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Tinto Flavour #22 - 27th of May 2025

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Mondays, Tuesdays & Fridays in which we take a look at the flavour content of Europa Universalis V!

Today, we will take a look at two Orthodox countries, in advance of tomorrow’s Tinto Talks: Serbia & Georgia.


Let’s start by taking a look at Serbia:

Serbia encompasses fertile lowlands and plains in the north, crisscrossed by the mighty Danube and Sava rivers. In the south, the landscape transforms into rugged, forested terrain and, eventually, the towering Dinaric Alps.

The realm emerged as a significant regional power under the Nemanjić dynasty. Founded by Stefan Nemanja in the 12th century, this royal lineage laid the foundations for a unified Serbian state, began to solidify its Christian Orthodox identity, and sought to establish ecclesiastical autonomy. This effort culminated in 1219 when the Serbian Orthodox Church gained independence.

Under the rule of Stefan 'the First-Crowned', Serbia’s territorial expansion accelerated, and the acquisition of coastal regions on the Adriatic Sea secured access to maritime trade and introduced Western influences. Stefan's son, King Radoslav, promoted the country's cultural development, fostering education and art, and monasteries like Studenica and Žiča flourished, housing precious religious manuscripts and frescoes.

Despite the many recent advancements, Serbia now faces external pressures and internal divisions. The Mongol invasion in the 13th century inflicted significant damage and conflict within the ruling Nemanjić family, particularly between King Stefan Uroš II Milutin Nemanjić and his brother King Stefan Dragutin Nemanjić, further weakening the state's unity. Now, the strong rule of King Stefan Uroš IV Dušan Nemanjić appears as an opportunity to change the tides of history.
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As usual, consider all UI, 2D and 3D Art as WIP.​

Starting Estate Privileges:
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Serbia Privilege Zupa.jpg

Serbia Privilege Bastina.jpg

Works of Art:
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Advances:
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Serbia Unit Hussars.jpg

Serbia Advance Gate.jpg

Serbia Advance Hajduks.jpg

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Events:
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Serbia Event Gold.jpg


Serbia Event Manasija.jpg

But not all if positive, as upon the death of Stefan IV, this disaster might also happen:
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Let’s now take a look at Georgia:

Georgian people are proud and with a long history, for their ancestors were already living at the foot of the Caucasus even before the old empires of ancient antiquity were formed. They were among the first to embrace Christianity, and they made it their flag and identity. Even after the expansion of Islam, and being surrounded by heathen nations, they held their faith and became a bulwark of Christianity in the midst of the connection between East and West.

Not even the Mongol hordes of Činggis Khān managed to fully subjugate its people, for the Georgian people rose again in defiance once the Mongol threat waned. Having been united once before under a great kingdom, the Georgian people have the potential to achieve great heights once again.

The country had its greatest splendor during the rule of King Davit IV the Builder Bagrationi and Queen Tamar the Great Bagrationi. Now, after having been divided, the Kingdom of Georgia is once again united under the authority of King Giorgi V the Brilliant Bagrationi, after His Majesty conquered western Georgia and reasserted his rule over all the Georgian territory. Even Armenia bows now to the power of Georgia.

Although still technically subject to the Īlkhānān, it in itself is an empty husk, with no one to actually lead it. Under these circumstances, how could Georgia not rise again greater than ever before?
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Georgia starts with this unique policies:
Georgia Policy Regulations of the Royal Court.jpg

Georgia Policy Eristavi.jpg

Advances:
Georgia Advance Legacy.jpg

Georgia Advance Bagrationi.jpg

Georgia Advance Golden Age.jpg

Georgia Advance Resilience.jpg

Events:
Georgia Event Mongols.jpg

Georgia Event Ganja.jpg

Georgia Event Saakadze.jpg


… And much more, but that’s all for today! Tomorrow, in Tinto Talks, we will talk about the mechanics of the Orthodox and Miaphysite religions!

And also remember, you can wishlist Europa Universalis V now! Cheers!
 
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Thank you for putting the White Angel in as a work of art, genuinely. Now, as for the Disaster shown here, once the country breaks does it look like shown on this map?
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And if so, are the successor states historical?
 
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Buladelu said:
I wonder what is the rule for which name is used for a country. Korea is Goryeo, so the name natives use. But Georgia or Japan use these names instead of Sakartvelo and Nihon?

It's not an issue of course but it's little confusing. I'd be fine with all the names coming from accepted modern English naming convention, like from Wikipedia names, but we have something more complex here.
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Goryeo is something of a dynastic title it seems, which could change to, say, Joseon.
Meanwhile, Georgia does not have dynastic dynamic name to switch between. Japan is named as Ashikaga Shogunate, which will change within the game timeframe.
 
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GeneralNoob said:
Are we ever going to get tinto talks about the Ottomans/Beyliks or Islam? I either missed them (which I doubt) or I am getting edged very hard. I would like to die in peace.
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Is this a historical GSG about the Late Medieval and Modern Age period?
 
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Buladelu said:
I wonder what is the rule for which name is used for a country. Korea is Goryeo, so the name natives use. But Georgia or Japan use these names instead of Sakartvelo and Nihon?

It's not an issue of course but it's little confusing. I'd be fine with all the names coming from accepted modern English naming convention, like from Wikipedia names, but we have something more complex here.
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I really think that common English variants ought to be used by default with perhaps an option of allowing local variants. Japanese Shogunate or Mamluke Sultanate or Ottoman Beylik are fine for example but I wouldn't want to see Dai Nippon Teikoku or Devlet-i Aliyye-i Osmaniye or whatever else by default but it could be a fun option maybe even in appropriate script so we could see Georgia written in Georgian language in Georgian script.
 
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I hope Bulgaria has a similar event to 'Gates of Konstantinoupolis,' as they too considered themselves heirs to Rome. After all, in an alternate timeline, it could just as easily have been Bulgaria or Serbia that had conquered Constantinople.
 
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GeneralNoob said:
Are we ever going to get tinto talks about the Ottomans/Beyliks or Islam? I either missed them (which I doubt) or I am getting edged very hard. I would like to die in peace.
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Sorry but no :(, the Ottomans and Islam have been deleted from the game due to the execcive amount of Byzaboos in the comment sections of the tinto talks
 
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Enku7071 said:
Oh god, I'm gonna cover the mountains with ...snows!
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In fact, the Caucasus has permanent snow and glaciers, and in my opinion it would look fantastic in game, not only in these areas, but, of course in all the mountains around the globe.

As an example, here's a satellite image of the Caucasus and its surroundings, where snow/glaciers are visible.

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Commodus said:
Goryeo is used because it's the name of this specific medieval korean realm. Pretty sure Korea will be used when shortly after united under the Joseon dynasty.
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From what I heard, I think that there's an event that changes the name of Goryeo to Joseon once they change dynasty, Korea doesn't seem to be used as name in the game
 
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Pavía said:
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As usual, consider all UI, 2D and 3D Art as WIP.​
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Can we get such birdseye view images of countries from past TFs that didn't have them yet? They are very pretty

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The Hajduk icon seems a bit distorted here. Also, does this imply that Hungarian Hajdús also exist in the game?
Are there Hajduk/Hajdú regiments? They would make good special units, imo.

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But not all if positive, as upon the death of Stefan IV, this disaster might also happen:

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Will this Disaster spawn the historical principalities that spawned from the Serbian Empire? Like Moravian Serbia, the Branković Domain, Kingdom of Prilep, Zeta etc.
 
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If Serbia ascends to the empire rank, do it usually lose it by the later crisis? Or do you often see it turning a rump empire?

Also, is the Georgia Military road modelled somehow or just by the impassable wastelands design?
 
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