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EDIT: This game has been cancelled after 1.03b came out

There was a Plan to play a RPG heavy Piast dynasty MP. We were many interested players, and four who were very interested. We decided each will run a Polish Duchy, and each will make themselves a character in the Piast dynasty, sort of country cousins to the King. It was decided we will start today. After some false starts because of router problems, it was decided to postpone the start to next week so everybody could get their act together.

Patrucio and I decided to play just the two of us. We did call it a test-game. But it was fun, so we will continue :)

Players and duchies:
Patrucio, Duke of Silesia
Jarkko, Duke of Mazovia

AI: Very dificult and Furios

The rules we follow are available for the interested. The main rule is to have a laid-back and fun game, concentrating on the RPG aspect.

Gaming time and AAR updates:
Infrequent, when it suits the players :)
 
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It is I, Przemyslaw Piast. I am the second son of my father, former duke of Mazovia. At young age I was called a stubborn child. My father sent me to the monastery school to learn temperament. In the monastery I understood people have to be made understood their own good. Take a big stick and whack their head if they are weak in their belief, or do not even believe in our Lord.

I was organizing my private group who did intend to burn some infidels, when I recieved some bad news. My brother had died. It was Gods way to show that those weak in faith will fall. And I became the Duke of Mazovia.

Under my rule I have the counties of Plotsk and Czersk <OOC, edited to be so>. Mazovia borders many infidel lands, and it is my will that we will build up this Duchy to allow quick mobilization when and if our Holy Father shall give us the right to burn infidels. The Duke of Mazovia won't be found hesitating on that day.

<OOC Przemyslaw Piast Age: 17 BASEATTRIBUTES Military: 7, Diplomatic: 7, Intrigue: 7, Stewardship: 6, Health: 7 Fertility: 6 TRAITS: Zealous, Martial Cleric, Honest>

It was obvious that I would need an able wife by my side. Sophia of Kalmar Län was found to be suitable, and after some negotiations with the Duke of Kalmar, the wedding took place. Our God and Lord has blessed our mariage, as both I and Sofia have grown to love each other.

When there are conspirators and infidels around, one has to trust family. I have asked my cousins from the countryside to join my court. A few have responded so far, and I have tried to arrange prestigious marriages for them. That is why my court has seen many people from around Europe. Unfortunately many of the marriages have had to be made with old women (so as to gain prestige to my cousins), and thus have a few dies already during these few years. On the positive side, it seems to attract more cousins to my court, which can only be good.

Me and my beloved wife Sofia have been blessed five beautiful daughters. Greatness can be seen in them, and they will be fine wifes to important men from around Europe.

Me and my wife have not been blessed by a son so far. That is most vexing. I have heard that if one only spreads his seed to one woman only, then there won't be any sons. I have one time tried it, and the beutiful but stupid wench in question got pregnant and gave birth to a boy. Skarbimir is however not too bright, probably our Lords way to show one should not meddle with the lower classes. I sent Skarbimir to the monastery, hopefully the monks will put some effort on him.

I couldn't help myself (God forgive me) because I was still getting only daughters. Another wench, but exactly the same result. Forgive me my Lord, but I am only a weak man. I think I now understand.

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In 1071 some old scripts were found which clearly show that I am the rightful owner of Korsun. It took some time for my cartographer to find where this Korsun really is, but it is now clear the wrong ruler there has to be replaced. So far I have not found the time be ripe to that.

I found out in 1073 that Boleslaw our King is a coward. This was further strengthened by the fact that he did not take any actions agaisnt the infidels on our borders! Even the King of Hungary took actions in lands that by right would be Polish concern!

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As I am a man of honesty I did let this information out. It was strange how this act of honesty was viewed by some people as slander, and I was warned I should not spread such rumours.Rumours, HAH! We are now in 1076 and Boleslaw has not taken any actions against infidels. A coward is a coward, even if you fry him in butter. I hope Boleslaw understands that soon and takes actions.

I have changed the laws in my Duchy. It is my view, that since most of the world seems to be in the hands of ungodly infidels, it is the duty of me personally see to it. However, as me and Sofia have not been blessed by a son, I am hoping one of my daughters will give birth to an able grand-son, and have modified the laws to allow that.

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OOC: Quite nicely done, Jark. Also, my character, Wladyslaw Piast, BASE STATS: Martial-11
Diplomacy-6
Intrigue-0
Stewardship-9
Health-6
Fertility-8

With traits (Valorous, Brilliant Strategist, Zealous):

Martial-18
Diplomacy-6
Intrigue-1
Stewardship-10 (i think)

December 26th, Saint Stephen's Day, 1066, Year of Our Lord

I have hereby finally passed into my own rule, no longer manipulated by usurping courtiers. I, Wladyslaw Piast, am about to begin my rise to glory, as Duke of Krakow. I hope to seek aid from my neighbouring duchies in order to launch a crusade against the terrible menace to the north, the Prussian tribes, as well as the Pommeranians. We must act quickly brethren, or the greedy Hungarian king shall take the land to our north. Alone we are far too weak to fight against the infidels, but, together, we can smite them. Perhaps we should split up the counties, in preparation?

My proposal:

Krakow takes Danzig, Marienburg, Chelminskie.
Wielkopolska takes Wolgast, Mecklemburg, Lubeck.
Silesia takes Stettin and surrounding area.
Mazovia takes Podlasie and Galindia.

This is just preliminary, assigning spheres of influence to all of us. Of course, we will move against the Prussians first, then the Pommeranians, then the Galindians and Yatvyagians.

Also, I ask of you brethren, is this a good choice for the laws of my realm?

Salic Consanguinity
Royal Preorgatory
Regal Supremacy

I am conflicted, especially about Royal Preorgatory, so, please, advise me on this topic, my kin and my comrades in arms.
 
A tall hooded man, clothed in dark shadows glides across the room, his onyx eyes piercing the encompassing darkness.

"Salic Consanguinity,Royal Preorgatory,Regal Supremacy?"

The dark man laughs, as the shadows dance around him.

"Those laws will bring ruin to your realm Christian. Elective Law will let you choose the best of your heirs to succeed you. Regal supremacy? You will drown in a sea of usury, and your piety will vanish beneath it. No Cross-follower try Eclesiastical Balance, before the Pope excomunicates you."

The Dark Lord's laughter ends, as he returns to his Pechenegs.
 
Sterkarm said:
Krakow takes Danzig, Marienburg, Chelminskie.
Wielkopolska takes Wolgast, Mecklemburg, Lubeck.
Silesia takes Stettin and surrounding area.
Mazovia takes Podlasie and Galindia.

This is just preliminary, assigning spheres of influence to all of us. Of course, we will move against the Prussians first, then the Pommeranians, then the Galindians and Yatvyagians.

Also, I ask of you brethren, is this a good choice for the laws of my realm?

Salic Consanguinity
Royal Preorgatory
Regal Supremacy

I am conflicted, especially about Royal Preorgatory, so, please, advise me on this topic, my kin and my comrades in arms.

I'll RP an answer in session, but my theologian would not be interrested in divvying up their neighbors. Until the Pope or the King tell him otherwise, he's not going to be interrested in the goings-on of lesser peoples and he's not inclined to discuss military matters. He's a lover, not a fighter. ;)

I'd also point out that some of those places you have picked out have already fallen to other Kingdoms (Hungary and Germany, most notably.)

As for the laws:

Rafal would concur with your decision for salic consanguinity. His rationale is that the King of Poland enforces such laws in his own house, so he believes that is the example his vassals should follow.

Royal Perogatory he would not be comfortable with supporting, as not even the King of Poland asserts his unchecked Regal rights. If your leige does not feel such laws are appropriate, Rafal would argue that it is exceessively arrogant- to the point of sinfulness- to assert more greatness than your King.

Rafal feels that Royal Supremacy is an affront to the Church, and should be abolished. The Church is not supposed to interfere in temporal matters, but neither is the nobility supposed to meddle in spiritual matters. God gave us our pillars of society for a reason. Those who pray have been chosen by God to settle religious matters. It is inappropriate for those who fight to delve into what is their domain.

Rafal has set the laws of Silesia currently at Sallic Consanguity, Feudal Contract, and Ecclesiastic Balance.

The first part of my AAR will be coming after tonight's session.
 
Looks promising, and I like the idea.

However, I can't provide help like Shaytana since I'm still eagerly awaiting it to be released in the states.
 
It is I, Przemyslaw Piast. I have been advised to give the Church more freedom in my Duchy. Even though I fear that it may mean that infidels are not allowed to be burned, it has been pointed out that our Lord has not blessed me and my wife with a son, and it is the result of my personal control of the Church in my Duchy.

I will change the law to allow the Church some indipendence on matters that do not hamper in anyway the burning of infidels.
 
Duchy of Silesia

1066-1175: The Story Begins

The scene begins in Upper Silesia, where the western-most branch of the Piast family holds domain.


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The Duchy of Silesia, circa 1066

Recently ended is a war between Poland and Bohemia, a war that began because of hard words that were exchanged between the Duke of Silesia and the Duke of Poland. The fighting was short but fierce, and ended in the death of Duke Wanko Piast and his two eldest sons. His only surviving son, Rafael, had been sent to a monistary years ago because he lacked the temperment for fighting and was believed not to be necessary to keep the Silesian throne in the Piast family. With the death of his father and brothers, however, Rafael found himself reluctantly thrust upon the throne.


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Rafael was considered by most to be an exceptional thinker. His treatises on the nature of the Trinity were widely circulated among religious intellectuals, and some said that Rafael could some day be the greatest writer of Christian ideology since Thomas Aquinas. The temporal lords of Silesia were less happy with their new leige, however, as Rafael was considered to be a pacifistic man, committed to the Christian teachings of turning the other cheek.

Drawn as Rafael was from his life as a religious thinker and forced to consider the future of his family, Rafael's first duty was to appoint a court and find a bride. Silesia had a relatively small court, and it was quickly clear who would be the best office-holder among the scyophants of Silesia. Rafael also decided to take his bride from his own court, for he had always been fond of his cousin Eufrozyna. Rafael and Eufrozyna were wed in April of 1066.


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Rafael was never an ambitious man, and the whole of his hopes were centered around building a big family and building up his lands. Most lords in the other courts of Poland spoke eagerly of fighting against their neighbors, both Christian and Pagan, but Rafael was content with his lot in life. He kept up in an interersted fashion with is cousins in Weilkopolska, Mazovia, and Krakaow- as well as Rafael's royal cousin, the King of Poland- and watched with cautious interest the Dukes of Bohemia to the south that had forced him to ascend to the throne. He made no efforts to ramp up his armies for war, however.

Rafael was rewarded well by the Lord for his humility. He was given a son on August 17th, in the year of our Lord 1068. The boy was named Wanko after Rafael's late father. Wanko was quickly followed by the birth of Mikolaj in late May of 1069 (named after Rafael's oldest brother) and Swinislawa on Jule the 11th, 1070 (named after Eufrozyna's mother.) Soon after the birth of Rafael's second son, the Duke of Silesia enacted laws changing the inheritance laws to Sallic custom, in order to mirror the inheritance laws of Royal Poland.

A few months after Swinislawa was born, a burning light was seen in the sky. All educated men agreed that it was an evil omen, but what it meant was a matter of much debate. Rafael eagerly joined in the debate, but eventually decided that the Church should settle the matter. After a generous contribution from the Duke, the Church decided that the ill omen was most likely intended for those who strayed from the Church's teachings.

The ill tidings portended by the comet were revealed on January 12th of the next year, when little Swinislawa died a mysterious crib death. Rafael was filled with grief, and turned to learning to bury his misery. His sadness proved productive, and Rafael managed to stumble upon the notion of the Seven Liberal Arts. Rafael immediately ordered the building of a library, and named the building in honor of his dead daughter. Each stone put in place for the building took with it some measure of Rafael's sadness, and by the time his hall of learning was complete the Duke of Silesia had emerged from his mourning.


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All this focus on sadness for the death of a girl, focus on learning and scholarship rather than swordsmanship and hunting, and an open disinterest in fighting pagans lead some to accuse Rafael of being a coward. Rumors began reaching the Duke's ears in November of 1072. Rafael, being an honest fellow, admitted that he feared fighting in manly war, and soon was labelled a coward by all who knew him.

Be that as it may, Rafael saw the birth of another son on July 24th of 1073. He was named Mikolaj after the other brother that had died in the Bohemian wars half a decade ago. The happiness and relative success enjoyed by the Silesian Piasts were not enjoyed by their cousins to the north, however. Shortly after the birth of Mikolaj, word reached Silesia that the Duke of Weilkopolska had died from illness. All but one of his sons had been claimed in the same wave of plague, and the Duchy now found itself ruled by a regent on behalf of a child-Duke. Some in Silesia suggested that the Duke take advantage of the situation by manufacturing his own claim, but Rafael considered it unconscionable to take that course.


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The new Duke of Weilkopolska, Silesia's neighbor to the north, circa 1075

1074 was a quiet year, peaceful and happy, as Duke Rafael focused further on building up his domain and watching over his family. By 1074, both of Rafael's sons had come to an age where they needed an education. Rafael decided to have both educated in the courts, both to keep them near and because both had also inherited their father's disinterest and lack of talent in martial matters. 1074 also saw the birth of another daughter to Rafael and Euphrozyna. She was named Ryksa, after Rafael's maternal grandmother.

1075 saw times turn tumultous. Baby Ryksa fell ill in February and, though the Duke and his wife had done what they could for the babe, she died in July. The grief of Rafael and his wife were mittigated somewhat by the fact that Euphrozyna was expecting again. However, even that proved to be a mixed blessing as the midwives reported that the baby seemed to be having problems. Euphrozyna was placed on bed rest, and Rafael attended to her daily. During the Duke's period of intensive focus upon his wife, a guild of thieves organized and began operating in Opole. When told about this, Rafael ordered that a Hall of Justice be built there, but otherwise paid it no mind.

Finally, November came. November is when the baby was expected to be born. Euphrozyna went to labor on November 21st. The labor was difficult, and at some point the midwives realized that the baby had breached. They struggled to save the Duchess, but when the realized that she was bleeding too heavily decided to try to save the child. They cut Euphrozyna's belly open and sought to deliver the child as great Cesare had been millenia ago. Tragedy was found inside as well, as the babe had strangled upon her umbilical chord during the birthing process. November 23rd, the news was finally broken to Duke Rafael. Both his wife and his third daughter were dead.

With a heavy heart, Rafael broke the news to his relatives. Some, particularly the more religious among his relatives, encouraged Rafael to see it as part of the Lord's plan, and urged him to set his grief aside and to marry again. Rafael would have none of it, though. He declared that he would honor his wife with an entire year or mourning before he would even consider taking a new bride.


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Another good AAR there... but remember, gonna have to start again when we play this session.

EDIT: But Rafael doesn't sound very Polish :p
 
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Sterkarm said:
Another good AAR there... but remember, gonna have to start again when we play this session.

Jarkko and I are playing a second game with this scenario on random nights whenever we're free. This AAR is for our one-on-one game

EDIT: But Rafael doesn't sound very Polish :p

It was supposed to be Rafal, but whatever. I wanted to play in Spain anyways, remember. ;)
 
Patrucio said:
Jarkko and I are playing a second game with this scenario on random nights whenever we're free. This AAR is for our one-on-one game



It was supposed to be Rafal, but whatever. I wanted to play in Spain anyways, remember. ;)

Hmmm... Well, I'd be interested in joining that game...
 
Are you two playing tonight?
 
It is I, Przemyslaw Piast. As I told earlier, I did change the laws. The church now has some freedom, and I have also agreed that in future we shall give vassals more freedom. Not that we have any vassals.

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In Aprl 1076 there was a chance to overthrow the cowardly King Boleslaw. I took personally part in the planning to remove that pagan-lover, but it all ended just with some hard words between me and Boleslaw. I told the King God would not let such a coward to live on for ever, and our relationship did freeze. In 1080 our Lord finally saw it fit to remove the pagan-lover, and his underage son Zbigniev was crowned as the new King.

Zbignievs advisors have done much bad for him. All his vassals are mourning under the heavy taxes, but to no avail. If tensions with Boleslaw were icy, under the new rulership they have deteroriated fast.

My oldest daughter Helena seems to be fond of the young King. Of course it would be most fortunate if they could find their paths together, but I am not sure how Zbigniews advisors will look at the matter. My dear Helena would be an excellent queen of Poland.

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Alas, me and my wife have not have any children the past years. Our relationship has chilled, as we still don't have a son. There are nights when I wish there was a way to remove the holy sacrament of marriage, because Sofia has not been able to give me a son.

I have been succesfull in asking more of my country cousins to attend my court. Altough I have few extraordinary assistants in my court, there are many rather good.

The Holy Father, the Pope in Rome excommunicated the count of Western Isles. As only a true follower of Christ can do, I too sent the demand to Western Island that they should stand down. England soon after annexed Western Islands, but I still have the document from the Pope which explicitly says I have a rightful claim on Western Island. I hope this letter will become a heirloom in my family, as in truth I have no possibility to demand the title. If I only had a son...

In the west the Kingdom of Germany collapsed after the pagan chiefs overrun Franconia. The title of King of Germany has remained unclaimed.

The ungodly Duke of Wielkopolska have caused much tumult. It is said he is fond of money, and does not care for God. Wielkopolska and Silesia (God bless the faithfull Duke of Silesia, even though he doesn't seem to understand why all infidels should be burned) fell to the brink of war over the county of Lubusz, whose count wanted to throw away the ungodly mantle and seek protection from the Duke of Silesia. The pagan-loving King Boleslaw unfortunately of course sided with Wielkopolska, and there is now a lot of bad feelings between Silesia and Wielkopolska.

My own claim on Korsun has had to be put back to the shelves. Novgorod overran Kiev, and Korsun is a vassal of the combined Novgorod-Kiev. I sent a courier to Kiev, but he was thrown out. It won't be my last word on the matter, the time is just not now to shout out.

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If I only had a son...