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Lemeard Vote Count

Lemeard - Everyone but Lemeard.

EUROO7 - Lemeard.

Day Five and Night Five

On today's fight, Lemeard was killed and that angered some people who had put money on him.

Nobody was killed at night.

You lynched Lemeard the wolf.

Sorry for being late.
 
I bet that Hax is one of the wolfs, he is a newbie and therefore likely to forget a hunt. Or what do you think?
 
I think the village is stoopid, AMIRIGHT?
 
I bet that Hax is one of the wolfs, he is a newbie and therefore likely to forget a hunt. Or what do you think?

I don't know what you think, but I take back my suggestion from yesterday that we have cunning wolves :p

Forgetting to hunt... how brilliant...

But we have two wolves left, right? So even if Hax is one of them, there is also a second wolf, and I even have trouble imagining that Lem even wouldn't send in a hunt, which would be executed even if he should die (because other packmates remain).

This is simple Lite without any GA's or doctors or whatever?
 
No, this is complex Lite with Euros Lemeards and jontis.
 
OMG! We are all domed!
Domed.
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Great...another one of those games where the two sides compete to see who can lose worse. While the no-hunt won't cost the wolves a whole day, it was nonetheless bad play.

All conventional evidence is currently pointing at Hax and Teep as the remaining wolves, though I'll go through everything again before I vote.
 
Great...another one of those games where the two sides compete to see who can lose worse. While the no-hunt won't cost the wolves a whole day, it was nonetheless bad play.

All conventional evidence is currently pointing at Hax and Teep as the remaining wolves, though I'll go through everything again before I vote.

I am torn between mocking the wolves and worrying about the village.

However, I think we are looking at inexperienced wolves here. It is unlikely that experienced ones would deliberately skip the hunt like that. However, I am not keen on hanging Hax on his first game.

Best bet is for people who didn't post in the thread today (i.e. Sunday) and are inexperienced.

As a placeholder, Vote Teep, since as TT says the evidence points his way and he is inactive to boot. Hax is too new to hang on a hunch.
 
I am torn between mocking the wolves and worrying about the village.

However, I think we are looking at inexperienced wolves here. It is unlikely that experienced ones would deliberately skip the hunt like that.

The no hunt all but clears you in my eyes. Until now, you were still a good suspect. If this was a ploy to distract attention from you, congrats on yet another deserved victory. However, I don't think that's the case. I would never want to win in such an ugly fashion (when I had an alternative path to victory, at least), and I would expect the same from you. The hunt for punkbob, the failure to save Nautilu on the first day, and the no hunt all suggest something other than a veteran. Also, I believe you when you say that you wouldn't want to lynch Hax in his first game; you have enough victories under your belt that you shouldn't need to play cutthroat.

However, Hax + Teep or even maybe Hax + joeb (a bit of a stretch, but possible) just seems too easy a call now. Even without the no hunt, all signs point to them.
 
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My analysis:


Likely cleared


Mr.G - He and Nautilu tried to lynch each other on the first day, each being the third on the other's bandwagon. I'm surprised he hasn't been hunted yet; he should have been hunt #1 every night. If he's a wolf, he took a totally unnecessary risk. But better to go after the ones most likely to be the right choices than to go after the ones you're most afraid of being the wrong choices.

Rysz (formerly Tulp) - The Euro/Split fiasco reminded me of something that I had considered at the time, but apparently not hard enough: Why would two players out themselves as co-conspirators and risk exposure well before the final day? It works the same way with Rysz. As a wolf, he would have to have been suicidal to defend Lemmy by countering Euro's claim (knowing as any wolf would that Euro wasn't one of them). As with Mr.G, I'd feel like an idiot for letting him off the hook, but odds are really good he ain't anywhere near that hook.

Jonti (formerly sbr) - Too experienced and competent a player to commit the number of errors the wolves have committed this game. I can't see him trying to win by playing stupid. He can win regularly by just being himself.

Byak - Voted early for Nautilu and never pulled his vote off, despite being active shortly before the first deadline. With the seer dead, it wouldn't have been impossible for him to do such a thing (though I haven't known him to be so cruel to his packmates), but on the first friggin' day, I just don't see him doing this. It's always risky pulling a vote off of an ally late, but I think he would have done it in this case. In addition, Lemmy (and Teep) had their votes on him during the third day four-way and kept them there. No reason for them to do that to an ally with two other goodies in the running, especially with the seer still alive - unless maybe, maybe punkbob exposed himself, but that requires a massive leap of faith in every other consideration, as it would have been an extremely risky and cutthroat veteran move from the whole pack.

Unlikely Wolves

joeb (formerly jens) - Jens and Lemmy voted each other on the first day, Lemmy following Euro onto jens, and jens following me onto Lemmy. Too much of a stretch for the first day.


Cleared only to myself:

Me - I haven't done anything that should clear me, but I know what I know, and I ain't a wolf. I'd like to think that everything I said about jonti above could be applied to me. I wouldn't adopt this kind of a strategy. I take the game too seriously and I'm just too full of myself to intentionally play a bad game.


Best suspects

Hax - Seems cruel, but the no-hunt, combined with full pack possibilities and a very opportunistic newbie vote on Lemmy two rounds ago (vote #7 when Euro had only four) says a lot.

Teep - Also has full pack possibilities, voted Euro early two rounds ago and didn't budge. Didn't do anything to defend Nautilu, but wasn't online for hours prior to the deadline, so he might not have recognized the danger. However, unlike half the people still alive, he never had his vote on either Nautilu or Lemmy in that round. Has done nothing but bandwagon goodies since.
 
Nice analysis TT.

I agree with you that Hax and Teep are the best suspects, but you aren't completely cleared for me as well, because you are indeed experienced and too 'proud' to let yourself be caught doing something like missing a hunt, but I also notice you hardly posted yesterday (in fact, other than your vote directly after the update, you only posted 2 game and 1 off-game postings).

I think you might just not have made it to a computer in time, and saw this train-wreck, and you would certainly have the cunning to use it in such a way to 'let it clear yourself'.

Because today you refer to the hunt-missing just a bit too much for my liking, emphasising how various players are not too willing to lower themselves enough to do something like that just to make them less suspect.

I agree on teep and hax, being inexperienced and such, are better candidates than you are, but there does not remain much else. Thankfully we still ahve a couple of nights, so you are safe for the moment.

Vote Teep
 
I really hope the rest of your WW games didn't look like this. The amount (or lack, actually) of discussion, role-playing or even smalltalk is shocking...

Hax is new, teep is not so experienced either, but that veterans like jonti, byak, mr.g and joeb are as quiet as this doesn't bode well...

Ok, I know tonight is not crucial to the survival of the village, but we need talk and arguments and stuff like that to be able to find wolves. Not only the voting, but also what other people say (or do not say) is important information. We need that information when it comes to be important, when we come to the end where not finding the wolf could be the loss of the village.
 
I'll tell you a little secret: the favored gladiators always win.


That's why they are called favored ;)
 
I really hope the rest of your WW games didn't look like this. The amount (or lack, actually) of discussion, role-playing or even smalltalk is shocking...

Hax is new, teep is not so experienced either, but that veterans like jonti, byak, mr.g and joeb are as quiet as this doesn't bode well...

Ok, I know tonight is not crucial to the survival of the village, but we need talk and arguments and stuff like that to be able to find wolves. Not only the voting, but also what other people say (or do not say) is important information. We need that information when it comes to be important, when we come to the end where not finding the wolf could be the loss of the village.

It's a bank holiday in the UK, and so my time online is rather limited, since I have other stuff to be doing.
 
This is my first game:D

VOTE Teep

I thought this game had only gladiators but wolfes too?:confused::)

Well, normally the lite game consists of villagers, whom 4 are really wolves, and 1 is secretly the seer. The other 12 are 'real' villagers.

However, usually each game is themed somehow, and the normal role names get changed, however during the game usually terms like wolf, seer and villager are still used, but the update usually remembers players of the setting ;)

If you look at post 1, you can see that normal gladiaters are villagers, and the favoured gladiators are the wolves.

EDIT: Interesting how your post actually tends to clear you, as you are clearly not aware there are 'wolves', however it could be that the GM used the word '(favoured) gladiator' instead of wolf/villager in the message to you wherein he tells you your role. With me he did use the non-themed word, so I assume he would with you as well.
 
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I still believe that Hax is a wolf based on the fact that nobody was hunted last night and that he is a newbie capable of doing such a thing.

Vote Hax