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It's always nice to wake up to activity. Unfortunately I will not be able to help much, since I have to catch a train. This is likely to be my only post today.

I like where OrangeYoshi his analysis is going, but I can't help but notice that he is accusing dublish right after dublish accused him. That screams wolf to me. Also there is this:
I now think you are a baddie talking about a baddie.
Looks a bit like a crovax to me. The person dublish was talking about was OrangeYoshi :)

Vote OrangeYoshi
 
Damnit OrangeYoshi, before you showed up, it was all so simple - we ran around, arms flailing shouting "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE F*$% IS GOING ON" :p

And I chose a hell of a game for my first WW. Now, as I am bored and unable to sleep, I shall chip in my two'penneths worth on the remaining players of the game:

2. Slinky - Pretty sure he's a villager, like more opinions on him, as although he's been active, he seems pretty neutral Edit: Above post confuses me some more - Slinky could easily be on either side, although I still personally think he's a villager, but I know nothing
3. Exadus (OrangeYoshi) - No idea, if he's not a wolf, good. If he is a wolf, he's putting in far too much effort and analysis to attempt to throw us off when we've pretty much managed to screw everything up ourselves :eek:o Edit: Slinky makes a good point about that possible crovaxian slip
6. the_hdk - beats me, been pretty anonymous, probably a wolf, seen as I have no evidence either way, but someone has to be a wolf :p
8. walrus - I'm the only 110% bona fide Loyalist here
10. EURO - I personally trust Euro, although, knowing WW, it wouldn't surprise me if all is not as it seems
11. XenomorphII - outed himself as a villager to me via PM. Whether he's telling the truth is debatable, but other than helping us lynch snoop, he hasn't done anything to draw attention to himself, or done anything to indicate being a plotter
14. Lord_D - If Euro is on the level, Lord_D has been scanned and is a loyalist, and he had a bit of a rant at Euro after being told of this. So, more likely a villager than a plotter, depending on how you feel about Euro
16. THE_SPLIT (Jester180) - beats me whats going on here, Jester hasn't had enough time to do anything, and we heard nothing from Split, so either he's been a very, very quiet wolf, or he's just not being paying attention.
20. JMJ - I don't trust JMJ, as I think he might just be role playing Goering to throw us off, although the only real reason I had to suspect him was the one that got people voting for Jester in his original role, which turned out to be a false dawn

Damnit, now I'm really confused.

Super Powered Double Edit: I remember being suspicious of Exadus back on the first day, due to him RP'ing Himmler and just generally acting deliberately suspicious. Refuge in audacity?

I choose you, triple edit!: At least, with removing 3 people yesterday, we've made it slightly less confusing today, and to expand a little bit on my hunting decision, I had a shortlist of several names, who to me were suspicious simply through NOT being suspicious. I merely went ieenie meenie miine mo and picked J Pass, I could easily have picked any of several other people. Now, I told Euro about more short list, and he didn't push any particular name - so, either he;s a good guy, and really did have no idea who is what, or, he's a bad guy, and my list was all good guys, so whoever I picked, he was a winner

I hate this game, I could be in bed, sleeping, but instead I'm awake, being paranoid :p
 
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I like where OrangeYoshi his analysis is going, but I can't help but notice that he is accusing dublish right after dublish accused him. That screams wolf to me. Also there is this:

Looks a bit like a crovax to me. The person dublish was talking about was OrangeYoshi :)

1. Look at the post times. It was more than an hour later that I posted that long analytical post. My accusation of dublish has more to do with re-using my arguement than his accusation of me in this game. It seems like only baddies have used that arguement.

2. Let me give you the exact post I was saying dublish was talking about a baddie in. Ah...here it is. Post number [post=9819297]332[/post]. Actually, it is the post above the one where I asked to sub. He was not talking about me, he was talking about snooppdogg.

Damnit OrangeYoshi, before you showed up, it was all so simple - we ran around, arms flailing shouting "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE F*$% IS GOING ON" :p
:) That is what I'm here for.

And I chose a hell of a game for my first WW. Now, as I am bored and unable to sleep, I shall chip in my two'penneths worth on the remaining players of the game:
You sure did pick a crazy first game.

3. Exadus (OrangeYoshi) - No idea, if he's not a wolf, good. If he is a wolf, he's putting in far too much effort and analysis to attempt to throw us off when we've pretty much managed to screw everything up ourselves :eek:o Edit: Slinky makes a good point about that possible crovaxian slip

Nevermind. I just read the rules that say you can't quote a PM from the GM. I was going to give you the PM that says I'm a villager and 3rd in command.

I choose you, triple edit!: At least, with removing 3 people yesterday, we've made it slightly less confusing today, and to expand a little bit on my hunting decision, I had a shortlist of several names, who to me were suspicious simply through NOT being suspicious. I merely went ieenie meenie miine mo and picked J Pass, I could easily have picked any of several other people. Now, I told Euro about more short list, and he didn't push any particular name - so, either he;s a good guy, and really did have no idea who is what, or, he's a bad guy, and my list was all good guys, so whoever I picked, he was a winner
Since "hunter" is a role, we all know you are a goodie now. You just made a mistake when choosing who to "arrest".

Yes, this is WW, and yes EURO can be hard to trust at times, but I really think he is a goodie. Wait a sec....

so, either he;s a good guy, and really did have no idea who is what
If he is the SSeer, he would know exactly what is going on. Surely he could've given either a name not to "arrest" at least.

Vote EUROO7

Due to new evidence, I am now leaning toward EURO being a baddie, and possibly the SSorc.

I hate this game, I could be in bed, sleeping, but instead I'm awake, being paranoid :p
But it is so much fun, isn't it?
 
Nevermind. I just read the rules that say you can't quote a PM from the GM. I was going to give you the PM that says I'm a villager and 3rd in command.
Much as I'd like to believe that, the nature of this game means I'm sceptical. However, you're less suspicious than a number of other people and I like your analysis, so for now at least, I'll trust you :p Also, I suppose Exadus's RP'ing of Himmler makes sense if he was 3rd in command.....

Yes, this is WW, and yes EURO can be hard to trust at times, but I really think he is a goodie. Wait a sec....

If he is the SSeer, he would know exactly what is going on. Surely he could've given either a name not to "arrest" at least.

Due to new evidence, I am now leaning toward EURO being a baddie, and possibly the SSorc.
Thats what I was thinking when I PM'ed him, that he could point me away from certian people, but now I'm going to do a little bit of thread surfing and see what I find *thread surfs*

Ok, so, from the goings on in the thread, I can deduce, on the first night, he scanned Morpehus (or Jonti scanned Morpheus, and told Euro....and on a side note, Ahura voted for JMJ that day......), on the second day he scanned me, then PM'ed me about it, on the 3rd, he scanned Rysz (and got it a bit wrong), on the 4th he scanned Cuth, and on the 5th, he scanned Lord_D.

So, from this, I deduce that Euro had not had a chance to scan anyone as innocent that I didn't already know about, which seems to swing it back towards him being a good guy. Although, maybe he's using some weird sort of tactics


But it is so much fun, isn't it?
Damn straight :D
 
Ok, so, from the goings on in the thread, I can deduce, on the first night, he scanned Morpehus (or Jonti scanned Morpheus, and told Euro....and on a side note, Ahura voted for JMJ that day......), on the second day he scanned me, then PM'ed me about it, on the 3rd, he scanned Rysz (and got it a bit wrong), on the 4th he scanned Cuth, and on the 5th, he scanned Lord_D.

But that doesn't work either. Morpheus was lynched on day one. No one was ever able to scan him. But that raises one more question. Morpheus had a rival. Who was that rival? Did the GM make two baddies rivals to keep the balance instead of giving the goodies another scanner?

Who scanned you? Ahura, or EURO? I'm pretty sure you mean EURO.

I will look at this as if EURO is a SSorc (or any baddie really) instead of a SSeer. If he is a SSorc, he is probably in contact with the wolfpack. Therefore, he knows who to scan, and can tell them whatever he wants. You don't even need to worry about his 20% chance of an innocent scanning as a baddie, because he already knows all of the baddies names.

He pretty much knows all of the baddies and goodies, so he can just come up to a person and tell them exactly what he told Lord_D in his PM. It was a fool-proof system in the chaos that was this game. As far as I could tell, there wasn't very much open analyzing as in past games, so he thought he could get away with a giant con-game.
 
This man speaks sense. You've convinced me, at least, untill someone has other ideas about who is who

Vote EUROO7

Edit: The only problem with your theory is the outing, and subsequent lynching of Cuth......this doesn't preclude Euro being the sorc, but what did he (and the wolves) have to gain by deliberately killing off one of their own? Other than to throw off suspicion, a bit of mis-communication, or his desire to be subbed out, I can't think of anything
 
Edit: The only problem with your theory is the outing, and subsequent lynching of Cuth......this doesn't preclude Euro being the sorc, but what did he (and the wolves) have to gain by deliberately killing off one of their own? Other than to throw off suspicion, a bit of mis-communication, or his desire to be subbed out, I can't think of anything

The bolded. Maybe he thought the heat was getting to hot on him, so he sacrificed a fellow baddie to regain some credibility.

Time for me to go to bed. Good-night all!
 
So, at the moment we have two votes for OrangeYoshi, and two votes for Euro........a tie two nights in a row? You heard it here first! :p
 
But! At least now, my trait is used, so the wolves have no particular reason to hunt me above other, potentially traited villagers, and now I'm a confirmed goodie!

Quite to the contrary actually, being a goodie makes you a target for wolves (opposed to others who still might be sorcs).

So, at the moment we have two votes for OrangeYoshi, and two votes for Euro........a tie two nights in a row? You heard it here first! :p

3 votes for EURO, I was first. You 2 are just fashionably late :p
 
Quite to the contrary actually, being a goodie makes you a target for wolves (opposed to others who still might be sorcs).

Indeed, but now I'm just a bog standard villager, with no trait or leadership, and therefore it might be in the wolves best interest to go after someone else. Alternatively, I've had a good run, and I wouldn't be surprised if I got killed tonight - I was surprised it didn't happen last night, but maybe I'm overstating my importance

3 votes for EURO, I was first. You 2 are just fashionably late :p
D'oh! :eek:o
 
Indeed, but now I'm just a bog standard villager, with no trait or leadership, and therefore it might be in the wolves best interest to go after someone else. Alternatively, I've had a good run, and I wouldn't be surprised if I got killed tonight - I was surprised it didn't happen last night, but maybe I'm overstating my importance

As already stated I'm rather more surprised how the wolves never got the idea to hunt the supposed SuperSeer, but that's just me (and now 2 others as well :)).
 
As already stated I'm rather more surprised how the wolves never got the idea to hunt the supposed SuperSeer, but that's just me (and now 2 others as well :)).

I'd imagine we're probably going to end up lynching Euro today, then we'll soon find out exactly how stupid some (all?) of us have been :p
 
1.- How was I able to out a wolf on the first day?

I'm his rival. I figured he was bad, as it would be stupid to make two on the same side rivals. I outed him because the game started with a NIGHT deadline. Yes, OrangeYoshi, sometimes games are a little different, and you just have to live with it. Make sure you find out all the facts before accussing someone blindly.

2.- Why did I not give walrus any advice on who to hunt?

I had no idea who the baddies are! I don't know everyone's role. I just thought you already knew that, but apparently I have to tell you, the super in my role name does not imply I know everything, and I had no specially exciting leads that day.

3.- Maybe the GM made two baddies rivals, so it would balance out the game?

How the hell should I know how Racz balanced his game!? I just know you are making a big mistake by lynching the guy who has given you the name of EVERY BADDIE LYNCHED SO FAR!

4.- Why is the village so stupid?

It's being lead by the wolves. Or wolf, in this case. OrangeYoshi, I am sure is a wolf, without even scanning him.

First case against him: There was no hunt last night. Now, maybe it was a cursed or blessed that was hit, but maybe, just maybe, there was no hunt order, because the wolf was inactive. Guess who's role was vacant last night? That's right, OrangeYoshi's.

Second Case against him: He's making you lynch the Super fucking SEER! :mad:

Third case against him: Have you heard of the Ironhead Complex, my friends? ;)

I believe OrangeYoshi has this complex, and should thus be lynched today, based on him being a wolf.

Vote OrangeYoshi

walrus, what was it exactly that makes me suspicious?
 
Yes please. I've never heard of it.
The truthfulness of his arguments are inversely proportional to how convincing he is.

You are apparently very convincing. ;)
 
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I will be gone at the deadline, so I am relying on the other villager to see the truth in my arguements, and to lynch the baddie named EUROO7.

See ya later.
Of course, flee the argument because you realise if you continue you will lose.