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HolisticGod said:
T,

You keep bringing up MP and I'm going to have to find someone who can hack into your computer... :D

Good luck :)

Alexandru,

Thank you. A lot there I'd never heard.

A bit perturbed by the way crusading troops are to be handled, particularly with respect to winter cantonments, but I suppose there has to be some bonus for them and a morale advantage just won't work, particularly as the Muslims were not all that daunted or impressed by the Franks in their mountains of iron.
I think you will find yourself challenged, regardless. ;)
 
Chris,

That's good to hear.

Though the most interesting MP games, at least at the outset, will be those with the Muslims and major Pagans modded to playable... I'd gladly do a seperate install, but I imagine it'd be as simple adding it to the selection list in the save file, or, barring that, creating a new nation with the same reference files.

As for hacking into your computer, we aren't allowed to interact with you Marxist, bleeding-heart Canadians in such intimate ways anymore... Apparently.

It's just been a tough wait. Curse Victoria.
 
HolisticGod said:
Though the most interesting MP games, at least at the outset, will be those with the Muslims and major Pagans modded to playable...
Would require *heavy* modification or else it would *not* be a good MP game. Trust me. :)

I think that a handful of players taking western European Duchies would suffice to keep you entertained... ;)
 
Chris,

I'm sorry to hear that...

However deep the game is-and by all accounts it's very deep indeed-the context, history and allure of Muslim states are powerful, particularly in this period, and the crusades will be a lot less fun without humans...

Then again, what about just putting technically "Christian" Caliphates in those provinces-in a save-for MP? Will it blinker the Pope and make the whole project futile?
 
Chris,

Ah, wait, I think I see your point.

The Caliphates are very strong, aren't they? Historically, of course, they should be, but they could be broken up fairly easily... That's an interesting situation, though. I foresee many of the OE-Habsburg-France balance debates from EU II reappearing.

I just hope the Muslims have a higher tech speed than the Christians, human played or not...
 
Can't answer you directly until the store hits the shelves and the NDA is lifted on 1.00. You're moving along the right general line though.
 
Chris,

Understood.

ForVictory,

Not true.

Muslim siege engines were generally superior, as were their cavalry tactics and logistics. It was their better organization and command, and infrastructure, too, that made the armies possible.

Of course, the very fact that you make such an assertion-that they just always had better numbers-is the root of the mistake. Christians always put their defeats down to hundreds of thousands of warriors charging forward at the command of Satan-even though such forces were, in most places, impossible.

And "military" tech is just one area. Unquestionably, the Muslims launched ahead in mathamatics (Algebra ring a bell?), industry, the natural sciences, the arts and philosophy.