Add malus for electing Emperor (and IA?)

[zdlugasz]

In my current game Austria was overrun by pretender rebels. I was not watching what happened exactly but I have alert on them since in future I want to have my own Italian ambition.
So suddenly I see that imperial Authority goes up by 10; Austria changes government type and ruler: somebody from nowhere takes over, and this new guy just gets elected and miraculously imperial authority goes up.

I propose to add say -100 malus for electors (+2/Y) when something like that happens - why electors should elect pretender? If that is what happens even Imperial Authority might slightly go down.

Additionally I propose to consider adding similar but much smaller malus whenever emperor accepts rebel demands (maybe bigger if is forced to accept).
I also propose to reduce Imperial Authority (-2) if demands of rebels are accepted by emperor (-5 if forced?). What kind of authority it is when everybody is forcing poor guy to do as they want? Accepting any demands by Emperor means that he is accepting decentralization.

 

[IIWW]

Isn't there already malus for prestige and legitimacy, which are decreased when Pretender wins?
Also, IA is not linked with decentralization: when someone, even emperor, annexes prince of HRE he gets -IA

 

[Wizzington]

IA penalties for pretender and for losing to rebels makes sense, but a -100 malus is too harsh stacked on top of IA and prestige/legitimacy loss.

 

[zdlugasz]

Isn't there already malus for prestige and legitimacy, which are decreased when Pretender wins?
Also, IA is not linked with decentralization: when someone, even emperor, annexes prince of HRE he gets -IA

IA is for passing reforms, which means it is about forming Greyskin, thus it is a tool for centralization.
If you cave in (or worse are overrun) to rebels your centralization should go down.

IA penalties for pretender and for losing to rebels makes sense, but a -100 malus is too harsh stacked on top of IA and prestige/legitimacy loss.

Maybe -100 is too harsh, I forgot about prestige/legitimacy hits. But it should be big enough that new guy is not elected new emperor.

 

[zdlugasz]

I have loaded save file from about 5 years after pretender took over Austrian throne and only one elector was supporting Austria.

Austria had -170 points with Bohemia, more than -100 points with 3 other electors, -70 points with one elector, -30 points with Brandenburg and had only +28 with Trier.

So I guess that malus is not necessary at all, but the problem is lack of "elector choice calculation tick" at the moment when Habsburg has been deposed and new guy has taken over.

I wonder also why Austria (any other country) is keeping all their alliances, marriages, etc. when pretender take over

 

[grommile]

I wonder also why Austria (any other country) is keeping all their alliances, marriages, etc. when pretender take over

Presumably because the developers do not want victory by pretender rebels to be "lol gg" for medium-sized countries, which losing all your alliances would be an unpleasantly large fraction of the time.