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action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME326078A" #yes to the deal
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 370 value = 1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 370 value = -2 } #Veneto
command = { type = galleys which = -2 value = 10 }
}
I doubt this deal can ever be worth it.

Assuming an original base manpower of 6 and Venice having a CC and a population larger than 200k, the manpower drawn before the event would be 9 and 10.5 after it. The ability to recruit 1,500 extra men and 10 galleys worth 80 ducats...

Whereas the tax drawn from Veneto with an original base tax value of 15, a bailiff and +3 stab would be 19.2 before the event and 16.8 after it. 2.4 ducats lost every month or approximately 7,000 ducats by the end of the game...

Good events though. There are some typos, like 'where' instead of 'were'.

And 'Giustizia Vecia' should either be Giustizia Vecchia (Italian) or Giustissia Vecia (Venetian).
 
I doubt this deal can ever be worth it.

Assuming an original base manpower of 6 and Venice having a CC and a population larger than 200k, the manpower drawn before the event would be 9 and 10.5 after it. The ability to recruit 1,500 extra men and 10 galleys worth 80 ducats...

Whereas the tax drawn from Veneto with an original base tax value of 15, a bailiff and +3 stab would be 19.2 before the event and 16.8 after it. 2.4 ducats lost every month or approximately 7,000 ducats by the end of the game...

Good events though. There are some typos, like 'where' instead of 'were'.

And 'Giustizia Vecia' should either be Giustizia Vecchia (Italian) or Giustissia Vecia (Venetian).

the difficulty in the event is that the venetian senate took 30% of the Tax for the years ONLY when they asked for recruits, it was not a continous yearly thing.

thanks on typo's

Giustizia is wrong , its too late

1300 AD and to time of event it was Justitia

17th century it was Giustixia

18th century it was Giustizia

19th century and today Giustisia ( never seen 2 ss)

In Nel corso del 1751 una Parte approvata dal Senato istituì la Conferenza sora le Arti.

Il nuovo organo si componeva di un membro ciascuno appartenente alle seguenti magistrature:

v Cinque Savi a la Marcanzia,

v Deputadi al Comercio,

v Provedadori a la Giustizia Vecia,

v Provedadori in Zecha,

v Provedadori de Comun.


1751 it was a G

source, venetian - english dictionary plus
http://www.veneziamuseo.it/REPUBBLICA/mar_sen_s_projusvec.htm

i will correct it once we decide.

What do you want changed

.........................................

On the Barnbanotti event , I would like to follow up with in action A 9historical) with the historic path which led to the leader of the Barbanotti ( Giorgio Pisani ) to be elected in the senate, he then attempted to amend certain rules in his favour and was executed by strangulation along with fellow conspirator
The plans of Angelo Querini, Giorgio Pisani, and Carlo Contarini, who in the 18th century called themselves reformers, did not go beyond those of the noble class that for three centuries had controlled the government and that existed to uphold ancestral tradition or to satisfy personal ambition.


action B ..( not historical) I was thinking of a chance that Venice would become a duchy (or kingdom) based along the european monarchies

looking forward to your ideas, and then I will amend
 
I doubt this deal can ever be worth it.

Assuming an original base manpower of 6 and Venice having a CC and a population larger than 200k, the manpower drawn before the event would be 9 and 10.5 after it. The ability to recruit 1,500 extra men and 10 galleys worth 80 ducats...

Whereas the tax drawn from Veneto with an original base tax value of 15, a bailiff and +3 stab would be 19.2 before the event and 16.8 after it. 2.4 ducats lost every month or approximately 7,000 ducats by the end of the game...

Good events though. There are some typos, like 'where' instead of 'were'.

And 'Giustizia Vecia' should either be Giustizia Vecchia (Italian) or Giustissia Vecia (Venetian).

If the permanent -2 to tax is too much, perhaps the event could remove the "Tax Collector" building? Costs less ducats to rebuild and would also reflect the deal of "more soldiers, less taxes".
 
If the permanent -2 to tax is too much, perhaps the event could remove the "Tax Collector" building? Costs less ducats to rebuild and would also reflect the deal of "more soldiers, less taxes".


we need to realise that VEN was in many wars between 1582 - 1773 , some very long ones, eg Candia war 22 years, Morean war 11 years are just 2 that come to mind.

maybe a -2 is too much and it should be a -1 .................but ........ we should have this event below as the contract finished after Jacopo Nani Tunisian campaign.

#(1773) End of Contract - historical
event = {
id = 3260??
trigger = {
event = 326078
}
random = no
country = VEN
name = "EVENTNAME3260??" #End of contract
desc = "EVENTHIST3260???"
#-#In 1773, Venice decided to terminate its manpower contract with the Venetian guilds.

date = { month = february year = 1773 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME326078A" #close the contract
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 370 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 370 value = 2 } #Veneto
}
}

To be triggered only through action A in event 326078
 
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continuation of event

#(1582-1773) Venetian Guilds
event = {
id = 326078
trigger = {
atwar = yes
}
random = no
country = VEN
name = "EVENTNAME326078" #Venetian Guilds
desc = "EVENTHIST326078"
#-#In 1219, Venice had its first guild (Justitia Vecia), the guild of tailors, this was followed by 52 more guilds in the next decade. The guilds where run by non-noble families responsible for issuing works in a chosen profession in the Veneto. By 1582, there where 163 Guild masters in the Veneto and Venice. In that same year, the Venetian senate being short of manpower for its galley fleet proposed a contract to the guild masters to supply men as per request by the state for a reduction of 30 percent income tax. The only other clause was that for every 7 men the guild hired to work at their profession, 1 worker had to be over 55 years of age and not used for the fleet. The religious interference component that all guilds of Europe seemed to be effected with was, restricted to the catholic church of San Biasio, which had the support of the Venetian nobles. This contract lasted till 1773.

date = { day = 15 month = july year = 1582 }
offset = 90
deathdate = { day = 10 month = january year = 1773 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME326078A" #Yes to the deal
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 370 value = 1 } #Veneto
command = { type = provincetax which = 370 value = -2 } #Veneto
command = { type = galleys which = -2 value = 10 }
command = { type = trigger which = 326082 } #End of contract
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME326078B" #No to the deal
command = { type = stability value = -2 } #higher taxes
command = { type = provincetax which = 370 value = 1 } #raising taxes
command = { type = sleepevent which = 326082 } #End of contract
}
}


#(1773) End of Contract - historical
event = {
id = 326082
trigger = {
event = 326078
}
random = no
country = VEN
name = "EVENTNAME326082" #End of contract
desc = "EVENTHIST326082"
#-#In 1773, Venice decided to terminate its manpower contract with the Venetian guilds.

date = { day = 10 month = january year = 1773 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME326082A" #close the contract
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 370 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 370 value = 2 } #Veneto
}
}
 
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change below

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0107508 }
startdate = {
day = 18
month = february
year = 1525
}
deathdate = {
day = 1
month = january
year = 1553
}
name = "Habsburg Regency" "Monti dei Nobiliti"
DIP = 4
MIL = 5
ADM = 4
dormant = no
}


In the following year Clement VII. insisted on the recall of Fabio Petrucci; but two years later a fresh popular outbreak drove him from Siena for ever. The city then placed itself under the protection of the emperor .Charles V., created a magistracy of "ten conservators of the liberties of the state" (December 1524), united the different monti in one named the "monte of the reigning nobles," and, rejoicing to be rid of the last of the Petrucci, dated their public books, ab instaurata libertate year I., II., and so on.

The so-called free government subject to the empire lasted for twenty-seven years; and the desired protection of Spain weighed more and more heavily until it became a tyranny. The imperial legates and the captains of the Spanish guard in Siena crushed both government and people by continual extortions and by undue interference with the functions of the balia.
 
Re post #1726, any generic regencies should be replaced with specific, historical people where possible.

This is an overall remark, but here seemed as good as place as any to post it.

AFAIK, there are still a number of 'XXX Regency' rulers left, and we rather ought to change them to real people ASAP.

If you find any (anyone, not just you Toio ;)), find out what you can about the people who would have served during that period of time and add them in chronological order with the closest names and dates you can find.

Even if the dates are a bit off - I understand it can be difficult finding accurate information for lesser-known individuals - it's still better than having the likes of 'Habsburg Regency' or 'Mongol Warlords' :)
 
does this sequence make sense?

Code:
#(1512-1515) French troops abandon Milan
#modified by Bordic
event = {
	id = 12025
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 389 data = FRA } #Lombardia
		NOT = { exists = MLO }
		core = { province = 389 data = -1 } #Lombardia
		OR = {
			event = 17024 #PAP: The Holy League against France
			event = 236006 #MUS: The Holy League against France
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME12025" #French troops abandon Milan
	desc = "EVENTHIST12025"
	#-#In spite of their victories in Northern Italy, the French troops were forced to abandon the battlefield both because of financial reasons and because after the successful battle of Ravenna the Emperor was withdrawing troops and would have joined the holy league formed by Papal States, Spain, England and Venice with the help of Swiss troops hired by Pope Julius II himself and led into war by the Bishop of Sion, Mathias Schiner. Thence the decision to withdraw from Milan. Julius II recovered Ravenna, Bologna and the rest of the Romagna, while his commander, the Duke of Urbino, easily occupied Reggio and Modena, though Alfonso d'Este refused any settlement that would deprive him of Ferrara. After having chased out the French from Italy, the congress of allies which met at Mantua in August made over to the Pope Parma and Piacenza, to which he had at best a shadowy claim. The Emperor and Fernando would have been glad to give Milan to their grandson Charles but the Swiss were in possession and, supported by the Pope, made their will good. The duchy was given to Ercole Massimiliano Sforza, the elder son of Ludovico. The Venetian claims were left unsettled with Brescia still held out and the Swiss claiming Cremona and the Ghiara d'Adda for the duchy. And more, the Emperor demanded Vicenza and Verona. Florence, who in 1509 had ended her long war by the recovery of Pisa, was punished for her support of France by the restoration of the Medici. Entering Milan, Ercole Massimiliano Sforza received the keys to the city from the Swiss soldiers, who promised to protect the duchy of Milan and to help the Duke in sending to him all the troops he would need. The Duke granted them the acquisition of the ducal territories Ticino and Valtellina, the most important accesses to the Alpine passes. Genoa drew back its allegiance to the French King, who in 1506 harshly repressed a local rebellion that broke out owing to the decision taken by the French governor to grant privileges to the nobilty. But Julius II made also a treaty with his late ally, Maximilian, against Venice. The emperor was to support the Lateran council to oppose that one proclaimed by Louis XII in Pisa and to hand over Modena to the Pope, while Julius II was to join in compelling Venice to give up the fiefs which the Emperor claimed since Cambrai and to use on behalf of his new ally also the always convincing 'spiritual weapons'. When this treaty was made public, it had only the effect to drive Venice to side with France.

	date = { day = 6 month = April year = 1512 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = December year = 1515 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME12025A" #Commence tactical retreat
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = MIL which = -2 value = 12 }
		command = { type = independence which = MLO }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = PAP value = 402 } #Emilia
		command = { type = trigger which = 228029 } #MLO: Sforza restored in Milan
		command = { type = trigger which = 174031 } #GEN: French troops abandon Genoa
		command = { type = trigger which = 251046 } #PAP: French troops abandon Italy
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME12025B" #Never Surrender
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 389 value = 20 } #Lombardia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 402 value = 20 } #Emilia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 393 value = 20 } #Napoli
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 394 value = 20 } #Apulia
		command = { type = treasury value = -300 } #high costs for troops
		command = { type = desertion which = 389 value = 10000 } #disbanding armies
		command = { type = desertion which = 402 value = 10000 } #disbanding armies
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -75 }
		command = { type = relation which = SAV value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HEL value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -50 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 4 } #for keeping Milan
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 326037 } #VEN: The treaty at Blois
	}
}


Code:
#(1512-1515) Sforza restored in Milan
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 228029 #triggered by FRA_12025 A
	random = no
	country = MLO
	name = "EVENTNAME228029" #Sforza restored in Milan
	desc = "EVENTHIST12025"
	#-#In spite of their victories in Northern Italy, the French troops were forced to abandon the battlefield both because of financial reasons and because after the successful battle of Ravenna the Emperor was withdrawing troops and would have joined the holy league formed by Papal States, Spain, England and Venice with the help of Swiss troops hired by Pope Julius II himself and led into war by the Bishop of Sion, Mathias Schiner. Thence the decision to withdraw from Milan. Julius II recovered Ravenna, Bologna and the rest of the Romagna, while his commander, the Duke of Urbino, easily occupied Reggio and Modena, though Alfonso d'Este refused any settlement that would deprive him of Ferrara. After having chased out the French from Italy, the congress of allies which met at Mantua in August made over to the Pope Parma and Piacenza, to which he had at best a shadowy claim. The Emperor and Fernando would have been glad to give Milan to their grandson Charles but the Swiss were in possession and, supported by the Pope, made their will good. The duchy was given to Ercole Massimiliano Sforza, the elder son of Ludovico. The Venetian claims were left unsettled with Brescia still held out and the Swiss claiming Cremona and the Ghiara d'Adda for the duchy. And more, the Emperor demanded Vicenza and Verona. Florence, who in 1509 had ended her long war by the recovery of Pisa, was punished for her support of France by the restoration of the Medici. Entering Milan, Ercole Massimiliano Sforza received the keys to the city from the Swiss soldiers, who promised to protect the duchy of Milan and to help the Duke in sending to him all the troops he would need. The Duke granted them the acquisition of the ducal territories Ticino and Valtellina, the most important accesses to the Alpine passes. Genoa drew back its allegiance to the French King, who in 1506 harshly repressed a local rebellion that broke out owing to the decision taken by the French governor to grant privileges to the nobilty. But Julius II made also a treaty with his late ally, Maximilian, against Venice. The emperor was to support the Lateran council to oppose that one proclaimed by Louis XII in Pisa and to hand over Modena to the Pope, while Julius II was to join in compelling Venice to give up the fiefs which the Emperor claimed since Cambrai and to use on behalf of his new ally also the always convincing 'spiritual weapons'. When this treaty was made public, it had only the effect to drive Venice to side with France.

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME228029A" #Ercole Massimiliano is appointed Duke
		command = { type = breakvassal which = FRA }
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HEL value = 25 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -80 } #for hiring troops
		command = { type = population which = -2 value = -2000 } #the Swiss acquiring territories
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 10000 } #the Swiss garrisoning the city
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 5 } #Swiss protectorate
	}
}

Code:
#(1513) Milan under Swiss protectorate
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 184068
	trigger = {
		event = 228029 #MLO: Sforza restored in Milan
	}
	random = no
	country = HEL
	name = "EVENTNAME184068" #Milan under Swiss protectorate
	desc = "EVENTHIST12025"
	#-#In spite of their victories in Northern Italy, the French troops were forced to abandon the battlefield both because of financial reasons and because after the successful battle of Ravenna the Emperor was withdrawing troops and would have joined the holy league formed by Papal States, Spain, England and Venice with the help of Swiss troops hired by Pope Julius II himself and led into war by the Bishop of Sion, Mathias Schiner. Thence the decision to withdraw from Milan. Julius II recovered Ravenna, Bologna and the rest of the Romagna, while his commander, the Duke of Urbino, easily occupied Reggio and Modena, though Alfonso d'Este refused any settlement that would deprive him of Ferrara. After having chased out the French from Italy, the congress of allies which met at Mantua in August made over to the Pope Parma and Piacenza, to which he had at best a shadowy claim. The Emperor and Fernando would have been glad to give Milan to their grandson Charles but the Swiss were in possession and, supported by the Pope, made their will good. The duchy was given to Ercole Massimiliano Sforza, the elder son of Ludovico. The Venetian claims were left unsettled with Brescia still held out and the Swiss claiming Cremona and the Ghiara d'Adda for the duchy. And more, the Emperor demanded Vicenza and Verona. Florence, who in 1509 had ended her long war by the recovery of Pisa, was punished for her support of France by the restoration of the Medici. Entering Milan, Ercole Massimiliano Sforza received the keys to the city from the Swiss soldiers, who promised to protect the duchy of Milan and to help the Duke in sending to him all the troops he would need. The Duke granted them the acquisition of the ducal territories Ticino and Valtellina, the most important accesses to the Alpine passes. Genoa drew back its allegiance to the French King, who in 1506 harshly repressed a local rebellion that broke out owing to the decision taken by the French governor to grant privileges to the nobilty. But Julius II made also a treaty with his late ally, Maximilian, against Venice. The emperor was to support the Lateran council to oppose that one proclaimed by Louis XII in Pisa and to hand over Modena to the Pope, while Julius II was to join in compelling Venice to give up the fiefs which the Emperor claimed since Cambrai and to use on behalf of his new ally also the always convincing 'spiritual weapons'. When this treaty was made public, it had only the effect to drive Venice to side with France.

	date = { day = 1 month = January year = 1513 }
	offset = 20
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = January year = 1514 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME184068A" #Let's protect the Duke of Milan
		command = { type = vassal which = MLO } #Milan was under strong Swiss and Papal influence
		command = { type = treasury value = 100 } #for hiring troops
		command = { type = population which = -2 value = 2000 } #Ticino and Valtellina
		command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = 1 } #Ticino and Valtellina
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = -2 value = 1 } #Ticino and Valtellina
		command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 25 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 25 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
	}
}


does it even fire ???
 
does this sequence make sense?

Code:
#(1512-1515) French troops abandon Milan
#modified by Bordic
event = {
	id = 12025
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 389 data = FRA } #Lombardia
		NOT = { exists = MLO }
		[COLOR="Red"]core = { province = 389 data = -1 } #Lombardia[/COLOR]
		OR = {
			event = 17024 #PAP: The Holy League against France
			event = 236006 #MUS: The Holy League against France
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME12025" #French troops abandon Milan
	desc = "EVENTHIST12025"
	#-#In spite of their victories in Northern Italy, the French troops were forced to abandon the battlefield both because of financial reasons and because after the successful battle of Ravenna the Emperor was withdrawing troops and would have joined the holy league formed by Papal States, Spain, England and Venice with the help of Swiss troops hired by Pope Julius II himself and led into war by the Bishop of Sion, Mathias Schiner. Thence the decision to withdraw from Milan. Julius II recovered Ravenna, Bologna and the rest of the Romagna, while his commander, the Duke of Urbino, easily occupied Reggio and Modena, though Alfonso d'Este refused any settlement that would deprive him of Ferrara. After having chased out the French from Italy, the congress of allies which met at Mantua in August made over to the Pope Parma and Piacenza, to which he had at best a shadowy claim. The Emperor and Fernando would have been glad to give Milan to their grandson Charles but the Swiss were in possession and, supported by the Pope, made their will good. The duchy was given to Ercole Massimiliano Sforza, the elder son of Ludovico. The Venetian claims were left unsettled with Brescia still held out and the Swiss claiming Cremona and the Ghiara d'Adda for the duchy. And more, the Emperor demanded Vicenza and Verona. Florence, who in 1509 had ended her long war by the recovery of Pisa, was punished for her support of France by the restoration of the Medici. Entering Milan, Ercole Massimiliano Sforza received the keys to the city from the Swiss soldiers, who promised to protect the duchy of Milan and to help the Duke in sending to him all the troops he would need. The Duke granted them the acquisition of the ducal territories Ticino and Valtellina, the most important accesses to the Alpine passes. Genoa drew back its allegiance to the French King, who in 1506 harshly repressed a local rebellion that broke out owing to the decision taken by the French governor to grant privileges to the nobilty. But Julius II made also a treaty with his late ally, Maximilian, against Venice. The emperor was to support the Lateran council to oppose that one proclaimed by Louis XII in Pisa and to hand over Modena to the Pope, while Julius II was to join in compelling Venice to give up the fiefs which the Emperor claimed since Cambrai and to use on behalf of his new ally also the always convincing 'spiritual weapons'. When this treaty was made public, it had only the effect to drive Venice to side with France.

	date = { day = 6 month = April year = 1512 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = December year = 1515 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME12025A" #Commence tactical retreat
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = MIL which = -2 value = 12 }
		command = { type = independence which = MLO }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = PAP value = 402 } #Emilia
		command = { type = trigger which = 228029 } #MLO: Sforza restored in Milan
		command = { type = trigger which = 174031 } #GEN: French troops abandon Genoa
		command = { type = trigger which = 251046 } #PAP: French troops abandon Italy
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME12025B" #Never Surrender
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 389 value = 20 } #Lombardia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 402 value = 20 } #Emilia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 393 value = 20 } #Napoli
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 394 value = 20 } #Apulia
		command = { type = treasury value = -300 } #high costs for troops
		command = { type = desertion which = 389 value = 10000 } #disbanding armies
		command = { type = desertion which = 402 value = 10000 } #disbanding armies
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -75 }
		command = { type = relation which = SAV value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HEL value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -50 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 4 } #for keeping Milan
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 326037 } #VEN: The treaty at Blois
	}
}


Code:
#(1512-1515) Sforza restored in Milan
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 228029 #triggered by FRA_12025 A
	random = no
	country = MLO
	name = "EVENTNAME228029" #Sforza restored in Milan
	desc = "EVENTHIST12025"
	#-#In spite of their victories in Northern Italy, the French troops were forced to abandon the battlefield both because of financial reasons and because after the successful battle of Ravenna the Emperor was withdrawing troops and would have joined the holy league formed by Papal States, Spain, England and Venice with the help of Swiss troops hired by Pope Julius II himself and led into war by the Bishop of Sion, Mathias Schiner. Thence the decision to withdraw from Milan. Julius II recovered Ravenna, Bologna and the rest of the Romagna, while his commander, the Duke of Urbino, easily occupied Reggio and Modena, though Alfonso d'Este refused any settlement that would deprive him of Ferrara. After having chased out the French from Italy, the congress of allies which met at Mantua in August made over to the Pope Parma and Piacenza, to which he had at best a shadowy claim. The Emperor and Fernando would have been glad to give Milan to their grandson Charles but the Swiss were in possession and, supported by the Pope, made their will good. The duchy was given to Ercole Massimiliano Sforza, the elder son of Ludovico. The Venetian claims were left unsettled with Brescia still held out and the Swiss claiming Cremona and the Ghiara d'Adda for the duchy. And more, the Emperor demanded Vicenza and Verona. Florence, who in 1509 had ended her long war by the recovery of Pisa, was punished for her support of France by the restoration of the Medici. Entering Milan, Ercole Massimiliano Sforza received the keys to the city from the Swiss soldiers, who promised to protect the duchy of Milan and to help the Duke in sending to him all the troops he would need. The Duke granted them the acquisition of the ducal territories Ticino and Valtellina, the most important accesses to the Alpine passes. Genoa drew back its allegiance to the French King, who in 1506 harshly repressed a local rebellion that broke out owing to the decision taken by the French governor to grant privileges to the nobilty. But Julius II made also a treaty with his late ally, Maximilian, against Venice. The emperor was to support the Lateran council to oppose that one proclaimed by Louis XII in Pisa and to hand over Modena to the Pope, while Julius II was to join in compelling Venice to give up the fiefs which the Emperor claimed since Cambrai and to use on behalf of his new ally also the always convincing 'spiritual weapons'. When this treaty was made public, it had only the effect to drive Venice to side with France.

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME228029A" #Ercole Massimiliano is appointed Duke
		command = { type = breakvassal which = FRA }
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HEL value = 25 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -80 } #for hiring troops
		command = { type = population which = -2 value = -2000 } #the Swiss acquiring territories
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 10000 } #the Swiss garrisoning the city
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 5 } #Swiss protectorate
	}
}

Code:
#(1513) Milan under Swiss protectorate
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 184068
	trigger = {
		event = 228029 #MLO: Sforza restored in Milan
	}
	random = no
	country = HEL
	name = "EVENTNAME184068" #Milan under Swiss protectorate
	desc = "EVENTHIST12025"
	#-#In spite of their victories in Northern Italy, the French troops were forced to abandon the battlefield both because of financial reasons and because after the successful battle of Ravenna the Emperor was withdrawing troops and would have joined the holy league formed by Papal States, Spain, England and Venice with the help of Swiss troops hired by Pope Julius II himself and led into war by the Bishop of Sion, Mathias Schiner. Thence the decision to withdraw from Milan. Julius II recovered Ravenna, Bologna and the rest of the Romagna, while his commander, the Duke of Urbino, easily occupied Reggio and Modena, though Alfonso d'Este refused any settlement that would deprive him of Ferrara. After having chased out the French from Italy, the congress of allies which met at Mantua in August made over to the Pope Parma and Piacenza, to which he had at best a shadowy claim. The Emperor and Fernando would have been glad to give Milan to their grandson Charles but the Swiss were in possession and, supported by the Pope, made their will good. The duchy was given to Ercole Massimiliano Sforza, the elder son of Ludovico. The Venetian claims were left unsettled with Brescia still held out and the Swiss claiming Cremona and the Ghiara d'Adda for the duchy. And more, the Emperor demanded Vicenza and Verona. Florence, who in 1509 had ended her long war by the recovery of Pisa, was punished for her support of France by the restoration of the Medici. Entering Milan, Ercole Massimiliano Sforza received the keys to the city from the Swiss soldiers, who promised to protect the duchy of Milan and to help the Duke in sending to him all the troops he would need. The Duke granted them the acquisition of the ducal territories Ticino and Valtellina, the most important accesses to the Alpine passes. Genoa drew back its allegiance to the French King, who in 1506 harshly repressed a local rebellion that broke out owing to the decision taken by the French governor to grant privileges to the nobilty. But Julius II made also a treaty with his late ally, Maximilian, against Venice. The emperor was to support the Lateran council to oppose that one proclaimed by Louis XII in Pisa and to hand over Modena to the Pope, while Julius II was to join in compelling Venice to give up the fiefs which the Emperor claimed since Cambrai and to use on behalf of his new ally also the always convincing 'spiritual weapons'. When this treaty was made public, it had only the effect to drive Venice to side with France.

	date = { day = 1 month = January year = 1513 }
	offset = 20
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = January year = 1514 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME184068A" #Let's protect the Duke of Milan
		command = { type = vassal which = MLO } #Milan was under strong Swiss and Papal influence
		command = { type = treasury value = 100 } #for hiring troops
		command = { type = population which = -2 value = 2000 } #Ticino and Valtellina
		command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = 1 } #Ticino and Valtellina
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = -2 value = 1 } #Ticino and Valtellina
		command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 25 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 25 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
	}
}


does it even fire. ???

amended
 
It is important for France to have a core on Lombardia for this sequence to fire. Bordic should say but I'm sure the condition was here for a good reason.

Please check which FRA events can grant this core before 1512. It should help understanding.
 
It is important for France to have a core on Lombardia for this sequence to fire. Bordic should say but I'm sure the condition was here for a good reason.

Please check which FRA events can grant this core before 1512. It should help understanding.
Yes, as far as I can remember (much time has passed...) France should get the core on Lombardia in order to start the Italian Wars sequence concerning Milan. Otherwise Milan could already be a French possession due to the Orleanais inheritance after Visconti's death in 1447.
 
Thanks for the answer. Orleanais inheritance is indeed the good reason.

so, if FRA annex MLO prior to 1499 orleanais event, then the swiss event cannot fire, because FRA will not have a core on lombardia, is that correct ?
 
so, if FRA annex MLO prior to 1499 orleanais event, then the swiss event cannot fire, because FRA will not have a core on lombardia, is that correct ?
Orleanais inheritance is ahistorical. Core condition in FRA_12025 is for historical sequence.

No this is not entirely correct, check French events where core is granted (addcore which = 389). FRA_170039 and FRA_170154 are the keys and core can be granted even without Orleanais inheritance (claim is still present). But it is always possible for France to give up (lose the core) and be considered less aggressive as they were. In this case, Swiss wouldn't have the same reaction (protect Sforza) even if Sforza reappeared in a freed Milan. This is the spirit of the sequence.
 
Orleanais inheritance is ahistorical. Core condition in FRA_12025 is for historical sequence.

No this is not entirely correct, check French events where core is granted (addcore which = 389). FRA_170039 and FRA_170154 are the keys and core can be granted even without Orleanais inheritance (claim is still present). But it is always possible for France to give up (lose the core) and be considered less aggressive as they were. In this case, Swiss wouldn't have the same reaction (protect Sforza) even if Sforza reappeared in a freed Milan. This is the spirit of the sequence.

problem is that action B is always available for the AI to choose.

To make it clearer and discard my proposal (event 12025), we should delete action B in event below, reason being, if FRA owns lombardie , why would they not want to gain a core anyway ( and not refuse it) since its theirs by birth right. And if lombardy was owned by someone else, then even more so FRA would want the lands.

The other event if MLO exists can stay as is.

This makes it more logical.



#(1499-1504) The Orléanais inheritance of Milan (in case France or Venice already own Milan)
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 170154
trigger = {
NOT = {
exists = MLO
event = 12024 #FRA: The Orléanais inheritance of Milan
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 389 data = -1 } #Lombardia
AND = {
owned = { province = 389 data = VEN } #Lombardia
NOT = { war = { country = FRA country = VEN } }
}
}
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "EVENTNAME12024" #The Orléanais inheritance of Milan
desc = "EVENTHIST170154"
#-#On 7 April 1498, upon Charles VIII's death at Amboise (he knocked his head while passing through a doorway in his going to see a game of real tennis), the throne of France passed to his cousin Louis of Orléans, who reigned as Louis XII. On his accession, he took the titles of Duke of Milan and King of Sicily, sending a shrounding chill through Italy, Louis XII came to throne in France with the clear idea of making good his claim to Milan from his Visconti grandmother, Bianca sister to Filippo Maria Visconti, considered as the last legitimate Duke to rule over Milan until 1447. But Milan and her dependency, Genoa, were also seen as the key to Italy but the Frence presence in Northern Italy would mean a constant menace to the balance of powers, expecially to the Emperor and its Italian fiefs.

date = { day = 10 month = April year = 1499 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 10 month = April year = 1504 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME170154A" #We own Milan legitimatedly
command = { type = addcore which = 389 } #Lombardia
command = { type = treasury value = -150 } #should cost something
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = -25 }
command = { type = dynastic which = GEN } #Genoa should actually be vassal
command = { type = trigger which = 326019 } #VEN: The treaty of Blois
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME170154B" #We are not interested in expanding in Italy
command = { type = removecore which = 389 } #Lombardia
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
command = { type = DIP which = 2 value = 60 } #traditional French expansionist directions
command = { type = independence which = MLO }
command = { type = independence which = PAR }
command = { type = independence which = PAM }
command = { type = independence which = MAN }
command = { type = independence which = SAV }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 137035 } #BUR: Philippe's Burgundian claims I
command = { type = sleepevent which = 137036 } #BUR: Philippe's Burgundian claims II
command = { type = sleepevent which = 170042 } #FRA: The destiny of Ludovico Sforza
command = { type = sleepevent which = 170043 } #FRA: The Treaty of Granada

}
}
 
But the event can fire if France doesn't own the province. We have two different possible conditions for this event. Why removing the action then if only in order to avoid AI making the "wrong" choice with 5% chance?

Better have a twin event with no choice if France really owns the province but keep the two actions for the other case (Venice). Please check other related and following events and propose.
 
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But the event can fire if France doesn't own the province. We have two different possible conditions for this event. Why removing the action then if only in order to avoid AI making the "wrong" choice with 5% chance?

because its an illogical wrong choice, why concede what is by marriage yours ( as the event is called) when you already own it. Thats silly.


Better have a twin event with no choice if France really owns the province but keep the two actions for the other case (Venice). Please check other related and following events and propose.

i do not understand.

the event where MLO exist should stay as is, then FRA can go for lombardia ( action A) or not ( action B)
 
because its an illogical wrong choice, why concede what is by marriage yours ( as the event is called) when you already own it. Thats silly.

Because the french King could concentrate on France and have a vassal in Milan for whatever reason?
 
ConjurerDragon is right. Why not? This is only 5% chance for AI anyway. It can happen.

@Toio: my idea was splitting FRA_170154 in two twin events with first condition NOT ( exists MLO + event 12024) :
first event with condition France owns Lombardia => no choice (only action a)
second event with conditon Venice owns Lombardia and France not at war against Venice => action a + action b
 
ConjurerDragon is right. Why not? This is only 5% chance for AI anyway. It can happen.

@Toio: my idea was splitting FRA_170154 in two twin events with first condition NOT ( exists MLO + event 12024) :
first event with condition France owns Lombardia => no choice (only action a)
second event with conditon Venice owns Lombardia and France not at war against Venice => action a + action b
Yes, I think it could be a better solution. It could be useful to improve the chances to trigger the sequence of the Holy League against France.