About dead or dormant monarchs

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1) I found many times in the lines of my SP saved scenarios (Elio GC) regular or dormant monarchs still present after their timeframes. I think they could cause CTDs or screw those games ...
In my MP game (Rush of Titans) I always controlled and cleaned it during the week between our sessions ...
Maybe some events didn't appear about relative choices ...
Maybe some Nations disappeared before those events ...

2) Some Nations appear later in the game after revolts and present their monarchs in the lines of the saved scenario (monarchtable) but since 1419 !

Is there a method to solve these troubles?
Thx in advance for every edited post.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

1) I found many times in the lines of my SP saved scenarios (Elio GC) regular or dormant monarchs still present after their timeframes. I think they could cause CTDs or screw those games ...
In my MP game (Rush of Titans) I always controlled and cleaned it during the week between our sessions ...
Maybe some events didn't appear about relative choices ...
Maybe some Nations disappeared before those events ...

2) Some Nations appear later in the game after revolts and present their monarchs in the lines of the saved scenario (monarchtable) but since 1419 !

Is there a method to solve these troubles?
Thx in advance for every edited post.

Not certain why this would be a problem. The game knows what date it is. The game loads the save file, including the monarchs and leaders from dates prior to the "current" date. Those leaders and monarchs never show up because their "begin" date never occurs.

I like having them there because that way you know what you missed out on through event choices, etc.

 

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Not certain why this would be a problem. The game knows what date it is. The game loads the save file, including the monarchs and leaders from dates prior to the "current" date. Those leaders and monarchs never show up because their "begin" date never occurs.
I like having them there because that way you know what you missed out on through event choices, etc.

Usually monarchs and leaders are deleted in the scenario after their deathdate ...
Anyway it isn't nice if they cause a CTD or a screwed savefile.

 

[jdrou]

Usually monarchs and leaders are deleted in the scenario after their deathdate ...
Anyway it isn't nice if they cause a CTD or a screwed savefile.

I've looked at many savegame files and usually I see all the monarchs. A scenario starting in 1492 still has all the monarchs in the monarch file stored in the savegame.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

Usually monarchs and leaders are deleted in the scenario after their deathdate ...
Anyway it isn't nice if they cause a CTD or a screwed savefile.

You are missing the point. If you look at a save game, the presence of the "skipped" monarchs and leaders tells you many things about what happened in the game, either in set-up (scenario) or in events. I'd much rather have them still there so I know what is going on.

Having never in 4 years now experienced a crash from a dormant leader or monarch, I'd be hard pressed to suggest they should be removed...

 

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I've looked at many savegame files and usually I see all the monarchs. A scenario starting in 1492 still has all the monarchs in the monarch file stored in the savegame.

Are You talking about the monarchs section in the history of the game at the end of the scenario lines?
I was talking about monarchtable (next monarch to load by EU II during the game).

 

[jdrou]

Are You talking about the monarchs section in the history of the game at the end of the scenario lines?
I was talking about monarchtable (next monarch to load by EU II during the game).

monarchtable. Even games started in 1492 or later have all monarchs from the monarch file in the monarchtable.

 

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monarchtable. Even games started in 1492 or later have all monarchs from the monarch file in the monarchtable.

The game should upload only monarchs existing in the lines of scenario (section monarchtable), not from DB/monarchs folder: I can put fantasy monarchs in the scenario without historical themes. I did it with Genoa, because bad doges ruled only for 2 years; I inserted less monarchs ruling for more years, with less lines too.