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Way too many people here in the United States get their information about our 16th President from the movies-->

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Too much TV. Not enough books.


Oh God, not again. They couldn't stop at Confederate Vampyres?
 
Well the former is implicit. Would you elaborate on what you mean by the latter?

Simply put: politics. Black Emmancipation is a political tool. It is used to enrich corporations, and while it emancipates it fails to fully integrate Blacks anywhere in the country. Brown v. The Board of Education takes place in Topeka, Kansas in the mid-Fifties, essentially ending the 'separate but equal' doctrine.

It's not begun to be corrected until Lyndon Baines Johnson made a political deal trading a form of full citizenship for warm bodies to feed the war in Vietnam. And by that point there is no way America can spend untold billions paying for WWII, the Marshal Plan, defend Europe, war in Vietnam AND rebuild urban infrastructure. The money went to the war, the Black population is left in the cold again.

Political hypocrisy.
 
In as soon as another 50 years, this will be "Zombies v. the Board of Education".

Mark my words.

If there's money in it, it don't matter if it distorts history. People who prefer to buy books over movies deserve the "education" they get.

 
It is interesting to look at how the moderate and reasonable tack on how to deal with the slave issue in America shifted so much between pre-and post war. From what I gather by way of letters and editorials full out abolitionism was viewed as a pesky minority view, a bunch of trouble makers really that were mucking up the process of delicate compromise and compensation that would be needed. Then you can read some of the same writers being down right abolitionist and for full and equal rights later on.

That tends to be that happen when the opposition essentially disappears. (the slavery-supporters more or less took themselves out of the decision-making process when they rebelled, leaving only various strains of anti-slavery groups, which meant there was a lot less pull towards compromise)

Pre-war what you had was a small chunk of abolitionists, a somewhat larger chunk who were anti-slavery but not abolitionist, a majority who were compromisers and hard southern pro-slavery core.

The war removed the actually pro-slaver groups, leaving the compromisers at the far end, and with no one to compromise with they kind of withered.

It took a couple of decades and some serious mismanagement for ex-slavers to rehabilitate themselves sufficiently to become a political force again.
 
Simply put: politics. Black Emmancipation is a political tool. It is used to enrich corporations,

The corporations were doing extremely well for themselves with the price of cotton being kept low. Writers at the time even went so far as to claim it was the primary reason for the success of american manufacturing.
 
In as soon as another 50 years, this will be "Zombies v. the Board of Education".

Mark my words.

If there's money in it, it don't matter if it distorts history. People who prefer to buy movies over books deserve the "education" they get.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

Worth watching just to see Terry Crews as President Mountain Dew Camacho
The corporations were doing extremely well for themselves with the price of cotton being kept low. Writers at the time even went so far as to claim it was the primary reason for the success of american manufacturing.

Yes. And what was the effect upon American Bidness of giving corporations the same legal rights as a ‘person’ after the war? The impact was ‘Yuge’!
 
Yes. And what was the effect upon American Bidness of giving corporations the same legal rights as a ‘person’ after the war? The impact was ‘Yuge’!

So you are in favor of stockholders facing unlimited liability then. Cool. You believe that a teacher in Indiana should go to prison because their retirement fund owned shares of Nestle when they killed some babies in Africa. Personally I think that's a pretty extreme and stupid view. So I prefer to see more shades of gray then "corporate personhood means corporations are people." But hey, if you want to break everything down into ridiculous dichotomies like that, you are free to do that.
 
So you are in favor of stockholders facing unlimited liability then. Cool. You believe that a teacher in Indiana should go to prison because their retirement fund owned shares of Nestle when they killed some babies in Africa. Personally I think that's a pretty extreme and stupid view. So I prefer to see more shades of gray then "corporate personhood means corporations are people." But hey, if you want to break everything down into ridiculous dichotomies like that, you are free to do that.

Stupid?

I was going to thank you for illustrating the rationale behind the ruling till I ran into the wall of insults. But its late Saturday night and I'm not taking your bait.

In no way is my comment a refutiation of Roscoe Conkling or an argument against the wisdom of the jurisprudence behind the decision. The point is Corporate America got this boon, what did the Black Man get? Welcome to Reconstruction.

Have a nice evening.
 
Found your problem. Lincoln was a politician and a man of the world. He changed, frequently. Cherry picking his life will create a distorted picture.
Not to mention there was a small war in between those two times that may have had an effect on his opinion.