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I have found Turko-Semitic can spread fairly quickly in its own culture group as well as over the usual Greek and South Slavic cultures a standard EUIII Otto might hold. And then of course there is the special assimilation rate for Altaic by Russians (non-issue in your game, obviously).
 
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What's that lime green spot around-though-not-necessarily-in Mecca? Shia Islam? Then what's the darker spot at the end of the Arabian Peninsula? Or is that the same color as the Sunni in Indonesia and the Orthodox burnt orange is interfering with these old eyes?
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both darker greens are Sunni. Arabian one just appears darker (strangely, the one in Africa seems the brightest of the Sunni areas)
 
1821 Global Update, Part 5: Technology



Here are the 22 major players ranked by their tech levels:
Rank by Government Tech
1. Frankfurt 55
2. Leinster 51
3. Austria 45
4. Etruria 41
4. France 41
6. Castille 39
7. Bohemia 37
8. England 36
9. Sibir 36
10. Berry 35
11. Norway 34
11. Navarra 34
13. Denmark 33
14. Hungary 27
15. Funj 25
15. Mali 25
17. Byzantium 22
18. Vijayanagar 17
18. Wu 17
18. Ming 17
21. Bihar 16
22. Malacca 15

Rank by Production Tech
1. Frankfurt 66
1. Leinster 66
3. Castille 65
3. Austria 65
5. Bohemia 64
6. England 63
7. Navarra 62
7. Etruria 62
9. France 60
9. Berry 60
9. Sibir 60
12. Norway 59
13. Denmark 57
14. Hungary 35
15. Mali 31
16. Funj 29
17. Byzantium 26
18. Ming 22
19. Wu 20
20. Vijayanagar 19
20. Malacca 19
22. Bihar 17

Rank by Trade Tech
1. Frankfurt 56
2. Leinster 55
3. Bohemia 54
3. Castille 54
3. Etruria 54
6. Austria 53
6. England 53
6. France 53
9. Norway 51
9. Berry 51
9. Navarra 51
9. Sibir 51
13. Denmark 49
14. Hungary 31
15. Funj 27
16. Mali 25
17. Byzantium 22
17. Vijayanagar 22
19. Wu 16
19. Ming 16
21. Bihar 15
22. Malacca 14

Rank by Naval Tech
1. Frankfurt 57
1. Leinster 57
3. Austria 54
4. Etruria 53
4. Bohemia 53
4. France 53
4. England 53
4. Castille 53
9. Navarra 52
10. Berry 51
10. Norway 51
10. Denmark 51
10. Sibir 51
14. Hungary 33
15. Mali 30
16. Funj 28
17. Byzantium 25
18. Vijayanagar 20
19. Bihar 17
19. Ming 17
19. Wu 17
19. Malacca 17

Rank by Land Tech
1. Frankfurt 60
2. Leinster 59
3. England 57
3. Castille 57
3. Austria 57
6. Bohemia 56
6. France 56
8. Navarra 54
8. Etruria 54
8. Sibir 54
11. Berry 53
11. Norway 53
13. Denmark 52
14. Hungary 42
15. Mali 34
16. Funj 31
17. Byzantium 27
18. Vijayanagar 22
19. Bihar 21
19. Wu 21
19. Ming 21
22. Malacca 17
 
I thought it was impossible that Lienster would be a GP at V2 start buuuut if the converter is heavy toward Tech they just might pull it off. Prestige does it matter to the converter?
 
V2 power equally weights military, industrial, and prestige scores, but since nobody has any industrial, it's basically half military, half prestige. I think the converter bases the prestige entirely on eu3 which weights it very heavily. I don't like this because so many of the major powers have terrible prestige because of colonial revolutions. I'm planning to modify the prestige in the eu3 because I just don't think it makes sense for Sardinia and Venice to be great powers. I'm thinking of giving bonus prestige for eU3 # of provinces and income, maybe it would make sense to have a bonus for tech too.
 
Never posted here, but I´ve been following this since its beginning. It´s a great AAR! A very interesting alternate world, and great writing!
I´ll jump on the wagon and also say that the Vicky II period will be awesome! I hope we´ll see a Great War involving Frankfurt (Germany?), Austria and Etruria on one side and England, France and Sibir on the other!
A question: is the decision to form the UK present in Vicky II? Or will England remain being England forever?
 
magritte2 said:
V2 power equally weights military, industrial, and prestige scores, but since nobody has any industrial, it's basically half military, half prestige. I think the converter bases the prestige entirely on eu3 which weights it very heavily. I don't like this because so many of the major powers have terrible prestige because of colonial revolutions. I'm planning to modify the prestige in the eu3 because I just don't think it makes sense for Sardinia and Venice to be great powers. I'm thinking of giving bonus prestige for eU3 # of provinces and income, maybe it would make sense to have a bonus for tech too.
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Actually I think the converter DOES take into account which manufactories are present in a province. I've converted over with Industrial score before and factories pre-built in provinces, and it seems to correspond with where I placed my Refineries/textile factories/etc in EUIII. But I do agree that a straight conversion of prestige from EUIII ---> Vic2 skews a lot of things up so whenever I plan to convert I always add and subtract prestige as I feel appropriate. Its silly seeing a big AI Spain with huge tracts of colonial land not be a GP b/c of colonial revolts and the eventual prestige drain from not holding cores.

Ideally, if I felt like taking the time, I would look at size, income, inflation, tech, and military strength of the top 30 or so (or even all of them) nations and average it all into one score. Give the top ranked nation of that 100 prestige and the next one prestige equal to what % they are in relation to #1. So if #1 and #2 are close, then #2 will have a prestige in the 90's, say, and so on. For nations under a certain level I would just assign 0-5 prestige (for not completely pathetic nations) and negative prestige for truly small/pathetic nations (and maybe some vassals even if they are respectable but not big/powerful ones) based on just how pathetic they are.
 
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What's that lime-green nation in northern Europe that's so far ahead in tech?
 
magritte2 said:
Yegur is correct, that is Polotsk. Though the highest tech nation in the world is Sardinia (Trade & Production 69, 68 in all other facets).
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Ah, I missed them. Sardina in Sardina is probably the strangest of all the things that will be seen in this AAR.:happy: German USA in Canada? Fine to me. Mega-Frankfurt? Not too off. Sardina in Sardina? HOW DID THAT HAPPEN!
 
1821 GLOBAL UPDATE PART 6: TRADE

Still mining the final save game for data with the help of Cback for maps.

Map of the world's trade areas, 1821:


The World's Major Trade Centers - I have ranked them by the total value of their trade. The first set of brackets identifies what country the COT belongs to. In the second set are the three largest traders in the COT by value, with an asterisk indicating a monopoly. After that, I have listed any goods that the center is one of the top three centers for trade, and an asterisk indicates they are the world's leading center:

COT’S BY VALUE

1. Nanjing (Ming) 3491.2 (Korea, Aceh, Normandy) Chinaware*, Fish*, Grain*, Gold, Iron, Naval Supplies, Tea, Wool
2. Cuzco (Peru) 1709.1 (Tyrone*, Sardinia, Norway) Coffee*, Gold*, Copper, Sugar, Tobacco
3. Rachur Doab (Vijayanagar) 1610.9 (Vijayanagar*, Gotland, Aceh) Spices*
4. Massachusetts (Canada) 1549.2 (Canada*, Sardinia, Bremen) Sugar*, Tobacco
5. Wea (Etruria) 1220.2 (Etruria*, Aragon, Haiti) Fur, Tobacco
6. Ontario (Leinster) 946.4 (Liege, Leinster*, Norway) Fur*, Coffee, Cotton
7. Bihar (Bihar) 942.4 (Galicia, Funj, Korea) Cotton*, Tea*,Cloth
8. Kutch (Vijayanagar) 850.1 (Galicia, Vijayanagra, Normandy) Cotton, Ivory, Tea
9. Sjaelland (Denmark) 803.3 (Denmark, Dauphine, Fez) Ivory*, Naval Supplies*, Fish
10. Malacca (Malacca) 777.9 (Makassar, Oman, Majapahit) Spices
11. Elsass (Frankfurt) 743.1 (Polotsk*, Frankfurt, Sardinia) Wine
12. Mexico (Mexico) 734.8 (Haiti*, Mexico, Leinster) Coffee, Sugar
13. Aden (Yemen) 718.5 (Fez, Tyrone, Yemen) Slaves
14. Tyrconnell (Leinster) 712.0 (Cologne, Polotsk, Venice) Fish, Iron
15. Brugge (France) 705.8 (Lithuania, Toulouse, Cologne) Cloth*
16. Tomsk (Sibir) 690.2 (Liege, Tyrone, Sibir) Copper*
17. Makassar (Makassar) 671.2 (Majapahit*. Oman, Aceh)
18. Chernigov (Nizhny Novgorod) 669.6 (Nizhny Novgorod*, Norway, Liege) Iron*, Grain
19. Navarra (Navarra) 659.2 (Cologne, Dauphine, Zaparaozhe) Wine
20. Alexandria (Mamluks) 639.8 (Fez, Liege, Mamlukes*) Slaves*, Wine*, Salt
21. Pisa (Etruria) 588.8 (Etruria, Polotsk, Liege) Salt
22. Reims (France) 580.5 (Berry, Cologne, Foix)
23. Fars (Byzantium) 579.2 (Tyrone, Lige, Fez) Wool*, Spices
24. Brandenburg (Saxony) 575.4 (Saxony*, Cologne, Venice) Fur, Naval Supplies
25. Galatia (Trebizond) 504.7 (Cologne, Zaparaozhe, Sardinia) Copper
26. Erz (Frankfurt) 479.1 (Foix, Venice, Cologne)
27. Timbuktu (Mali) 472.6 (Aragon,Mali*, Tyrone) Salt*, Grain
28. Amisos (Austria) 458.7 (Polotsk, Cologne, Novgorod) Wool
29. Rome (Papal state) 448.5 (Cologne, Venice, Papal State)
30. Gelre (Gelre) 412.0 (Gelre, Venice, Foix)
31. Venezia (Etrura) 371.6 (Zaparozhe, Haiti, Tyrone) Gold
32. Mahra (Oman) 351.6 (Oman, Aragon, Aceh)
33. Niederbayern (Frankfurt) 323.3 (Frankfurt, Dauphine, Polotsk)
34. Sulu (Najd) 304.2 (Najd, Fez, Aragon) Chinaware
35. Lower Silesia (Silesia) 302.5 (Polotsk, Tyrone, Cologne) Cloth
36. Gibraltar (Papal state) 292.0 (Papal State, Zaparozhie, Polotsk)
37. Aargau (Frankfurt) 278.2 (Sardinia, Polotsk, Frankfurt)
38. Genoa (Austria) 277.8 (Sardinia, Dauphine, Austria)
39. Tangier (Morocco) 248.0 (Sardinia, Morocco*, Normandy)
40. The Balearics (Aragon) 239.1 (Aragon, Zaparozhie, Liege)
41. Pomo (UPCA) 233.6 ) (Tyrone, Bremen, Norway)
42. Cayor (Mali) 230.2 (Mali, Normandy, Haasa) Ivory, Slaves
43. Toulouse (Guyenne) 130.7 (Liege, Guyenne, Savoy)

The Top Trading Nations Ranked by Trade Income (number in brackets is the number of active merchants)
1. Tyrone 1905 (47)
2. Sardinia 1603 (33)
3. Cologne 1383 (49)
4. Liege 1272 (34)
5. Aragon 1248 (35)
6. Fez 1210 (29)
7. Polotsk 1054 (40)
8. Haiti 864 (33)
9. Etruria 814 (13)
10. Normandy 689 (14)
11. Korea 670 (13)
12. Norway 669 (25)
13. Canada 601 (6)
14. Zaparozhie 566 (24)
15. Lithuania 559 (18)
16. Leinster 553 (19)
17. Yaroslavl 536 (12)
18. Foix 507 (21)
19. Novgorod 443 (19)
20. Genoa 359 (6)

Lastly, I am listing the major powers by their trade efficiency, though it must be said that few of the major powers play an important role in world trade
1. Etruria 125
2. Frankfurt 104
3. England 97
4. Castille 96
5. Bohemia 95
6. Leinster 95
7. Denmark 93
8. Berry 93
9. Sibir 88
10. Norway 85
11. Funj 82
12. France 76
13. Byzantium 73
14. Hungary 73
15. Mali 68
16. Navarra 68
17. Austria 65
18. Wu 56
19. Ming 51
20. Vijayanagar 49
21. Malacca 29
22. Bihar 29
 
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Lastly, I am listing the major powers by their trade efficiency, though it must be said that few of the major powers play an important role in world trade
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I'm actually quite surprised at that. I would have thought at least one of them could pull off some decent merchant/trade power play.
 
1821 GLOBAL UPDATE PART 7: THE ECONOMY

I've probably exhausted most people's interest in the stats behind the game, but I'll persevere a while longer with some more information on the economy as of 1821.

Thanks to cback, I have a map of total province income:



Provinces by Income
1. Nanjing, Ming 248.1
2. Pipil, Leinster 191.1
3. Somerset, England 180.9
4. Mosquito, Leinster 173.0
5. Pisa, Etruria 153.6
6. Metz, Frankfurt 150.0
7. Sjaelland, Denmark 145.3
8. Napoli, Etruria 143.1
9. Elsass, Frankfurt142.9
10. York, England 141.9
11. Potsdam, Frankfurt 141.1
12. Luxemburg, Frankfurt 138.0
13. Franken, Frankfurt 133.8
14. Calatrava, Denmark 128.4
15. Siena, Etruria 127.7
16. Benevento, Etruria 127.0
17. Hanyang, Ming 126.9
18. Aargau, Frankfurt 126.6
19. Nassau, Frankfurt 126.1
20. Foix, France 125.9
21. Lecce, Etruria 125.8
22. Northampton, England 123.4
23. Venezia, Etruria 123.0
24. Navarra, Navarra 122.0
25. Modena, Etruria 121.9


The Most Populous Provinces: All Cities with Population 999,999
Tyrconnell, Leinster
Sjaelland, Denmark
Brugge, France
Navarra, Navarra
Valencia, Berry
Forez, Dauphine
Monferrato, Baden
Schwaben, Tirol
Genoa and Amisos, Austria
Verona, Venice
Firenze, Tuscany
Rome, Papal States
Napoli, Venezia and Pisa, Etruria
Palermo, Aquileia
Boleslav and Trencin, Hungary
Pereyaslavl Zalessk, Muscovy
Aleppo, Madaba, Constantinople and Trapezous, Byzantium
Homs, Syria
Jaipur, Rajasthan
Kutch, Ahmadabad and Madras, Vijayanagar
Lucknow and bihar, Bihar
Pegu, Pegu
Malacca, Malacca
Makassar, Makassar
Jinan, Shangai, Hangzhou, Wenzhou, Xiamen, Huai’an, and Changsha, Wu
Nanjing, Hejian, Beihing, Kaifeng, Shenquing, Ji’an, and Changzhi, Ming
Chungcheong, Korea
Alexandria, Mamluks
Sarqihya, Funj

LOCATIONS OF MANUFACTORIES

Refineries:
Bamberg, Frankfurt
Nurnberg, Frankfurt
Pisa, Etruria
Tamaulipas, Etruria
Brno, Hungary
Cherson, Hungary

Naval Equipment Manufactories:
Leon, Leinster
Lubeck, Denmark
Csanad, Hungary
Temes, Hungary
Madurai, Vijayanagar
Fengyuan, Ming

Weapons Manufactories:
Somerset, England
Varmland, Sweden
Vastmanland, Gotland
Loon, Cologne
Metz, Frankfurt
Dresden, Frankfurt
Meissen, Frankfurt
Tyrnovo, Hungary
Guiyang, Ming
Lanzhou, Ming
Changzhi, Ming

Textile Manufactories:
Lancaster, England
Suffolk, England
Hainaut, Liege
Dohna, Frankfurt
Brescia, Frankfurt
Siena, Etruria
Venezia, Etruria
Varazdin, Hungary
Epirus, Athens
Bangalore, Vijayanagar
Katmandu, Bihar
Shangai, Wu
Xilin Gol, Ming
Ningxia, Ming
Gansu, Ming
Datong, Ming
Kaifeng, Ming
Hinggan, Manchu

Fine Arts Academies:
Breifne, Etruria
Bogota, Etruria

Universities:
Ossory, England
Leicester, England
Rogaland, Norway
Eu, Normandy
Nevers, France
Ile de France, France
Brabant, Bohemia
Oldenburg, Brunswick
Aargau, Frankfurt
Trier, Frankfurt
Wurzburg, Frankfurt
Leiningen, Frankfurt
Wurttemburg, Frankfurt
Istria, Austria
Trencin, Hungary
Toropets, Novgorod
Novgorod Serversky, Nizhny Novgorod
Darum, Haasa
Pelusia, Yemen
Sarqihya, Funj
Aswan, Funj
Mandara, Kanem Bornu

Major Nations Ranked by Income
1. Frankfurt 5741
2. Etruria 3727
3. England 3701
4. Denmark 3175
5. Hungary 2935
6. Norway 2904
7. Berry 2561
8. Vijayanagar 2511
9. Sibir 2340
10. Wu 2331
11. Leinster 2301
12. Ming 2142
13. Austria 2039
14. Mali 2023
15. France 1372
16. Bihar 1200
17. Byzantium 1053
18. Navarra 1015
19. Bohemia 847
20. Funj 821
21. Malacca 790
22. Castille 594

Major Nations Ranked by Inflation
1. Byzantium 91
2. Denmark 80
3. Hungary 65
4. Funj 64
5. Sibir 50
6. Berry 50
7. Norway 48
8. Bihar 45
9. Etruria 40
10. Ming 36
11. Mali 36
12. Navarra 34
13. England 30
14. France 29
15. Bohemia 29
16. Austria 29
17. Malacca 29
18. Vijayanagar 27
19. Frankfurt 22
20. Leinster 17
21. Castille 10
22. Wu 5

Major Nations Ranked by Production Efficiency:
1. Frankfurt 154
2. Leinster 144
3. Castille 136
4. England 130
5. France 130
6. Berry 126
7. Etruria 123
8. Bohemia 121
9. Sibir 120
10. Navarra 120
11. Austria 114
12. Denmark 107
13. Norway 90
14. Hungary 87
15. Ming 83
16. Mali 78
17. Byzantium 75
18. Wu 71
19. Funj 68
20. Vijayanagar 65
21. Bihar 48
22. Malacca 46

Trade Goods Ranked by Value (Top Three Producers by value among major nations follow)

1. Tobacco 61.7 Berry, Etruria, Navarra
2. Coffee 55.0 Leinster, England, Berry
3. Sugar 39.9 Leinster, Etruria, Castille
4. Chinaware 37.1 Wu, Ming
5. Cotton 35.7 Vijayanagar, Bihar, Berry
6. Spices 26.0 Vijayanagar, Malacca, Ming
7. Copper 25.9 Sibir, Byzantium, England
8. Tea 24.6 Bihar, Vijayanagar, Wu
9. Ivory 23.8 Mali, Denmark, Etruria
10. Iron 21.1 Frankfurt, England, Norway
11. Wine 17.7 Frankfurt, Berry, Etruria
12. Salt 16.1 Castille, Frankfurt, Mali
13. Slaves 14.8 Mali, Funj, Vijayanagar
14. Fur 13.5 Norway, Sibir, Leinster
15. Cloth 12.7 Frankfurt, France, Hungary
16. Fish 12.2 England, Denmark, Norway
17. Grain 3.7 Frankfurt, Hungary, Denmark
18. Naval Supplies 2.9 Denmark, Hungary, Norway
19. Wool 2.6 Ming, Frankfurt, Hungary
20. Gold – Mali, Austria, Sibir

Major Countries and their three most valuable products by value:
England – Iron, Fish, Coffee
Norway – Iron, Fur, Fish
Denmark – Fish, Wine, Grain
Frankfurt – Iron, Cloth, Wine
Bohemia – Cloth, Iron, Salt
France – Cloth, Wine, Grain
Berry – Wine, Tobacco, Iron
Navarra – Iron, Wine, Tobacco
Castille – Salt, Wine, Coffee
Etruria – Wine, Fish, Cloth
Austria – Gold, Fish, Wine
Hungary – Wine, Cloth, Grain
Byzantium – Copper, Wine, Cloth
Vijayanagar – Spices, Cotton, Tea
Bihar – Tea, Cotton, Cloth
Wu – Chinaware, Tea, Fish
Ming – Chinaware, Iron, Grain
Sibir – Copper, Fur, Iron
Funj - Slaves, Wine, Grain
Mali – Gold, Ivory, Slaves
Leinster – Coffee, Fur, Sugar
Malacca – Spices, Gold, Fish
 
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You've certainly not exhausted my interest; I find this sort of information fascinating. It really adds another layer of depth to the world, and certainly gives you more fuel for narrative during the transition. Not to mention it gives you another baseline with which you (and we!) can measure how successful or accurate the conversion is.
 
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