either? Kievan Rus wouldn't look good on the map it it reaches Vladivostok while unchanged, or being an Empire.

If anything, Kievan Rus should be the RUS tag but with cosmetic changes and extra flavour.
 
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delete your account.
In every old church slavonic document you will find the "Kiev" or "Kiyev" term being used. I don't really care for the country name since it'd make sense for a Ruthenian nation to use it, but if it's controlled by Russia (or if Russia forms Kievan Rus) it should be "Kiev", while Ruthenian-formed Kievan should be "Kyivan"
 
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i wanna see Kyiv/Ruthenia-formed Russia now
Kyiv and Ruthenian principalities should either have their own tier IV formable or simply have a possibility to upgrade their rank to Empire if they meet needed conditions. Most of Russian content heavily focuses on Russia region and its history and is not that relevant to Ruthenia
 
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Kyiv and Ruthenian principalities should either have their own tier IV formable or simply have a possibility to upgrade their rank to Empire if they meet needed conditions. Most of Russian content heavily focuses on Russia region and its history and is not that relevant to Ruthenia
It makes no sense that Ruthenians wouldn't call themselves Russians but still claim the anachronistic "Kievan Rus"
 
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