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1.27 Poland and Romania; Feedback for provinces

Mingmung · 2018-09-19T19:03:27+00:00

Hello there, Some feedback for Poland and Romania. If the devs want a more 'correct' Poland/Romania (at least one without mistakes), then they could just copy this work. I took great care to place the towns in the correct locations, I mainly used Google Maps for this, but also historical maps like these ones: - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Podział_administracyjny_I_RP.png - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Partitions_of_Moldavia.jpg - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Tara_Romaneasca_judete_1601-1718.svg #1 Notec: The Notec is a Polish river, it doesn't make sense as a province-name. The Prussians used the German name (Netze) for a district there when they conquered it, but the Polish never did. The current capital of this province is Notec (it was Bydgoszcz before, but this city isn't located here, but in the province of Inowroclaw), but the Notec is a river, as mentioned earlier. The capital and province-name should be Naklo (nad Notecia). Sources: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netze_District - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakło_nad_Notecią - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noteć #2 Inowroclaw: The current capital of Inowroclaw is Inowroclaw (2), but the location is actually that of Bydgoszcz (1). The position of the town of Inowroclaw should be changed to the correct one (2). #3 Kujawy: The capital of Kujawy is currently Wloclawek (2), but it's actually in the incorrect position and should arguably be Brzesc-Kujawski (1), which was the seat of the voivodeship. So, I suggest renaming the capital to the latter and placing it in the correct spot. #4 Tarnow: The capital is still in the location of another city; Rzeszow. I moved it to the correct location. #5 Przemysl: Moved the capital of Przemysl (1) a little bit. Also took off a chunk of the province itself and gave it to Lwów. Drohobycz (2) is actually located within the confines of this province instead of its own province. #6 Lwów: The capital-city isn't located within the current province. Moved the capital to the correct location right beneath the town of Belz. Had to chip away a bit of Przemysl to do this. Source: - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Podział_administracyjny_I_RP.png #7 Halicz: Renamed this province to Halicz and moved the city a bit to the right position. This is currently still the province of Drohobycz, but that town wasn't located here. #8 Kolomyja: Kind of the same situation as the one above; Renamed this province to Kolomyja and moved the city a bit to the right position. This is currently still the province of Halicz, but that town wasn't located here. Also took a bit off this province and gave it to Suceava (Moldavia), as the important town of Cernauti isn't even located there currently. It was incorrectly drawn in the basegame of EU4. The town of Kolomyja was sometimes contested between the Polish kings and the Moldavian voivodes. Sources: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolomyia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernivtsi [/SPOILER] #1 Severin: Took a small bite away around the river for Ottoman-controlled Vidin. Otherwise, nothing has changed. #2 Craiova: The current name (Oltenia) makes no sense if the historical area has been split into two provinces (one of which is Severin). So, renamed it to Craiova, its capital. Also moved the town a little bit. #3 Tirgoviste: Nothing has changed. #4 Ilfov/Bucuresti: Modern-day Romania does indeed have a country which is called Giurgiu and the town/stronghold did indeed exist and was of importance on the Danube. Only one slight problem here; it was conquered by the Ottomans around 1417, to control traffic on the Danube. I'd personally change the capital and name to Bucharest. Vlasca or Ilfov might be better names for the province itself, though, with Bucharest as capital. I know it didn't exist yet, but so have more cities in EU4 (like Sulimaniyeh in the Kurdistan region). Bucharest is more than important enough to warrant some attention, it even has its own mission. Anyway, Giurgiu makes zero sense and is a modern mistake. Sources: - https://www.britannica.com/place/Giurgiu-Romania - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Tara_Romaneasca_judete_1601-1718.svg #5 Buzau: The location of the city itself is plain wrong, so fixed that. #6 Suceava: Moved it to the right spot and took a chunk away from Kolomyja (already talked about above). Terrain should be woodlands or hills and it definetely needs some dynamic province-names. #7 Iasi: Changed the shape to fit the historical divisions more, as well as the partitions. The city had to be moved to the correct location, too. The province is now entirely on the right bank of the Prut river. #8 Birlad: It's name could use a slight change, namely to Bârlad. Only bit a little part of it and gave it to Iasi. Its current dynamic province-names are still the same as the ones the old EU4-province of Moldava had. #9 Tighina: Elongated it a bit and gave its 'capital' (stronghold of Bender/Tighina) the correct spot on the map. #10 Basarabia: Moved the capital of Chilia to the correct position, as well as cutting the province at the Danube-delta to make way for an Ottoman-controlled Dobruja/Tolcu province. Terrain-types (especially in Romania) and dynamic province-names (which are entirely lacking for all new provinces here) should be looked at in general, as well as the data for later start-dates. If you guys need more info/sources on those issues, I can provide that. Although it shouldn't be hard to find on the internet. EDIT: Drohiczyn, Dobrzyn and Poznan have been fixed in the past few months.

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Start date Sep 19, 2018

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DDRJake

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Oct 1, 2018

While we like these suggestions, they came in a bit too late to make it into the 1.27 Update (where time was unusually tight due to the GDPR update we had to do). We'll be looking to see about putting them into a future update.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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