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America is too attractive. Spain doesn't bother starting colonization of Philippines before Incas are conquered and South America almost fulled with TPs/colonies.

What really heps Netherlands is forming from Spain and getting all the maps. Next step is inheritance of Ternate...

Could we continue in AI thread? We are not discussing real bugs here.
 
After reading Papal CrusadAARs:
Code:
#(1773) The Dissolution of Societas Jesu
event = {
	id = 251027
	random = no
	country = PAP
	name = "EVENTNAME[COLOR=Red]3547[/COLOR][COLOR=Yellow]251027[/COLOR]" #The [COLOR=Red]Foundation[/COLOR][COLOR=Yellow]dissolution[/COLOR] of Societas Jesu
	desc = "EVENTHIST3547"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1773 }
	offset = 200
	deathdate = { day = 5 month = august year = 1773 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME251027A" #Break up the order
		command = { type = colonists value = -6 }
		command = { type = missionaries value = -6 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = POR value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME251027B" #I[COLOR=Red]n[/COLOR]gnore the pressures
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = POR value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
		command = { type = diplomats value = -6 }
	}
}
#-#In 1540 Pope Paulus III recognized the Jesuite Order, created 1534 by the Spaniard Don Iñigo López de Recalade, better know as Ignatius of Loyola. He becomes one of the most devoted counter reformists and enemy #1 of the protestant movement. Loyola having a soldier background makes its mark on the order, which is organized almost as an army. High priority was given both to educating missionaries but also counselors for European royal courts. This made the Jesuite order very powerful in the politic scene. 1773 the Jesuite order was dissolved by Pope Pius VI due to pressure from Christian countries in the age of enlightenment. 1814 the Jesuite order was reinstituted, however just as a faint shadow of the powerful order it once had been.


Maybe description could be enhanced too.
 
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Third Angel said:
Would anyone care to explain how these are bugs?
They are just entries in Bugs thread, not real bugs (this is why name of the chapter is "don't know what to do").

Some of the questions have an answer now but not all.
 
Condition for this event is not precise enough:
Code:
#(1790-1820) French Refugees in the Caribbean
event = {
	id = 285254
	trigger = {
		[COLOR=Red]event = 12113 #FRA: The Night of the Ancien Régime[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 151 data = -1 } #Tobago & Trinidad
		OR = {
			event = 3342 #FRA: French Revolution: Radical Republic
			event = 3779 #FRA: French Revolution: Republican Monarchy
		}
		NOT = {
			event = 3785
			event = 3786
			event = 3787
			event = 3788
			event = 3789
		} #FRA: The Restoration of the Monarchy (in France)
		OR = { #Any Carribean province owned by France but not Tobago & Trinidad
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 137 data = FRA } #Havana
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 137 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 138 data = FRA } #Moron
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 138 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 139 data = FRA } #Guantanamo
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 139 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 140 data = FRA } #Jamaica
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 140 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 141 data = FRA } #Les Cayes
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 141 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 142 data = FRA } #Tortuga
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 142 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 143 data = FRA } #Barahona
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 143 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 144 data = FRA } #Puerto Rico
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 144 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 145 data = FRA } #St. Thomas
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 145 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 146 data = FRA } #St. Martin
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 146 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 147 data = FRA } #Antigua
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 147 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 148 data = FRA } #Dominica
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 137 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 149 data = FRA } #Guadeloupe
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 149 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 150 data = FRA } #Martinique
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 150 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 152 data = FRA } #Barbados
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 152 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 153 data = FRA } #Curacao
				NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 153 data = pagan } } #not a TP
			}
		}[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = SPA
	name = "EVENTNAME285254" #French Refugees in the Caribbean
	desc = "EVENTHIST285254"
	#-#

	date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1790 }
	offset = 300
	deathdate = { year = 1820 }

	action_a = {
		name = "EXCELLENT"
		command = { type = population which = 151 value = 2000 } #Trinidad
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 151 value = french } #Trinidad
		command = { type = provincetax which = 151 value = 2 } #Trinidad
	}
}
#-#Royalist refugees from the French possessions in the Caribbean fled to Trinidad to take advantage of the Spanish King's order to accept any and all settlers provided that they were Catholic and would swear an oath to himself. They were followed in short order by radical Jacobins fleeing the backlash for their earlier excesses and refugees from the slave revolt in Haiti. These Frenchmen outnumbered the Spanish and English settler together as late as 1803. They remained French at heart and were ready to deliver Trinidad to the French crown if war broke out. However the British garrison proved large enough to intimidate them into inaction.
 
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YodaMaster said:
They are just entries in Bugs thread, not real bugs (this is why name of the chapter is "don't know what to do").

Some of the questions have an answer now but not all.
I think the first post which only contains a comment about the Hurons, who do not exist anymore in AGCEEP, and a rant against Louis XIV, could at least be safely removed.

The second post only contains questions, and the OP is pointed towards regional threads to discuss his ideas. The post may be linked to in these threads if anyone is interested, instead of uselessly cluttering the Bugs thread. The only real bug there is the English core on Calais in 1648, but this has been solved, hasn't it?
 
Third Angel said:
I think the first post which only contains a comment about the Hurons, who do not exist anymore in AGCEEP, and a rant against Louis XIV, could at least be safely removed.
Only remaining problem is in fact culture definition of some provinces in province.csv:
92;Niagara;inland;exotic;iroquis
97;Oshawa;inland;exotic;iroquis

Shouldn't culture be huron instead?


Third Angel said:
The second post only contains questions, and the OP is pointed towards regional threads to discuss his ideas. The post may be linked to in these threads if anyone is interested, instead of uselessly cluttering the Bugs thread. The only real bug there is the English core on Calais in 1648, but this has been solved, hasn't it?
Yes => in red
 
YodaMaster said:
Only remaining problem is in fact culture definition of some provinces in province.csv:
92;Niagara;inland;exotic;iroquis
97;Oshawa;inland;exotic;iroquis

Shouldn't culture be huron instead?
I found this map about tribes. Pétuns and Neutrals are not specifically Hurons. Setup is right for both provinces without American tribes as countries.
 
USA as revolter?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5011882&postcount=886

I concur that the USA should only be revolting from England.

I also concur that revolts related to ahistorical colonization in north america (and historical/ahistorical colonization in latin america) should be addressed with a separate set of events.

Note, this item is embedded rather deep within the bug thread. It might be easier if a consolidated listing was made.
 
Consolidated list of Bugs

Excluding monarchs and leaders, please find below a listing of the remaining bugs. A rather short list I would say. Good job!!

Compilation of “Bugs in 1.42”, “Some remaining questions here:”, and “Bugs that are in the process of getting fixed:”
- Too long descriptions: EVENTHIST179900 and EVENTHIST2200023.
- Setup and events are all messed up for Butung.
- USA as revolter? Shouldn’t USA be able to form/revolt ONLY from England?
- 1419 scenario: Serbia as leader of alliance (id 33) with Hungary?
- 1520 scenario: Luxury Manufactory (Ulugh Beg’s Observatory) is missing in Samarkand (1592). WAD?
- 1648 scenario: Is setup correct for provinces in RussiaInMongolia events?
- 1648 scenario: What about shipyard in Jakarta, historical?
- 1648 scenario: Problem with Netherlands? Holland has not yet discovered many provinces where she has colonies (the northern coast of South America, the US east coast, Indonesia). Additionally, Holland does not have Frisian culture.
 
GeneralSnoopy said:
A rather short list I would say. Good job!!
Only known issues... we "discover" bugs every day. ;)

GeneralSnoopy said:
- Setup and events are all messed up for Butung.
There is only one event for Butung currently and first "monarch" is from 1419 to 1812... From here, we have the list of the rulers but not always precise.
About involved province, see here for Salabanka (709).
GeneralSnoopy said:
Additionally, Holland does not have Frisian culture.
Can be removed. Frisian culture isn't used anymore.
 
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Code:
#(1447) Philip the Good requests the Lotharingian crown
event = {
	id = 28005 #triggered by BUR_28004 A
	random = no
	country = HAB #should be HEI
	name = "EVENTNAME28005" #Philip the Good requests the Lotharingian crown
	desc = "EVENTHIST28005"
#-#After the death of Louis the Pious in 840 the Carolingian Empire was divided between his three sons. Two of these Kingdoms would survive to become France and the Holy Roman Empire. The third Kingdom, Lothairingia, dwindled and, was upon the death in 900 of King Zwentibold in 900 was absorbed into Germany. Twice during his reign Philip the Good requested from Emperor Frederick III the vacant crown of Lotharingia.

Also, should it really be Frederick III? The monarch file names him Frederick V.
 
Mats_SX said:
Code:
#(1447) Philip the Good requests the Lotharingian crown
event = {
	id = 28005 #triggered by BUR_28004 A
	random = no
	country = HAB #should be HEI
	name = "EVENTNAME28005" #Philip the Good requests the Lotharingian crown
	desc = "EVENTHIST28005"
#-#After the death of Louis the Pious in 840 the Carolingian Empire was divided between his three sons. Two of these Kingdoms would survive to become France and the Holy Roman Empire. The third Kingdom, Lothairingia, dwindled and, was upon the death in 900 of King Zwentibold in 900 was absorbed into Germany. Twice during his reign Philip the Good requested from Emperor Frederick III the vacant crown of Lotharingia.

Also, should it really be Frederick III? The monarch file names him Frederick V.
Well Emperor Karl V is Karl I in Austria.

An issue would be: when the sequence starts with BUR_28004 or 28007 or 137049, shouldn't we also test if HAB is emperor = yes in HAB_28008 and 179123?

AFAIK with current setup for Austrian monarchs being almost always emperors in the first 70 years of game, the probability for this event to happen is indeed higher...
 
Bordic said:
Well Emperor Karl V is Karl I in Austria.

An issue would be: when the sequence starts with BUR_28004 or 28007 or 137049, shouldn't we also test if HAB is emperor = yes in HAB_28008 and 179123?

From what I've seen, many events that have something to do with relations with the Emperor consider that HAB is the Emperor without checking.
 
Code:
#(1463) Inheritance of Styria
event = {
	id = 179002 #triggered by PRM_261000 A / PRM_261001 A / TYR_322014 A
	random = no
	country = HAB
	name = "EVENTNAME179002" #Austria inherits Styria
	desc = "EVENTHIST179002"
#-#In december 1463 Duke Albert of Styria died childlessly. Despite their former conflicts, he let his brother, eEmperor Friedrich V.III, who was thus able to unite Styria and Krain with Austria, inherit all his possessions.inherit, enabling Friedrich to unite Styria and Krain with Austria.

Code:
	action_a = {
		name = "GREAT"
		command = { type = inherit which = PRM }
		command = { type = addcore which = 367 } #Krain
		command = { type = addcore which = 369 } #Steiermark
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 055813 } #Baumkircher (HAB)
	}
}

Since he is called Emperor, he should go with "III", right? The alternative would be "Archduke Friedrich V", or am I mistaken?
 
Code:
#(1493) Move to Innsbruck (all options)
event = {
	id = 179113
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 351 data = -1 } #Austria
		control = { province = 351 data = -1 } #Austria
		owned = { province = 327 data = -1 } #Ostmarch
		control = { province = 327 data = -1 } #Ostmarch
		owned = { province = 371 data = -1 } #Tirol
		control = { province = 371 data = -1 } #Tirol
		owned = { province = 369 data = -1 } #Styria
		control = { province = 369 data = -1 } #Styria
	}
	random = no
	country = HAB
	name = "EVENTNAME179113" #Maximilian's residence
	desc = "EVENTHIST179113"
#-#Having inherited Tyrol from the childless Sigismund, Maximilian instantly lovedfell in love with the country and the city of Innsbruck. He called it 'a 'peasant's garb that keeps me warm'. The mountains, the abundance of game and the beautiful nature always attracted him to Tyrol where he used to hunt or go climbing in the Alps. Innsbruck became the center of his Empire and his new administrative institutions. It was also turned into a center of arts, with the painter Albrecht Dürer, the moulders Stefan Godl, Peter Fischer and Peter Löffler and the architect and sculpturer Nikolaus Türing working there for the emperor. Trade between Italy and Germany was directed through Innsbruck, which became also the economic center of Austria and Southern Germany during Maximilian's reign. Exploiting the vast iron ressources of Tyrol, cannons and other weapons were produced in the new gun foundries in Mühlau and Büchsenhausen. The arsenal in Sill near Innsbruck became the one of the biggest in Europe.
 
Code:
#(1590-1591) The stone bridge of Rialto
#by Bordic based on an idea of lawkeeper
event = {
	id = 326057
	random = no
	country = VEN
	name = "EVENTNAME326057" #The stone bridge of Rialto
	desc = "EVENTHIST326057"
#-#Until the XIIIth century Venice was built on a groups of islands separated by channels. To get on the other side wood boards connecting opposite sides of the channels were laid down.Access across the bodies of water was enabled through the installation of wooden planks. LaterAs time passed, many bridges were builtconstructed in Venice, but no onenone of them joiningconnecting the banks of the Grand Canal's banks. This was a big problem for the city so that population was always teasing the High Council about it and so a wooden bridge was realized to link both banks of the Grand Canal in Rialto, the heart of the city.This was a rather big problem for the city, and the population would always tease the High Council about it. To prevent the humiliation, a wooden bridge across the Grand Canal was set up in Rialto, in the heart of Venice, named La Pónt. However, upkeep costs were high due to frequent restorations of the partially-submerged, rapidly rotting, structure and in 1524 collapsed La Pónt. To solve this problem the High Council decided to call in some of the best architects of that periodin all of Italy: Andrea Palladio eand Vincenzo Scamozzi. Common idea of both famous architects was to build a bridges with three big arches finishing in the central part of it with a kettledrum sustained by huge columns.Both architects presented drawings of a bridge featuring three great arches, all ending in the centre of the bridge, where a kettledrum sustained by huge columns was to be installed. In spite of the great fame of both architects and the magnificence of their plans won a project by Antonio da Ponte would win. His suggestion was who thought a unicunique arch bridge, 48 meters long and, 22 meters wide, and high enough to allow boats to pass under, and that was immediately distinguished by Palladio's majestic project. FoundationConstruction was started in the 1588, and it took some years to finally join the opposite parts of the Grand Canal, and substitute the previous wooden bridge, known as La Pónt, which collapsed in 1524 and was immortalized in the painting by Vittore Carpaccio 'The Healing of the Obsessed'. finally replacing La Pónt, who would only live on in Vittore Carpaccio's famous painting 'The Healing of the Obsessed'.


You were right, Lord Grave, it was a challenge! :D
However, I will need clarification of the wheat part, where I can not figure out what is meant by "distinguishing" a rival's drawing. Possibly, a word like "surpassing" or "outdoing" could replace it. That will however give a completely new meaning to the sentence, and I'm unsure if that is what it's supposed to mean.

Complete new text, with additions:

#-#Until the XIIIth century Venice was built on a group of islands separated by channels. Access across the bodies of water was enabled through the installation of wooden planks. As time passed, many bridges were constructed in Venice, but none connecting the banks of the Grand Canal. This was a rather big problem for the city, and the population would always tease the High Council about it. To prevent the humiliation, a wooden bridge across the Grand Canal was set up in Rialto, in the heart of Venice, named La Pónt. However, upkeep costs were high due to frequent restorations of the partially submerged, rapidly rotting, and in 1524 collapsed La Pónt. To solve this problem the High Council decided to call in some of the best architects in all of Italy: Andrea Palladio and Vincenzo Scamozzi. Both architects presented drawings of a bridge featuring three great arches, all ending in the centre of the bridge, where a kettledrum sustained by huge columns was to be installed. In spite of the great fame of both architects and the magnificence of their plans a project by Antonio da Ponte would win. His suggestion was a unique arch bridge, 48 meters long, 22 meters wide, and high enough to allow boats to pass under, and that was immediately distinguished by Palladio's majestic project. Construction was started in 1588, and it took some years to finally join the opposite parts of the Grand Canal, finally replacing La Pónt, who would only live on in Vittore Carpaccio's famous painting 'The Healing of the Obsessed'.
 
Lord Grave said:
From what I've seen, many events that have something to do with relations with the Emperor consider that HAB is the Emperor without checking.
Maybe we will be able to easily have events for the Emperor, whatever country... soon.

Mats_SX said:
#-#In december 1463 Duke Albert of Styria died childlessly. Despite their former conflicts, he let his brother, eEmperor Friedrich V.III, who was thus able to unite Styria and Krain with Austria, inherit all his possessions.inherit, enabling Friedrich to unite Styria and Krain with Austria.
Since Friedrich is spelled in German here, it should be Friedrich III. (with a dot after the number => "der Dritte", the third in German).

Mats_SX said:
and that was immediately distinguished by Palladio's majestic project.

However, I will need clarification of the wheat part, where I can not figure out what is meant by "distinguishing" a rival's drawing. Possibly, a word like "surpassing" or "outdoing" could replace it. That will however give a completely new meaning to the sentence, and I'm unsure if that is what it's supposed to mean.
According to this article, I suppose "by" was not the right word neither. It means that the project was "better" than Palladio's one and thus more remarkable (could Bordic confirm?).