Marco Polo notes that Erzerum possessed "a very rich silver mine" (Waugh's translation) in his description of Greater Armenia, so I'm surprised to see that the location's RGO is wool.
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From this image posted in the Ottoman flavor comments, we can see at least two additional locations have been added in Stefani (between Burdur and Golhisar) and Ulus (split from Bartin).
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Maybe culture and religion can be tied together for Greeks specifically, because Christian Turks seem much more rare than Bosniaks, Albanians and other South Slavic Muslims. A small amount of Orthodox Turks (or Muslim Greeks for that matter) is fine and historical, but a large amount like that starts to get unrealistic.
Copts, Syriacs and Armenians should also change culture into Arabs and Turks respectively when they convert to Islam imo, though I don't want any of these cases to happen too quickly, they remained significant up until WW1 and today in many cases.
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Keep in mind the historical circumstance; is it that Christian Turks are uncommon for some particular region tying culture to religion, or the fact that Turkish people generally didn't find themselves living under Christian states for this period?
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Of course if Turks were ruled by Christians that'd be a different story; just look at the Gagauz. But these Christian Turks seem to be the result of Greeks changing culture under Ottoman rule without converting, and that seems odd.
Yeah, that part definitely seems odd. Religion should change much more readily than culture.
Maybe the issue is that they're cores? Cores don't let unaccepted/not primary cultures "expand" and presumably dramatically accelerate assimilation (but not conversion), so I think that behavior is causing a lot of nonsense.
@Aldaron I noticed that some of the map colours of the countries in regions have been changed which is good but I think that there's still much work to do here
-The Menteşeids have been changed to look less similar to the Byzantines but now they are to similar to the Knights hospitaller, my suggestion is to change the colour of the K.H. to white as it was an important colour to both crusaders and Jerusalem(it's their map colour in Eu4 and it's in both their flags)
-The Karasids colour makes them look like a subject of the Ottomans, my suggestion is to give them the current yellow colour of the Aydinids and give the latter the previous red colour of the Germiyanids(since it's similar to the red in their flag and they look to similar to Genoa)
-Cilicia looks like a subject of the Jalayrids or the Mamluks, my suggestion is to give them the previous colour of the Candarids as it contrasts the other two's colours quite well and it's similar to Armenia's(which fits since their primary culture is Armenian as well)
-Teke and the Hamidids colours are too similar, my suggestion is to give Teke the previous colour of Alaiye
- The Sahibids, Inancids(which still need to be renamed to Inanjids), Kubadids and Ahis have the same white colour which makes them look like subjects of the Jalayrids, my suggestion here is to change the Jalayrids' colour rather than every minor country around them with a similar colour, whatever that may be(I was thinking of a dark blue similar to France since it's not used much im the middle east)
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I'm working on a detailed feedback that I've been working on it for months about borders in Anatolia with many sources which I'll publish here in a few days. Current Anatolian borders (not Persia and Caucasus part) seems as drawn from maps on Internet, which is every one of them is simplified and wrong. For example Eretna was controlling Niğde province, Kırşehir province, Aksaray, Koçhisar; Kula city was controlled by Germiyan, Balat controlled by Menteşe, all of Karasi province's locations/towns controlled by Karasi and Canik beyliks' borders are so wrong. There are way more with Byzantine, Ottomans, Candarids, Trebizond (basically every country). There are also a missing/wrong relations of vassality/indepence of some beyliks (for example Ahis and maybe Canik beyliks should be vassal of Eretnids). I'll explain them all. Here's new official province borders in game which taken from latest EU5 gameplays and Tinto Flavors/Talks:
(Inclusion of wastelands to some province borders might be wrong as new province-location map modes doesn't show them but locationwise province borders are right.)
Newly added Stefani and Ulus locations didn't make into the map but province borders are right still. There is also a requirement of changing some location and province names because some of them wrong/anachronistic which some can be dated as given in Turkish Republic from scratch. I'll also publish my work about that too.
(Inclusion of wastelands to some province borders might be wrong as new province-location map modes doesn't show them but locationwise province borders are right.)
Newly added Stefani and Ulus locations didn't make into the map but province borders are right still. There is also a requirement of changing some location and province names because some of them wrong/anachronistic which some can be dated as given in Turkish Republic from scratch. I'll also publish my work about that too.
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Two location suggestions:
1- Sart (Sardes)
It was very important during the ancient times, as it was the capital of Lydians and first coin was minted there, gold was continued to mined there up until today
Up until the 16th century Sart was a notable place (although greatly declined) after that newly founded Salihli got more importance, so location name could change to Salihli later
Sart declined further during Ottoman times so its position shouldnt be worse than in this map back in 1337 when Saruhan still holds it
www.jstor.org
Kula is at the east of Philedelphia, therefore its current location borders doesnt fit
2- Selendi (Slendos)
Due to political border changes this location might be skipped (see 5-6 post below)
1- Sart (Sardes)
It was very important during the ancient times, as it was the capital of Lydians and first coin was minted there, gold was continued to mined there up until today
Up until the 16th century Sart was a notable place (although greatly declined) after that newly founded Salihli got more importance, so location name could change to Salihli later
Sart declined further during Ottoman times so its position shouldnt be worse than in this map back in 1337 when Saruhan still holds it
Sixteenth Century Periodic Markets in Various Anatolian Sancaks: İçel, Hami̇d, Karahi̇sar-i Sahi̇b, Kütahya, Aydin, and Menteşe on JSTOR
Sixteenth Century Periodic Markets in Various Anatolian Sancaks: İçel, Hami̇d, Karahi̇sar-i Sahi̇b, Kütahya, Aydin, and Menteşe, Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient, Vol. 22, No. 1 (Jan., 1979), pp. 32-80
www.jstor.org
Kula is at the east of Philedelphia, therefore its current location borders doesnt fit
2- Selendi (Slendos)
Due to political border changes this location might be skipped (see 5-6 post below)
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Gagauzes rather originate from the Ottomanized Christian Cuman population of Dobruja, like the dynasty that ruled the Dobruja despotate.
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For Georgian part this is robably worth considering: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ersia-caucasus-feedback.1733834/post-30263931
Yeah, splitting Kula-Sart was in one of my suggestions about location dividing (actually the only one, I didn't really researched on this matter beacuse of the reason below. Another one could be Rize-Atina. Also there are some which based on historical borders/frontlines on 1st January 1337 like Balat-Kuşadası (Kuşadası was being controlled by Aydınids while Balat controlled by Menteşe though afaik Kuşadası wasn't really important at the time). But these are, as I said, based on the situation of the start date of game, so I don't really mind that for the reasons below.Two location suggestions:
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1- Sart (Sardes)
It was very important during the ancient times, as it was the capital of Lydians and first coin was minted there, gold was continued to mined there up until today
Up until the 16th century Sart was a notable place (although greatly declined) after that newly founded Salihli got more importance, so location name could change to Salihli later
View attachment 1314639
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Sart declined further during Ottoman times so its position shouldnt be worse than in this map back in 1337 when Saruhan still holds it
Sixteenth Century Periodic Markets in Various Anatolian Sancaks: İçel, Hami̇d, Karahi̇sar-i Sahi̇b, Kütahya, Aydin, and Menteşe on JSTOR
Sixteenth Century Periodic Markets in Various Anatolian Sancaks: İçel, Hami̇d, Karahi̇sar-i Sahi̇b, Kütahya, Aydin, and Menteşe, Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient, Vol. 22, No. 1 (Jan., 1979), pp. 32-80
Kula is at the west of Philedelphia, therefore its current location borders doesnt fit
2- Selendi (Slendos)
Sart to Saruhanids, Kula to Germiyan.
I think its also a matter of gameplay beacuse locations, areas, provinces changes through times, and location-province-area borders/numbers needs to stay consistent with rest of the world in the game which what is devs say all the time. Although country borders is a constant reality by the time at history (January 1 1337 for EU5). So my research mostly based on that. If a location carrying the town of its name is in the right country, I don't really mind if a few villages is in a wrong country because of location border/density setup.
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btw i recommend everyone to look to this maps I compile, these showing the nahiyes/kazas/villayes in 1520s Ottoman records (oldest most complete records in Anatolia we have) (note: some eyalets like Diyarbekir, Zülkadiriyye is missing on the big map because these maps aren't avaible in the internet)Two location suggestions:
View attachment 1314605
1- Sart (Sardes)
It was very important during the ancient times, as it was the capital of Lydians and first coin was minted there, gold was continued to mined there up until today
Up until the 16th century Sart was a notable place (although greatly declined) after that newly founded Salihli got more importance, so location name could change to Salihli later
View attachment 1314639
View attachment 1314640
Sart declined further during Ottoman times so its position shouldnt be worse than in this map back in 1337 when Saruhan still holds it
Sixteenth Century Periodic Markets in Various Anatolian Sancaks: İçel, Hami̇d, Karahi̇sar-i Sahi̇b, Kütahya, Aydin, and Menteşe on JSTOR
Sixteenth Century Periodic Markets in Various Anatolian Sancaks: İçel, Hami̇d, Karahi̇sar-i Sahi̇b, Kütahya, Aydin, and Menteşe, Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient, Vol. 22, No. 1 (Jan., 1979), pp. 32-80
Kula is at the east of Philedelphia, therefore its current location borders doesnt fit
2- Selendi (Slendos)
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Bergama was also owned by Karesids, so I hope they fix Saruhan borders it is one of the favourite countries of Johan as he said in the behind the scenes video
But after these changes borders look goofy
So I modify my proposal in above post lol
We might skip Selendi, Only adding Sart Location, and slightly extending remaining Kula to east ( as it is at northwest of Philedelphia irl), then borders wont look goofy
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Definitely. These borders + Menemen - Selendi was the rough borders of Saruhanids at the time.Bergama was also owned by Karesids, so I hope they fix Saruhan borders it is one of the favourite countries of Johan as he said in the behind the scenes video
But after these changes borders look goofy