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I'm surprised that Welsh culture still exists. Andalusian culture also seems to be rather successful, despite the political entities that have occupied it's traditional regions for centuries. I guess it's also a little weird how the british islands is of English culture, but all their colonies seem to be Cosmpolitaine. I suppose that represents its French Kings, but I thought the current ruling dynasty wasn't french at all?
About the UPCA - what type of government does it have?
About the UPCA - what type of government does it have?
@Xenophon13, Bohemia is currently Emperor, so its force limits are high.
@Etzel Hoveri, Hungary has not westernized and is not likely to based on its sliders. Its land tech is 32. Frankfurt's is 44, but to be fair that's the highest of any of the major countries, even Leinster and Etruria are only 43.
@DC, Byzantium started minting during the Hundred Years War and probably never stopped. Its inflation was already over 50% in 1645. I'm more surprised that Denmark has hit 70% inflation.
@Machiavellian, ruling culture doesn't change with the dynasty. The ruling culture of England was French at the start and it virtually never changes in EU3 (there is an accept cultural shift decision, but I've never seen the AI use it). The UPCA is a Revolutionary Republic.
@Etzel Hoveri, Hungary has not westernized and is not likely to based on its sliders. Its land tech is 32. Frankfurt's is 44, but to be fair that's the highest of any of the major countries, even Leinster and Etruria are only 43.
@DC, Byzantium started minting during the Hundred Years War and probably never stopped. Its inflation was already over 50% in 1645. I'm more surprised that Denmark has hit 70% inflation.
@Machiavellian, ruling culture doesn't change with the dynasty. The ruling culture of England was French at the start and it virtually never changes in EU3 (there is an accept cultural shift decision, but I've never seen the AI use it). The UPCA is a Revolutionary Republic.
Well, nothing lasts forever. No nation can be a world power indefinitely (unless it's controlled by a futuristic, unaging being from another reality with the ability to warp time at the click of a mous- err I mean the player
).
Seems like the real leader is Frankfurt with the fourth largest army as well as the most advanced, along with being the second wealthiest.
INDIA AND SOUTHEAST ASIA, 1769-1790
The last century had been a peaceful one in India. After Bihar defeated Vijayanagar in 1650, the two rivals found themselves forced to ally together in order to fend off a series of attacks by England and Etruria in the late 17th century. Though the two nations could not be said to be friendly thereafter, both had chosen to pursue ambitions outside the subcontinent. Vijayanagar had won possessions spanning from East Africa to Indochina and Korea, expanded westward into the Middle East at the expense of the Byzantines, while Bihar had concentrated on their immediate neighbors to the east.
But by the middle of the 18th century, Vijayanagar was no longer fearful of renewed conflict with Bihar; in fact, they courted it with an embargo against the Bihari merchants and a new alliance with Bihar’s enemies in Taungu. Even so, with Vijayanagar ruled by a regency council and still embroiled in pacifying the Khivan Mongols in 1769, King Ibrahim II Ganesha did not anticipate armed conflict with their southern rivals.
India and Southeast Asia in 1769:
Ibrahim expected little resistance when he declared war on Tibet in 1769, seeking to secure the high passes to the riches of China. There was a loose alliance chain that connected Tibet to other Buddhist nations in southeast Asia, but Taungu, Pegu and Khmer lacked the manpower to trouble the populous Bihari state. Unfortunately for him, despite its other engagements, Vijayanagar chose to honor its alliance with Taungu, and persuaded the Punjabi and Manchurians to join in the conflict. Ibrahim found himself fighting on two fronts, and in the west, he was outnumbered. The only bright spot was that Malacca and the other muslim states had decided to make another attempt to expand northward into Indochina, so his Buddhist enemies were also engaged on both fronts.
As a result, things went well in the east and before the summer monsoon hit, he had taken the province of U-Tsang from Tibet and by late summer, Taungu and its allies were willing to make peace. But in the west, Punjab and Vijayanagar had routed his forces at the Battle of Indravati and one stronghold after another had fallen on the plateau. The following year, he was forced to sign a treaty surrendering control of a vast swath of Central India to Vijayanagar. The Punjabi demanded gold and the freeing of the Orissan nation. Bihar had traded a few alpine valleys in the north for practically all its holdings on the Deccan plateau, a terrible bargain. It was small comfort to him that his enemies in the east had fared poorly in their own war and the muslim states had secured almost the entire Malay peninsula.
India and Southeast Asia in 1772:
Undeterred by this disaster, Ibrahim II decided to expand his eastern possessions by attacking Dai Viet in 1775. By this time, he had secured an alliance with the powerful Wu Empire, thinking it would deter an attack from the South. The Dai Viet were part of the Buddhist alliance which was friendly with Ming, but he judged that the Ming Empire would be Wu’s problem to deal with, not his. And he had no fear of Tibet, which he forced to cede its last province in the east in 1777, securing solid land communications with his Wu friends.
But the war with the other Buddhist nations dragged on inconclusively until 1779, and he made no significant progress in Indochina. In 1781, King Bhag II Granth, secure in the knowledge that its allies in Gakwar, Orissa and most importantly, King Vijaya IV Tuluva would support him, decided to attack Bihar before it had time to fully recover its strength. Though he was able to seize control of the interior of Orissa before the rains came, the Vijayanagarans came upon him in force the following dry season and defeated him once again. This time they demanded a province on the north side of the Ganges, interfering with Bihar’s control of the river traffic, and the creation of another small buffer state Bundelkhand.
However, King Bhag foolishly decided to continue the war even after his powerful ally had made peace. He was unable to advance very far to the west before the Biharis had recruited and trained a new army. After a crushing defeat in 1785, the Punjabi gave up the Upper Indus valley to their enemies, and agreed to void their treaty with Vijayanagar.
Despite the defeat of Punjab, Bihar’s forces had still not recovered fully from the war with Vijayanagar. The island of Ceylon took advantage of the destruction of Bihar’s fleet and declared independence. King Thaminhatau III Yuan of Taungu sought to take advantage of this vulnerability and regain the Buddhist lands of eastern Bihar. Unfortunately, only the other small Buddhist states stood with him when he declared war in 1788. Anwan Holkar of Wu was allied with both Bihar and Taungu and stayed neutral, and if he hoped for help from powerful Vijayanagar once again he was worse than disappointed. Rather than breaking his truce with Bihar, King Vijaya IV chose to pursue his interests in Indochina and joined his Hindu brethren in the conflict. It took little more than a year for the Buddhists to be crushed, and Vijayanagar greatly expanded its holdings in the east at the expense of Khmer. He also increased the fragmentation of the Buddhist states by forcing the Khmer to free the Laotian peoples of Lan Xang.
India and Southeast Asia, 1790:
Thus, in 1790, with Bihar defeated, China divided and Byzantium declining, King Vijaya IV seemed to rule the mightiest realm in Asia, and the dominant force in the Indian Ocean. But the Europeans were beginning to expand their interests in the East, a development which would bear watching. Although they had left India alone since the 17th century, Sibir had reached the Pacific, and many of the primitive tribes on the islands had vallen under the sway of England, Denmark and other European nations. Norway, Hungary, and Austria had all assailed the Muslim states of the South in recent years. Thus far, they still appeared incapable of transporting large forces into the region, but their fearsome technology worried Vijaya IV. His own people now fought with muskets and culverins copied from those the English had fought with in the 17th century, but rumor said the Europeans had far deadlier weapons now. But at least for the time being, Vijayanagar remained the supreme power in Asia.
The last century had been a peaceful one in India. After Bihar defeated Vijayanagar in 1650, the two rivals found themselves forced to ally together in order to fend off a series of attacks by England and Etruria in the late 17th century. Though the two nations could not be said to be friendly thereafter, both had chosen to pursue ambitions outside the subcontinent. Vijayanagar had won possessions spanning from East Africa to Indochina and Korea, expanded westward into the Middle East at the expense of the Byzantines, while Bihar had concentrated on their immediate neighbors to the east.
But by the middle of the 18th century, Vijayanagar was no longer fearful of renewed conflict with Bihar; in fact, they courted it with an embargo against the Bihari merchants and a new alliance with Bihar’s enemies in Taungu. Even so, with Vijayanagar ruled by a regency council and still embroiled in pacifying the Khivan Mongols in 1769, King Ibrahim II Ganesha did not anticipate armed conflict with their southern rivals.
India and Southeast Asia in 1769:
Ibrahim expected little resistance when he declared war on Tibet in 1769, seeking to secure the high passes to the riches of China. There was a loose alliance chain that connected Tibet to other Buddhist nations in southeast Asia, but Taungu, Pegu and Khmer lacked the manpower to trouble the populous Bihari state. Unfortunately for him, despite its other engagements, Vijayanagar chose to honor its alliance with Taungu, and persuaded the Punjabi and Manchurians to join in the conflict. Ibrahim found himself fighting on two fronts, and in the west, he was outnumbered. The only bright spot was that Malacca and the other muslim states had decided to make another attempt to expand northward into Indochina, so his Buddhist enemies were also engaged on both fronts.
As a result, things went well in the east and before the summer monsoon hit, he had taken the province of U-Tsang from Tibet and by late summer, Taungu and its allies were willing to make peace. But in the west, Punjab and Vijayanagar had routed his forces at the Battle of Indravati and one stronghold after another had fallen on the plateau. The following year, he was forced to sign a treaty surrendering control of a vast swath of Central India to Vijayanagar. The Punjabi demanded gold and the freeing of the Orissan nation. Bihar had traded a few alpine valleys in the north for practically all its holdings on the Deccan plateau, a terrible bargain. It was small comfort to him that his enemies in the east had fared poorly in their own war and the muslim states had secured almost the entire Malay peninsula.
India and Southeast Asia in 1772:
Undeterred by this disaster, Ibrahim II decided to expand his eastern possessions by attacking Dai Viet in 1775. By this time, he had secured an alliance with the powerful Wu Empire, thinking it would deter an attack from the South. The Dai Viet were part of the Buddhist alliance which was friendly with Ming, but he judged that the Ming Empire would be Wu’s problem to deal with, not his. And he had no fear of Tibet, which he forced to cede its last province in the east in 1777, securing solid land communications with his Wu friends.
But the war with the other Buddhist nations dragged on inconclusively until 1779, and he made no significant progress in Indochina. In 1781, King Bhag II Granth, secure in the knowledge that its allies in Gakwar, Orissa and most importantly, King Vijaya IV Tuluva would support him, decided to attack Bihar before it had time to fully recover its strength. Though he was able to seize control of the interior of Orissa before the rains came, the Vijayanagarans came upon him in force the following dry season and defeated him once again. This time they demanded a province on the north side of the Ganges, interfering with Bihar’s control of the river traffic, and the creation of another small buffer state Bundelkhand.
However, King Bhag foolishly decided to continue the war even after his powerful ally had made peace. He was unable to advance very far to the west before the Biharis had recruited and trained a new army. After a crushing defeat in 1785, the Punjabi gave up the Upper Indus valley to their enemies, and agreed to void their treaty with Vijayanagar.
Despite the defeat of Punjab, Bihar’s forces had still not recovered fully from the war with Vijayanagar. The island of Ceylon took advantage of the destruction of Bihar’s fleet and declared independence. King Thaminhatau III Yuan of Taungu sought to take advantage of this vulnerability and regain the Buddhist lands of eastern Bihar. Unfortunately, only the other small Buddhist states stood with him when he declared war in 1788. Anwan Holkar of Wu was allied with both Bihar and Taungu and stayed neutral, and if he hoped for help from powerful Vijayanagar once again he was worse than disappointed. Rather than breaking his truce with Bihar, King Vijaya IV chose to pursue his interests in Indochina and joined his Hindu brethren in the conflict. It took little more than a year for the Buddhists to be crushed, and Vijayanagar greatly expanded its holdings in the east at the expense of Khmer. He also increased the fragmentation of the Buddhist states by forcing the Khmer to free the Laotian peoples of Lan Xang.
India and Southeast Asia, 1790:
Thus, in 1790, with Bihar defeated, China divided and Byzantium declining, King Vijaya IV seemed to rule the mightiest realm in Asia, and the dominant force in the Indian Ocean. But the Europeans were beginning to expand their interests in the East, a development which would bear watching. Although they had left India alone since the 17th century, Sibir had reached the Pacific, and many of the primitive tribes on the islands had vallen under the sway of England, Denmark and other European nations. Norway, Hungary, and Austria had all assailed the Muslim states of the South in recent years. Thus far, they still appeared incapable of transporting large forces into the region, but their fearsome technology worried Vijaya IV. His own people now fought with muskets and culverins copied from those the English had fought with in the 17th century, but rumor said the Europeans had far deadlier weapons now. But at least for the time being, Vijayanagar remained the supreme power in Asia.
Well, Vicky II will be interesting to watch if India remains independent. It'll also be interesting to see if Vij & Bihar will squabble over the name of India while the Europeans continue colonizing around them.
This could be a very interesting balance of power by the time we reach the Victoria II time period. A large, powerful state in India could definitely make things interesting, provided they do not fall too far behind European tech levels.
Is Gakwar a vassal/ally of Vijay or are their Indian holdings actually split in two?
India always frustrated me in EUIII.
British India was by far the richest colony of all time, and despite popular belief was far more important to Britain and British supremacy then their north american holdings (Americans like to think they are more important then they really are). Just once I want to see a European Empire conquer India, sadly I doubt it will happen any time soon.
I really hope they fix this for EUIV
British India was by far the richest colony of all time, and despite popular belief was far more important to Britain and British supremacy then their north american holdings (Americans like to think they are more important then they really are). Just once I want to see a European Empire conquer India, sadly I doubt it will happen any time soon.
I really hope they fix this for EUIV
If a Euro power gets a land border with the Indian subcontinent they tend to smash and grab. Its really the AI's awful ability in keeping revolts in check that causes problems. And if one of the countries that can found an EITC happen to be the land grabber then they can get the sweet event that gives a shitton of free cores. Sadly, by the late game the Euro alliance chains usually prevent a land grab and the last colonies are still being settled. And then there are the revolter states to draw attention away.
Gakwar is an ally but not a vassal of Vijayanagar. And no, Vijayanagar isn't westernizing...I'm not sure I've ever seen the A.I. westernize in EU3. It's not THAT far behind the Europeans in tech, but I've done some test conversions and it looks like it will be uncivilized in V2, whereas Mali will be partially westernized.
It's going to be very tricky to get the balance right for European conquest of India because it didn't happen in OTL until the very end of the time period. Having the Europeans conquer India in the 17th century would bother me more than it remaining independent to the end of the game, especially in a situation where there are powerful states in India. Part of the problem is that the "province model" where you have to capture an entire province to have a base doesn't reflect how the early colonization in Africa and the Far East worked.
It's going to be very tricky to get the balance right for European conquest of India because it didn't happen in OTL until the very end of the time period. Having the Europeans conquer India in the 17th century would bother me more than it remaining independent to the end of the game, especially in a situation where there are powerful states in India. Part of the problem is that the "province model" where you have to capture an entire province to have a base doesn't reflect how the early colonization in Africa and the Far East worked.