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UNVOTE AOK, VOTE MR. G

Indeed, AOK isn't the best lynch. Better then me ofcourse. But that goes without saying ;)
 
Unvote AoK
Vote HJ Tulp


I do not want to die.
 
Okay, here we go, starting with my vote

VOTE Byakhiam

His vote for Euro was when it looked like Euro was going to be overwhelmingly bandwagoned (Byak indeed said so), and I think that vote was a move to save his own skin. His general bandwagoneering is extremely suspicious. The other suspect I would look at today is Steed. We have absolutely nothing on him. I would lynch either Byak or Steed.



Thoughts on unlikely suspects:

Heim, my guy from yesterday is not a good lynch as I am satisfied with what I have on him. He has a huge amount of votes from a varied group of players. He is no longer my top man as a result of not having many acceptable pack options that fit with decent suspects.
Teep also has a very large number of votes, thus making him not a good lynch at this point. He also made a critical vote against Euro
Punkbob cast a critical vote against Euro to get the bandwagon against him rolling early. He is thus not a good suspect.
Lemeard cast a vote for Euro early before switching later. It could have been a showcase but it at least makes him not a good lynch for now, although the total lack of votes against him is worrying.

Further thoughts on other, middle of the road suspects:

Mr. G and HJ are both decent suspects, but we have much material on them both. Mr G is likely an innocent in my opinion. I am not sure about HJ. Euro did vote for HJ, but that could be a smokescreen. I would not lynch either today.

Sbr and Jonti are both worrying. However, I agree with what sbr said talking about me. Sbr and Jonti are both likely scanning targets and are also assets to us if they are villagers. However, obviously both will have to be watched and examined closely as the game goes on.

Edit: Regarding HDK: He is another middle of the road suspect. We have little on him.

What say you village about my suspects Byak and Steed? What about HDK? Do you agree with my unlikely suspects, or am I ignoring possible evidence of guilt about one or more of them?
 
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Okay, here we go, starting with my vote

VOTE Byakhiam

His vote for Euro was when it looked like Euro was going to be overwhelmingly bandwagoned (Byak indeed said so), and I think that vote was a move to save his own skin. His general bandwagoneering is extremely suspicious. The other suspect I would look at today is Steed. We have absolutely nothing on him. I would lynch either Byak or Steed.


You find me suspicious because you have nothing on me??

Why thanks for the support. I actually stuck up for you too.
If that makes me evil then im guilty as charged..:(
 
Vote Count
1 hour left

HJ Tulp: 4 Jonti, hdk, sbr, Mr. G,

Mr. G: 3 Teep, Byak, HJ,

Byakhiam: 2 Steed, AOK,

AOK. 11: 1 Heim,

Heimdall: 1 pb,

sbr: 1 pb,
 
You find me suspicious because you have nothing on me??

Why thanks for the support. I actually stuck up for you too.
If that makes me evil then im guilty as charged..:(

I think that the lack of votes against you means you are more likely a wolf than other players. You also started the bandwagon against Teep when Euro was the vote leader. That could have been a move to try and help Euro. All we can do at this point is pick the most likely suspects.

We have very little at this point. Its the best I can do at this point in the game.

Edit: One hour left. Is anybody here to talk this over?
 
I think that the lack of votes against you means you are more likely a wolf than other players. You also started the bandwagon against Teep when Euro was the vote leader. That could have been a move to try and help Euro. All we can do at this point is pick the most likely suspects.

We have very little at this point. Its the best I can do at this point in the game.

Ok, i will go with that.. I didnt start any bandwagon to save Euro.
I wasnt the one who started the bandwagon against Humancalculator either. *(Looks at AOK)*
If i was a wolf you would be dead by now!!! FACT:eek:o:p
 
Damnit people, anybody out there? HJ nor G are as good a suspect as Byak is at this point.

We cannot waste lynches. We need to get the best suspects we can based on the evidence. If you disagree, then tell me why at least. :mad:
 
Okay, here we go, starting with my vote

VOTE Byakhiam

His vote for Euro was when it looked like Euro was going to be overwhelmingly bandwagoned (Byak indeed said so), and I think that vote was a move to save his own skin. His general bandwagoneering is extremely suspicious. The other suspect I would look at today is Steed. We have absolutely nothing on him. I would lynch either Byak or Steed.

Well if Byakhiam was Euro's pack mate he could've easily switched to someone else. It seems very wreckless to vote a pack mate in that situation. Though I agree he has been very keen on the bandwagon, I don't regard him as the best suspect.

Further thoughts on other, middle of the road suspects:

What say you village about my suspects Byak and Steed? What about HDK? Do you agree with my unlikely suspects, or am I ignoring possible evidence of guilt about one or more of them?

Steed is a better option than Byakhiam, in my opinion, just for the facts you stated. However, if we go after someone because we know too little about him, I think we risk lynching a quiet villager. As long as the seer is out there he can scan the unknowns.

Hdk appears to be working with the village on this one.

But sure, let's see what happens....

Unvote AOK

Vote Steed
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Damnit people, anybody out there? HJ nor G are as good a suspect as Byak is at this point.

We cannot waste lynches. We need to get the best suspects we can based on the evidence. If you disagree, then tell me why at least. :mad:

HJ Tulp is not a good lynch? He freckin tried to save a wolf! You accuse me of being a wolf the second day for writing a comment (which incidentally proved to be correct) and someone who tries to save Euro is a bad lynch?
 
Damnit people, anybody out there? HJ nor G are as good a suspect as Byak is at this point.

We cannot waste lynches. We need to get the best suspects we can based on the evidence. If you disagree, then tell me why at least. :mad:

I must say G is not on my list as any suspect. Hj well maybe.

When you sugested Humancaculator, he was straight onto your vote.. But why? A chance to save a packmate?? Possibility.
 
Steed is a better option than Byakhiam, in my opinion, just for the facts you stated. However, if we go after someone because we know too little about him, I think we risk lynching a quiet villager. As long as the seer is out there he can scan the unknowns.

Hdk appears to be working with the village on this one.

But sure, let's see what happens....

Unvote AOK

Vote Steed
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HJ Tulp is not a good lynch? He freckin tried to save a wolf! You accuse me of being a wolf the second day for writing a comment (which incidentally proved to be correct) and someone who tries to save Euro is a bad lynch?

I see somebody has taken the easy option and jumps on anothers thought. Because nobody has voted me yet, im guilty? Well thats a good one on me.
Why not use your own thoughts and come up with something and not flit around jumping on other votes.:mad:
 
I see somebody has taken the easy option and jumps on anothers thought. Because nobody has voted me yet, im guilty? Well thats a good one on me.
Why not use your own thoughts and come up with something and not flit around jumping on other votes.:mad:

Relax. I still regard HJ Tulp as a way better suspect than you at this moment, but as he already has a few votes and you have none, I thought I'd see what happens...
 
Relax. I still regard HJ Tulp as a way better suspect than you at this moment, but as he already has a few votes and you have none, I thought I'd see what happens...

Its ok.. I just tested your reaction to me bitching.... It tells me alot.;)
 
I must say G is not on my list as any suspect. Hj well maybe.

When you sugested Humancaculator, he was straight onto your vote.. But why? A chance to save a packmate?? Possibility.

I went after Human as it was a way to get rid of an unknown. My method in the early days is simple. I try to force votes on various suspects, and then try to eliminate an unknown. Lynching people on whom we have valuable information is not as good as lynching an unknown. When you know nothing everyone is just as likely to be a wolf, and the only way to be able to make better choices is to obtain more information. I do that by getting votes.

Its all about a process of elimination. You eliminate suspects through vote analysis and lynching. It is not good strategy to lynch someone that you have a good chance of eliminating later through the use of the information gained through vote analysis.

Heim: You are mistaken. It was not reckless for Byak to vote Euro at that point if he was a wolf. It was smart. Byak saw a bandwagon forming against a packmate, believed that it would turn out like many first days as a runaway, unstoppable bandwagon, and jumped on early. He did it as he knew people like you would be fooled if Euro died. I would have done the same thing. He is very skilled, ruthless, and indeed capable of such an act. I am by no means sure he is a wolf, but I am certainly sure he is more likely a wolf than HJ and G. The quickest way to destroy a wolfpack is to get caught on the wrong side of a first day bandwagon where a wolf is killed. Good wolves will take the chance of sacrificing a packmate in order to prevent total pack destruction.

Anyway, thats my best theory. I will hold my vote and hope for the best.
 
Heim: You are mistaken. It was not reckless for Byak to vote Euro at that point if he was a wolf. It was smart. Byak saw a bandwagon forming against a packmate, believed that it would turn out like many first days as a runaway, unstoppable bandwagon, and jumped on early. He did it as he knew people like you would be fooled if Euro died. I would have done the same thing. He is very skilled, ruthless, and indeed capable of such an act. I am by no means sure he is a wolf, but I am certainly sure he is more likely a wolf than HJ and G. The quickest way to destroy a wolfpack is to get caught on the wrong side of a first day bandwagon where a wolf is killed. Good wolves will take the chance of sacrificing a packmate in order to prevent total pack destruction.

Anyway, thats my best theory. I will hold my vote and hope for the best.

So why did he not change his vote later on then? It doesn't make any sense. I could understand voting a pack mate to fool fallibles like myself, but not switching away later on? -That is really "weird" in my opinion...

If I have to choose between someone who's voted a wolf and someone who's not, I will go for the latter.
 
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So why did he not change his vote later on then? It doesn't make any sense. I could understand voting a pack mate to fool fallibles like myself, but not switching away later on? -That is really "weird" in my opinion...

Was he around during the deadline? Let me check. If he was, then you have a point, but I do not remember him around during the vote switches.

Edit: I just checked. He did not post during the time of the vote switches, where there was a chance to save Euro. I do not think he saw his chance and thus could not have taken it. He has been relatively inactive during this game.

If I have to choose between someone who's voted a wolf and someone who's not, I will go for the latter.

Then you will be easy pickings for any decent wolfpack.
 
Was he around during the deadline? Let me check. If he was, then you have a point, but I do not remember him around during the vote switches.

Edit: I just checked. He did not post during the time of the vote switches, where there was a chance to save Euro. I do not think he saw his chance and thus could not have taken it. He has been relatively inactive during this game.

So he'd just leave, knowing that he currently has his vote on a pack mate? :wacko:
Though I really wish Byakhiam himself was around to defend himself.

Then you will be easy pickings for any decent wolfpack.

Well final votes are the most important thing to judge someone by, wouldn't you agree?