GRRRRRR..........
anyway "southern ming" i discover by mistake (had to reload as them to end an endless war) has more the 17 millions cash :rofl:
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GRRRRRR..........
anyway "southern ming" i discover by mistake (had to reload as them to end an endless war) has more the 17 millions cash :rofl:
When is the most recent save game that they don't have $16 million in? Did they have a lot of bank loans?
I know this isn't an AGCEEP bug, but I've never seen it happen before and I'd like a closer look.
I know this isn't an AGCEEP bug, but I've never seen it happen before and I'd like a closer look.
I did but always too late... It is easy to find out when a country starts to build shipyards and covering provinces with fortresses and manufactories...MichaelM said:
In the ToDo list anyway.
YodaMaster said:
yes indeed
. BUT i have not seen it for a LONG time, ESPECIALLY in agceep i THINK that millions happened becouse manchu became china owning only the north provinces and sothern ming annexed the "old" southern china. how exactlly, no idea, but ALSO seems it got latin tech( or maybe inverting in technology as soon as possible eery time). the bug creates very bad behavious becouse it had maximum forst everywhere...you know what happens then
MichaelM said:
no bank loans, and can not tell becouse i did not mind china area until 1750's when reaching gujarat and see the mess it has coused. but no loans that i noticed, and HIGH tech( like it became latin tech OR becouse "investing " the 200$ every time poassible). muste have been like that possiblly since manchu became china BUT southern ming NEVER got annexed.
i am SURE this bug is only for southern ming nation . this is the ONLY time i see it "survive" the 1650's china "break-up"
. to make sure just load and play as "southern ming".... when it is becoming "selectable". becouse i never seen THIS bug in agceep before( well at least in the last couple of years i guess), i am inclined to think there is something else going on here
No, I saw it for other countries. It must appear as an overflow when there is an operation on a number that is not supposed to become negative. Instead of -1, result is +16,777,216.beregic said:i am SURE this bug is only for southern ming nation . this is the ONLY time i see it "survive" the 1650's china "break-up"
Which is why I was hoping for save games. It's hard to track down a bug one has never seen.YodaMaster said:
It's unclear to me if there is really ever an object in that statement.MichaelM said:
WELL in the same game, EXACT thing happens to england( 23 millions). note there are no LOANS in her stats, and i think that this is the very FIRST TIME i see TWO nations having the exact same problem.
not sure if this helps but i am playing as "itally". no personal modifications at all this game except for reloads from time to time; this is very odd and i would not be surprised if i find more as such minors with maximum forst
not sure if this helps but i am playing as "itally". no personal modifications at all this game except for reloads from time to time; this is very odd and i would not be surprised if i find more as such minors with maximum forst
YodaMaster said:
i guess that was an example? since "my" england got 223 millions cash...late 1750's
I play from 1648 and for China there's no hope to upgrade to infra 5.
And I can never make negotiation with Netherland(on Taiwan)
As now it is 1771
Indian Nations have land tech 44 when European 50, but Poland and Moldova only 31.
Yoda that's in my savegame you can check it.
And I can never make negotiation with Netherland(on Taiwan)
As now it is 1771
Indian Nations have land tech 44 when European 50, but Poland and Moldova only 31.
Yoda that's in my savegame you can check it.
kevinxu said:
thats the 40 inflation china starts with i bet, implemented becouse "balance" issues i guess; truth is china ai overuns everyone but just increasing inflation helps nobody; instead the china AI should be toned down in its agressivness files.
No, this wasn't an example but plausible problem with signed integer values in code. 223 millions is another story... Thanks for the information. I never saw such very high value (at least never above 16 millions).beregic said:
@beregic: AI Chinese aggressiveness is already very low (-100) unless during civil war.
Aggressiveness has nothing to do with tech race. Without high inflation (realistic for Ming and Southern Ming), China could lead the tech race without any problem in all domains because Chinese provinces are very rich.
@kevinxu: difference between Orthodox tech group and Muslim tech group (most of India in 1648) is low. Indian countries start at around 22 in 1648 when Orthodox start at around 25 and Western countries at around 27. But Orthodox tech group is tiny and there is not much bonus inside it... while Russia will leave it after westernization.
About negociation, it is impossible if capital is unknown and China doesn't know location of the capital of all the colonial powers that are present in Chinese known part of the map. Do you mean Southern Ming and China (Manchus) should know corresponding European capitals? To be discussed in China thread.
Aggressiveness has nothing to do with tech race. Without high inflation (realistic for Ming and Southern Ming), China could lead the tech race without any problem in all domains because Chinese provinces are very rich.
@kevinxu: difference between Orthodox tech group and Muslim tech group (most of India in 1648) is low. Indian countries start at around 22 in 1648 when Orthodox start at around 25 and Western countries at around 27. But Orthodox tech group is tiny and there is not much bonus inside it... while Russia will leave it after westernization.
About negociation, it is impossible if capital is unknown and China doesn't know location of the capital of all the colonial powers that are present in Chinese known part of the map. Do you mean Southern Ming and China (Manchus) should know corresponding European capitals? To be discussed in China thread.
i dont know is it bug or something but ive got this message: 'Critical error! Attepting to create a monarch with a leader- id(32034) that is already used. -- Do still want to continue?'
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It can happen in China-Manchu Qing sequence. This is a problem when a country changes tag but already uses existing leaders/monarchs from a previous tag change. Just press Ignore button.
Looks like 1520 file for Sus wasn't updated.
Code:
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ai = "SmallTrade1.ai"
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major = no
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treasury = 99
inflation = 0
merchants = 0.083333
religion = { type = sunni }
culture = {
type = berber
}
diplomacy = {
relation = { tag = MOR value = -100 refusetrade = no }
relation = { tag = KNI value = -200 refusetrade = no }
relation = { tag = TUR value = -100 refusetrade = no }
}
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}
ownedprovinces = {
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controlledprovinces = {
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}
nationalprovinces = {
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}
city = {
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location = 805
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capital = yes
}
city = {
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population = 3000
location = 1595
bailiff = yes
}
landunit = {
id = { type = 9423 id = 491 }
[color=red]name = "Army of Fez"[/color]
[color=yellow]name = "Army of Sus"[/color]
location = 805
infantry = 5000
cavalry = 7000
artillery = 0
}
technology = {
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infra = { level = 1 value = 50 }
trade = { level = 1 value = 150 }
land = { level = 7 value = 500 }
naval = { level = 2 value = 100 }
}
}
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------