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The Triboci really giving the 'ol heave-ho to Rome, eh?
Good work, sir!
Luckily for Rome, Carthage now watches over them.
Hope you will continue to enjoy this AAR.
Well plan was to unite Iberia first...
As the plans to attack the Arevaci was formulated, Arganthonios Culchid, the man in charge of handling the ports, bought himself the leadership. But as his first year as ruler was going to its end he died of natural causes at which point Caisaros restored his rule. In the end of that year war with the Arevaci finally started. The Arevaci could count on the support of the Cantabri, the Lusitani and the Carpetani, while the Edetani fought on the Ilergetan side.
The initial fights against the Arevaci outside Numantia quickly led to victory. However while the Arevaci caused little trouble in the war for the Ilergetans (the Edetani on the other hand had their hands full with the Arevaci forces in the south), their Carpetani and Cantabri allies caused much headache for the Ilergetans.
In the end Numantia was taken, and since the Edetani had been overrun, and the Cantabri and Carpetani moved in and taken a fair number of Ilergetan towns, a white peace was signed. Shortly after the peace, the Arevaci wanted economic help, which was denied, so after five years of peace, the Arevaci felt that they should try to resume hostilities. The war was formally initiated by the Ilergetans after Chiomara, Caisaros' sister, had been brutally murdered by the Arevaci. But this war didn't end up well for the Arevaci, outside Numantia an Arevaci army numbering 9,000 was annihilated, and after some additional fighting the Arevaci ceded Vascones, however their allies decided to remain at war.
The Cantabri were soon beaten (although with losses) and their strongholds put under siege. However the Carpetani warriors, led by Cesarus laid siege to Ilerda, and smashed the Ilergetan forces sent to raise the siege into pieces.
However the Cantabri soon was forced to pay tribute, and Arganthonios Carosid then led the Ilergetan warriors to victory over the Carpetani.
They soon paid a massive tribute to the Ilergetans, and the Lusitani, who had raided coast had been beaten and accepted a simple peace. Now the republic was at peace again, however manpower was exhausted, and worrying news came that the Carthaginians had taken control of Contestani, and were strengthening their hold over southern Iberia.
However the Ilergetes had hardly recovered from the previous wars when the Arevaci attacked. While neither side called their allies (the Arevaci allies all still had treaties with the Ilergetans, while the Edetani had hardly any military at all), it proved to be a hard war for the Ilergetes. The Arevaci leader Rhetogenes led a vast host into Lusones, the Ilergetes faced him, and while they could claim victory, it was a costly one.
Regardless Arganthonios quickly pursued the Arevaci in a hope to smash their army and crush them once and for all. It didn't end well. Arevaci warriors ambushed the Ilergetans and only a few Ilergetan warriors survived.
With no manpower and no armies, the Ilergetans tried to hire mercenaries to counter the threat, and while the Arevaci was not defeated in battle and managed to occupy many towns, an army of Gallic warriors managed to reach and seize Numantia, convincing the Arevaci to sign a white peace. Now while the Ilergetan Republic was at peace again, with only a few warriors left alive, and no manpower to replace them with, was forced to hire mercenaries mainly so that some sort of army could be had, in case war came again.
The initial fights against the Arevaci outside Numantia quickly led to victory. However while the Arevaci caused little trouble in the war for the Ilergetans (the Edetani on the other hand had their hands full with the Arevaci forces in the south), their Carpetani and Cantabri allies caused much headache for the Ilergetans.
In the end Numantia was taken, and since the Edetani had been overrun, and the Cantabri and Carpetani moved in and taken a fair number of Ilergetan towns, a white peace was signed. Shortly after the peace, the Arevaci wanted economic help, which was denied, so after five years of peace, the Arevaci felt that they should try to resume hostilities. The war was formally initiated by the Ilergetans after Chiomara, Caisaros' sister, had been brutally murdered by the Arevaci. But this war didn't end up well for the Arevaci, outside Numantia an Arevaci army numbering 9,000 was annihilated, and after some additional fighting the Arevaci ceded Vascones, however their allies decided to remain at war.
The Cantabri were soon beaten (although with losses) and their strongholds put under siege. However the Carpetani warriors, led by Cesarus laid siege to Ilerda, and smashed the Ilergetan forces sent to raise the siege into pieces.
However the Cantabri soon was forced to pay tribute, and Arganthonios Carosid then led the Ilergetan warriors to victory over the Carpetani.
They soon paid a massive tribute to the Ilergetans, and the Lusitani, who had raided coast had been beaten and accepted a simple peace. Now the republic was at peace again, however manpower was exhausted, and worrying news came that the Carthaginians had taken control of Contestani, and were strengthening their hold over southern Iberia.
However the Ilergetes had hardly recovered from the previous wars when the Arevaci attacked. While neither side called their allies (the Arevaci allies all still had treaties with the Ilergetans, while the Edetani had hardly any military at all), it proved to be a hard war for the Ilergetes. The Arevaci leader Rhetogenes led a vast host into Lusones, the Ilergetes faced him, and while they could claim victory, it was a costly one.
Regardless Arganthonios quickly pursued the Arevaci in a hope to smash their army and crush them once and for all. It didn't end well. Arevaci warriors ambushed the Ilergetans and only a few Ilergetan warriors survived.
With no manpower and no armies, the Ilergetans tried to hire mercenaries to counter the threat, and while the Arevaci was not defeated in battle and managed to occupy many towns, an army of Gallic warriors managed to reach and seize Numantia, convincing the Arevaci to sign a white peace. Now while the Ilergetan Republic was at peace again, with only a few warriors left alive, and no manpower to replace them with, was forced to hire mercenaries mainly so that some sort of army could be had, in case war came again.
Oy! It seems you finally are getting a head, long term it seems that you'll evbentually be butting heads with Carthage... :wacko:
Wow I never expected there to be so much resistance, it sure took me by surprise. I don't think time is on your side, it seems that your neighbors all also growing quite quickly. I think that you should either WP or destroy your enemy quickly as you can't afford a dragged out war.
Predictably the Arevaci attacked the Ilergetes again, and the same allies once again fought on both sides, Edetani with the Ilergetes, and Lusitani and Carpetani with the Arevaci. However the Ilergetes had hired many mercenaries and had therefore enough soldiers to risk facing the skilled Arevaci leader Rhetogenes, and Arganthonios led the Ilergetans into battle against the Arevaci and their Carpetani allies outside Contrebia.
Despite heavy losses the Ilergetans were victorious, but decided to withdraw to Ilerda, rather then repeat the mistake the last war. However the Arevaci forces had also been decimated, and they decided to move what they had against the Edetani besieging the main Arevaci stronghold in Belli. Arganthonios was given command of the mercenaries (an army numbering somewhere between 16 and 21 thousand men) and went on the offensive. As Numantia was laid under siege, the Arevaci began their siege of the heavily fortified Edetani city of Saguntum. Soon Numantia was taken by Arganthonios forces. the Arevaci soon signed peace, paying a modest tribute and surrendering their claims on Vascones, and since 17,000 Lusitanian warriors had arrived in Carpetani and prepared to move further east, the Ilergetans decided not to try to get more. Arganthonios was given a triumph thanks to this victory.
As the Ilergetan Republic slowly recovered the Lusitani, seeing an oppurtunity as the Carthaginians were losing a drawn out war against Egypt, declared war and brought in their allies, the Vaccaei, the Carpetani and the Arevaci. The Carthaginians, seeing this threat managed to negotiate a white peace with the Egyptians, allowing them to focus their attentions on the Iberians.
A year into that war Caraunos Culchid, a rival to Caisaros and the man in charge of the ports of the Republic, was found to have ordered a ship belonging to Caisaros sail in bad weather, despite strict orders not to. Caisaros was enraged by this act of the, according to most sources, incompetent Caraunos, and had him join the cargo, as the sources put it.
The war on the other hand eventually ended without any territorial changes. The first to end the war was the Vaccaei, feeling that they wouldn't get anything out of it anyway and not considering it worthwhile to continue fighting in a war they didn't want. The other Iberians though kept up strong pressure against the Carthaginians, however despite having little control of Iberia the Carthaginians managed to negotiate a white peace with the Lusitani, thus ending the war.
Soon another war erupted between the Ilergetes and the Arevaci, of the events leading up to the war, the first was an Arevaci attempt to convince Caraunios (Ambons son), who was governing Cadurci, to move against Caisaros and support the Arevaci. While Caraunios refused, Caisaros had him replaced as governor, since he showed little loyalty, and according to some sources slightly mad. The main reason that Caraunios didn't accept the Arevaci offer was according to the sources we have that he didn't expect them to be able to upheld their end of the bargain.
The war however didn't start until after Arevaci assassins had been found killing an unnamed Ilergetan general. As so many times before the Ilergetes were supported by the Edetani, while the Arevaci had support from the Carpetani and the Lusitani. This time the Arevaci army was quickly beaten, and soon Numantia fell. The Arevaci was forced to cede Belli to the Edetani, while paying a large monthly tribute to the Ilergetes. The Lusitani and Carpetani refused to end the fighting so Arganthonios led the Ilergetan warriors against Carpetani. There half of the 20,000 men strong Ilergetan army died at the hands of 13,000 Carpetani warriors. However pressure from the Edetani convinced the Carpetani to sign a white peace. The Lusitani on the other hand refused to end the war, but after a few years of formal war (no military activity had taken place according to the sources we have), the war ended. One year later Arganthonios died.
Despite heavy losses the Ilergetans were victorious, but decided to withdraw to Ilerda, rather then repeat the mistake the last war. However the Arevaci forces had also been decimated, and they decided to move what they had against the Edetani besieging the main Arevaci stronghold in Belli. Arganthonios was given command of the mercenaries (an army numbering somewhere between 16 and 21 thousand men) and went on the offensive. As Numantia was laid under siege, the Arevaci began their siege of the heavily fortified Edetani city of Saguntum. Soon Numantia was taken by Arganthonios forces. the Arevaci soon signed peace, paying a modest tribute and surrendering their claims on Vascones, and since 17,000 Lusitanian warriors had arrived in Carpetani and prepared to move further east, the Ilergetans decided not to try to get more. Arganthonios was given a triumph thanks to this victory.
As the Ilergetan Republic slowly recovered the Lusitani, seeing an oppurtunity as the Carthaginians were losing a drawn out war against Egypt, declared war and brought in their allies, the Vaccaei, the Carpetani and the Arevaci. The Carthaginians, seeing this threat managed to negotiate a white peace with the Egyptians, allowing them to focus their attentions on the Iberians.
A year into that war Caraunos Culchid, a rival to Caisaros and the man in charge of the ports of the Republic, was found to have ordered a ship belonging to Caisaros sail in bad weather, despite strict orders not to. Caisaros was enraged by this act of the, according to most sources, incompetent Caraunos, and had him join the cargo, as the sources put it.
The war on the other hand eventually ended without any territorial changes. The first to end the war was the Vaccaei, feeling that they wouldn't get anything out of it anyway and not considering it worthwhile to continue fighting in a war they didn't want. The other Iberians though kept up strong pressure against the Carthaginians, however despite having little control of Iberia the Carthaginians managed to negotiate a white peace with the Lusitani, thus ending the war.
Soon another war erupted between the Ilergetes and the Arevaci, of the events leading up to the war, the first was an Arevaci attempt to convince Caraunios (Ambons son), who was governing Cadurci, to move against Caisaros and support the Arevaci. While Caraunios refused, Caisaros had him replaced as governor, since he showed little loyalty, and according to some sources slightly mad. The main reason that Caraunios didn't accept the Arevaci offer was according to the sources we have that he didn't expect them to be able to upheld their end of the bargain.
The war however didn't start until after Arevaci assassins had been found killing an unnamed Ilergetan general. As so many times before the Ilergetes were supported by the Edetani, while the Arevaci had support from the Carpetani and the Lusitani. This time the Arevaci army was quickly beaten, and soon Numantia fell. The Arevaci was forced to cede Belli to the Edetani, while paying a large monthly tribute to the Ilergetes. The Lusitani and Carpetani refused to end the fighting so Arganthonios led the Ilergetan warriors against Carpetani. There half of the 20,000 men strong Ilergetan army died at the hands of 13,000 Carpetani warriors. However pressure from the Edetani convinced the Carpetani to sign a white peace. The Lusitani on the other hand refused to end the war, but after a few years of formal war (no military activity had taken place according to the sources we have), the war ended. One year later Arganthonios died.
You are still going to win the war, one must offer individuals for common good.
Well as you can see the Arevaci are finally beaten, they still exist, but they shouldn't be able to cause much more trouble, I hope.
Oy! It seems you finally are getting a head, long term it seems that you'll evbentually be butting heads with Carthage... :wacko:
The worst thing is that Carthage at the moment is allied with the Bituriges (in addition to their standard Numidian allies, and what remains of Rome).
Also took me by surprise, luckily the Vaccaei haven't been involved, that would have been too much for me to handle.
A great update, but this^^^brought me back down to earth... Perhaps an alliance with the Ptolomies?
Ouch, it is always hard letting a war go with a White Peace. It kinda means you just wasted a whole bunch of your resources for nothing. I guess...at least you didn't lose
A great update, but this^^^brought me back down to earth... Perhaps an alliance with the Ptolomies?
Have extremely poor relations with them. But I could attack the Aulerci or some other country only allied with the Bituriges. Due to that alliance the Bituriges seems to be my next target, but if I prepare properly I could probably break them. And when they are broken, I could resume the unification of Iberia. Stupid Bituriges for accepting to pay tribute to Carthage (resulting in their current alliance) when crushing the Romans in Cisalpine Gaul.
Ouch, it is always hard letting a war go with a White Peace. It kinda means you just wasted a whole bunch of your resources for nothing. I guess...at least you didn't lose
What white peace are you referring to? The only ones I did was with the Carpetani and Lusitani, neither which was any target. The Arevaci have been reduced to one province and pay me tribute.
Haha, mm. I guess my only excuse is that I can't remember all the tribe name, as I thought you white peaced Cantabri
oCantabri...Carpetani, same thing
That's too bad, but hey! If you can reunite Iberia you could probably try to do something funny against Carthage and I think it just might work...
Could you change the colour of the Bituriges as it is increasingly difficult to tell where their territory ends and the Atlantic and Adriatic begin. Aesthetics demands that you attack them.
You could invade Rome, reclaim the city and declare yourself the Roman Republic and the recent loss of power as a "misunderstanding". You were the ones who first humbled Rome, you should have their glory not the Bituriges, Treboci or Epirots.
You could invade Rome, reclaim the city and declare yourself the Roman Republic and the recent loss of power as a "misunderstanding". You were the ones who first humbled Rome, you should have their glory not the Bituriges, Treboci or Epirots.
Haha, mm. I guess my only excuse is that I can't remember all the tribe name, as I thought you white peaced Cantabri
Cantabri...Carpetani, same thing
Agree that their names are somewhat similar. But still, one should be able to tell the difference on is in the northern coast, the other in the middle of Iberia
.That's too bad, but hey! If you can reunite Iberia you could probably try to do something funny against Carthage and I think it just might work...
Will soon make another attempt at expanding in Iberia, need to come up with some sort of plan first
Bituriges (and Scordisci as I noticed they also were a bit to close to the colour of the sea) colours were altered. Now I hope it is easier to distinguish them from the sea, didn't really notice it until you mentioned it
o. About invading Rome, I would have to build some sort of navy first, those things do cost, though at the moment I think I should be able to handle it, the economy is strong, need to get rid of all my mercenaries though.Rome should change their name.
And you better conquer more!
Agree, a Rome without the city of Rome?
Caisaros spent the remainder of his reign strengthening the Ilergetan economy, partly by constructing mines. However many called for war against the Bituriges, not to mention doing something about the Aquitani, that while formally allied with the Ilergetes had not joined any war, instead paying tribute to the Arevaci and now the Bituriges. Caros Culchid managed to claim power, and he quickly acted to do something about the situation.
The alliance with the Aquitani was first dissolved, and later war was declared against them. The Bituriges decided to protect the Aquitani. The war proved less troublesome then some had feared, only the Aquitani faced the Ilergetes with a sizeable army, that was swiftly defeated, the Bituriges had their focus on wars in the east, and their local military proved unable to seriously threaten the Ilergetan advance, though they did manage to invade Ruteni, and shortly controlled the province. Less then a year after the war had begun Caros died, the elderly Caisaros returned to power only to die of old age a few months later, making Caraunios Lukid the new leader of the Republic. Caraunios ruled for some years, and saw that the war would clearly be won. However soon Cesarus Auarosid was proclaimed ruler.
Cesarus had led the Gallic Warriors that the Ilergetan Republic employed, and while not having won many victories (he did suffer many losses against Aquitani and Biturigian forces in the fighting in Ruteni), he was experienced and loved by his troops. A few months after he had come to power peace was signed with the Bituriges. They ceded Santones, Lemovices and Arverni and agreed to pay a monthly tribute, while the Aquitani was conquered completely. The Bituriges had considerable manpower that they were unable to use due to a lack of resources, so in the end they had lost most of what they had gained from the Roman collapse.
Cesarus then continued Caisaros policies of economic growth, and the following decade was a peaceful one. A Carthaginian attempt to invade Carpetani caused some concern, but the Carpetani and their allies the Lusitani, Vaccaei and Arevaci, defeated the Carthaginians, forcing them to agree to a white peace. By that time the Ilergetan manpower had replenished enough that there was thoughts on reforming the army by disbanding the mercenaries that made up nearly half the army and replace them with local warriors.
The alliance with the Aquitani was first dissolved, and later war was declared against them. The Bituriges decided to protect the Aquitani. The war proved less troublesome then some had feared, only the Aquitani faced the Ilergetes with a sizeable army, that was swiftly defeated, the Bituriges had their focus on wars in the east, and their local military proved unable to seriously threaten the Ilergetan advance, though they did manage to invade Ruteni, and shortly controlled the province. Less then a year after the war had begun Caros died, the elderly Caisaros returned to power only to die of old age a few months later, making Caraunios Lukid the new leader of the Republic. Caraunios ruled for some years, and saw that the war would clearly be won. However soon Cesarus Auarosid was proclaimed ruler.
Cesarus had led the Gallic Warriors that the Ilergetan Republic employed, and while not having won many victories (he did suffer many losses against Aquitani and Biturigian forces in the fighting in Ruteni), he was experienced and loved by his troops. A few months after he had come to power peace was signed with the Bituriges. They ceded Santones, Lemovices and Arverni and agreed to pay a monthly tribute, while the Aquitani was conquered completely. The Bituriges had considerable manpower that they were unable to use due to a lack of resources, so in the end they had lost most of what they had gained from the Roman collapse.
Cesarus then continued Caisaros policies of economic growth, and the following decade was a peaceful one. A Carthaginian attempt to invade Carpetani caused some concern, but the Carpetani and their allies the Lusitani, Vaccaei and Arevaci, defeated the Carthaginians, forcing them to agree to a white peace. By that time the Ilergetan manpower had replenished enough that there was thoughts on reforming the army by disbanding the mercenaries that made up nearly half the army and replace them with local warriors.
Finish Iberia before Carthage gains too much from there and has a strong power base there set up.
*Sigh* Rome...o
Anyways, that was a very fruitful war, any more of those and you will do a world conquer in no time. Your hardest opponent will be carthage no don't and so that is why you sould gain as much territory as possible. Those darned carthigians will want territory as much as you do.
oAnyways, that was a very fruitful war, any more of those and you will do a world conquer in no time. Your hardest opponent will be carthage no don't and so that is why you sould gain as much territory as possible. Those darned carthigians will want territory as much as you do.
Looks great, i especially like the work you put up in 'modding'
I look forward to seeing more!
I look forward to seeing more!