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Oh and I seriously want an explication from walrus. :(

I'm an idiot :eek:o (i.e. I thought I might be getting killed by the plotters, and I wanted to use my trait, and I picked the wrong person :mad:)

But! At least now, my trait is used, so the wolves have no particular reason to hunt me above other, potentially traited villagers, and now I'm a confirmed goodie!

So now us loyal Germans need to stick together and do a hard bit o'thinking to weed out the traitors amoungst us. And tbh, we can't do much worse than we did tonight :( (And if our own stupidity loses the game, its not going to be a rewarding win for the wolves, so :p)

Edit: Also, I've been talking to Euro through PM, and told him of my intention to have someone hunted. He did not influence my desicion in any way and basically told me to do whatever I felt like. Make of that what you will, as I don't trust anyone anymore
 
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We tied two blessed villagers.

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So Jester was innocent. I'm not willing to go after JMJ any longer. There's no more connecting him to cuth than there was for Jester, and that didn't turn out as well as I thought it would.

I'd be surprised if there were any more blessed players out there. 3 seems a bit much for a 20 person game. I'm willing to bet that the lack of a hunt last night was due to inactivity. Let's take a look at OrangeYoshi/Exadus and Jester180/THE_Split.

Vote Orange Yoshi.
 
I'll wait for you, just don't take too long. ;)
 
I don't know.

We don't know much about you, so tell us about yourself. :p
 
1. I too believe that there was "no hunt" last night due to a cursed villager. There were 3 blessed ones, so I'm sure there were a few cursed ones as well.

2. I do not think that there are two super sorc's and one sorc.

2a. There are ten players left. If there were 3 sorc's, that would leave room for only one wolf. We have not reached parity yet, so there must be less than 5 baddies out there.

2b. If there is only two sorc's, that would leave room for 2 more wolves. This makes the most sense since I doubt the GM would've made uneven packs.

2c. There is only one sorc, and that would leave room for 3 more wolves.

3. The GM didn't list pack names on the first page, so we don't even know if we are dealing with two different packs. I think we only have one pack here.

4. The GM obviously wanted an action packed game, so there are alot of special traits out there.

5. It only makes sense that EURO is a goodie. The GM wouldn't have made two baddies rivals, so one of the rivals should be a goodie. Plus, he has given us two neutrals, which to my understanding, would show up as baddies to the scanner. Either that, or he was the trusted mouth piece for the Super Seer.

6. :rofl: at JMJ's video.

7. I believe we are indeed dealing with 4 baddies here, and the game won't last more than 2 more days. It looks like all the neutrals have been neutralized, so we are down to just the 4 baddies and 6 goodies.

8. The JL must not be very big, if there is one at all. I have my reasons if you want to hear them.

9. For some reason, Cuthuthulu never handed the bomb along to any villagers. This is odd.

10. My view of the game in roles.


2. Slinky
3. Yoshi = villager


6. the_hdk

8. warlus = Used up hunter

10. EURO = Seer, the only one. Edit: Not seer, just spokesperson.
11. XenomorphII


14. Lord_D

16. Jester

19. dublish = baddie
20. JMJ
 
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Hold on a second. Now I know that my "2b." above is the right one. If Jonti and Ahura were the Seer and SuperSeer, there would be one sorc and supersorc. That means that EURO is not a seer. He may still be a confirmed goodie in the eyes of the (late) seers. Plus, he still has the rival thing going for him.
 
Dublish is a baddie?

This is news to me.

Also, what is your reasoning to number 8?

I happen to be running a sinking ship here, so if you have any advice... :p
 
Dublish is a baddie?

This is news to me.
This in not fact, just an opinion. He seems to be using logic that only a person with knowledge of other traits would use. In other words, I think he is one of the two sorcs.

Also, what is your reasoning to number 8?
Well, Jonti died day 2, so he only scanned one person. We have no clue as to whom that might be. Ahura died day four, so he only scanned 3 people. I believe the order would be you, then Rysz, then Cuthuthulu. So you would be the one man JL, now including walrus who has used his hunting ability, and myself, who is a lowly villager.

Note: I originally wrote #8 when I thought that you were a seer. While I no longer think you are a seer, I still think #8 is true.

Edit 2: It is also curious that ahura didn't use his leader role to keep from being lynched.
 
This in not fact, just an opinion. He seems to be using logic that only a person with knowledge of other traits would use. In other words, I think he is one of the two sorcs.
What logic?

Also, the rest of your post is nonsense, since I know I'm the super seer.
 
This in not fact, just an opinion. He seems to be using logic that only a person with knowledge of other traits would use. In other words, I think he is one of the two sorcs.

Mind going into specifics? I have the same information everybody else does.
 
Also, the rest of your post is nonsense, since I know I'm the super seer.
If you are a super seer, mind telling us how many wolves you think are left?

And if you are a super seer, the GM (in order to keep some resemblance of balance) would need to give the baddies 3 scanners. That leaves room for just one wolf, since if there are 5 baddies, this game would be over right now. Even if there is only one pack, I doubt he would've given them an odd number of people. 2 have died, so 2 should be left. 3 or 5 wolves total is just such a departure from the norm for the WW I have seen.

All evidence points to you not being any sort of seer.

Mind going into specifics? I have the same information everybody else does.

Maybe I'm making something out of nothing, but your arguements this game sound very much like my arguement in the last lite game. I was a baddie talking about the seer then, and I now think you are a baddie talking about a baddie. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not. I'm still holding off on my vote because I'm not even 75% sure which side you are on yet.
 
If you are a super seer, mind telling us how many wolves you think are left?

And if you are a super seer, the GM (in order to keep some resemblance of balance) would need to give the baddies 3 scanners. That leaves room for just one wolf, since if there are 5 baddies, this game would be over right now. Even if there is only one pack, I doubt he would've given them an odd number of people. 2 have died, so 2 should be left. 3 or 5 wolves total is just such a departure from the norm for the WW I have seen.

All evidence points to you not being any sort of seer.

Maybe the GM thought the suitcase would tip the balance in favour of the baddies, so he added an extra seer?

I can't argue with the "But the GM wouldn't have..." argument, because I'm not the GM. I don't know what kind of reasoning he put into making two super seers.

And the number of wolves is dependent on the number of players. Maybe they had a cultist, maybe the GM thought having the suitcase was too much so he made only a few wolves.

I really don't know, as I have only scanned two baddies so far (and one false positive).
 
Maybe the GM thought the suitcase would tip the balance in favour of the baddies, so he added an extra seer?
That is possible, but if you are lucky enough to kill both seers with one blast, I would just give them the win.

I can't argue with the "But the GM wouldn't have..." argument, because I'm not the GM. I don't know what kind of reasoning he put into making two super seers.
This goes both ways. I'm not the GM, so I don't really know whether or not he felt the suitcase was an unbalancing item.

And the number of wolves is dependent on the number of players. Maybe they had a cultist, maybe the GM thought having the suitcase was too much so he made only a few wolves.
While this is certainly possible (and probable, see my reasoning behind only one pack), an odd number of wolves? When was the last time you saw that in a big WW game?

I really don't know, as I have only scanned two baddies so far (and one false positive).

Hmmm...........

If Ahura was active, how come we don't have a spokesperson for him? Surely he was scanning every night. I see why you would out yourself, but.......oh my head hurts. This whole game makes such little sense.
 
That is possible, but if you are lucky enough to kill both seers with one blast, I would just give them the win.


This goes both ways. I'm not the GM, so I don't really know whether or not he felt the suitcase was an unbalancing item.


While this is certainly possible (and probable, see my reasoning behind only one pack), an odd number of wolves? When was the last time you saw that in a big WW game?



Hmmm...........

If Ahura was active, how come we don't have a spokesperson for him? Surely he was scanning every night. I see why you would out yourself, but.......oh my head hurts. This whole game makes such little sense.
Last time I saw an odd number of wolves was in the Christmas game last year.

Yes, it is possible. I don't know why you find the idea of an odd number of wolves so strange. :confused:

And what is with that "Hmm..."?

EDIT: I hate people who edit. Maybe Ahura hadn't scanned a baddie, so there was no reason to come out to say anything yet. I was not in contact with him.
 
I'm late, have to go. Be back before deadline.
 
If Ahura was active, how come we don't have a spokesperson for him? Surely he was scanning every night. I see why you would out yourself, but.......oh my head hurts.
I always figured Ahura must have kept scanning innocent villagers, who were never up for being lynched, and so he decided not to out himself, and the plotters got lucky with taking him out, or he been detected by their sorcerer

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EDIT: I hate people who edit.

Ironically enough........:p
 
Last time I saw an odd number of wolves was in the Christmas game last year.

Yes, it is possible. I don't know why you find the idea of an odd number of wolves so strange. :confused:
Maybe because I'm new and have only seen 4 wolves in the lite game, and 6 wolves in the big game.

And what is with that "Hmm..."?
It is called thinking before you post. :p

EDIT: I hate people who edit. Maybe Ahura hadn't scanned a baddie, so there was no reason to come out to say anything yet. I was not in contact with him.
1. There is that irony word again.

2. Would you rather me edit, or double and triple post all the time?

3. In a game so small with so many baddies, I find it unlikely that he only scanned goodies.

4. If you have only scanned two baddies, who were the two goodies you scanned?

and the plotters got lucky with taking him out, or he been detected by their sorcerer
Or it was just a lucky shot. But I agree with you. I think the baddie sorcs are getting really good scans. They killed the SSeer and the GA.