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beregic -- are your additions with the 0.3 release, or still with the 0.2 upload?

#9: I'm really not understanding what this is about...

#10: Yes, the BYZ goes Catholic events are messed up; even worse, many events don't fire because of ill-placed religion=orthodox triggers. However, the Copts certainly won't aid a Catholic BYZ like they would an Orthodox BYZ. That's the price for Latin tech.

#11: I see 376 cores in events. Are you using the 0.3 release?

#12: The Dalmatia issue is fixed (the original annex used Morea's number for Dalmatia EVERYWHERE)in the 0.3 release.

#13: There is a problem with gaining a vassal that is already a vassal. What do you mean about an event that should trigger when minors get involved in a war with a muslim country? Also, what isn't triggering for the White or Black Sheep?

#14: Haven't really looked at the US events yet...

#15: the Union of Montferrat events fire the moment BYZ gains "control" of any Italian province.

#16: I'd hate to think that's WAD, but it may be... I'll look at it.
 
While I'm still looking over beregic's list, I've posted what fixes I do have as 0.4 over in the upload thread.

What's new? Fixes for the Nubian vassalage, and attempts to cleanup various war-derived CTDs. Also, if Morea somehow takes Constantinople after it falls to the Turks, the Despot becomes Emperor and reestablishes the Empire. The Crossroads event will fire, allowing them to decide to rebuild the Empire, or become Greece. Trebizond needs similar events as well, but I was playing Morea. There's some other little fixes here and there.

My projects right now are a) commenting the existing annex to match AGCEEP, b) cleaning up the code here and there, c) getting all three powers (SPR/TRE/BYZ) working through to 1500, and d) working through beregic's list.

Good luck, and have fun playing.
 
As the game is so far, I enjoy wonderfully, except I love the Ottomans, so testing this has been a heart-wrenching thing to see divided Islam fall...oh well, on with the conquest. :D
 
Dad, if you see this before you come home, I know what beregic is talking about in the North Africa 50 year casus belli.
Talk to you later.
Laptop will be out to download as well too.
 
donm61873 said:
My projects right now are a) commenting the existing annex to match AGCEEP
A lot of work but it really worths the pain for you, other modders and even players who want to read events. Trust me.

archangel620 said:
As the game is so far, I enjoy wonderfully, except I love the Ottomans, so testing this has been a heart-wrenching thing to see divided Islam fall...oh well, on with the conquest. :D
I think this is the main goal. :) And welcome!
 
donm61873 said:
beregic -- are your additions with the 0.3 release, or still with the 0.2 upload?

#9: I'm really not understanding what this is about...

#10: Yes, the BYZ goes Catholic events are messed up; even worse, many events don't fire because of ill-placed religion=orthodox triggers. However, the Copts certainly won't aid a Catholic BYZ like they would an Orthodox BYZ. That's the price for Latin tech.

#11: I see 376 cores in events. Are you using the 0.3 release?

#12: The Dalmatia issue is fixed (the original annex used Morea's number for Dalmatia EVERYWHERE)in the 0.3 release.

#13: There is a problem with gaining a vassal that is already a vassal. What do you mean about an event that should trigger when minors get involved in a war with a muslim country? Also, what isn't triggering for the White or Black Sheep?

#14: Haven't really looked at the US events yet...

#15: the Union of Montferrat events fire the moment BYZ gains "control" of any Italian province.

#16: I'd hate to think that's WAD, but it may be... I'll look at it.

all the comments are for the version you have posted on "upload mods forum"


9--- there is an event that triggers when owning all turkish anatolia ; is is called "take a look at each province in turn " (is from the old ageep fantasy byzhantum) and gives or take 2 inno as options...but AFTER the only province event that triggers is for andana province only

10 - actually the third run i made it with byz catholic WITH ALL EVENTS; the trick was to siege rome right AT THE GAME START

about choptics...the event ONLY TRIGGERS( ortho or catholic) IF OWN KIRUK AND IRAQ( figured that out eventually ; the PROBLEM is that in no events does byz gets A CORES on this 2 provinces.... ;)

13--- after annexing ottos , vassalizing the left turkish minors let you inherit them right after right?......that event does not exists for "kara..."( white sheep i think) . also dhagenistan missing...

if ,moldova is poland's vassal for example; i get the evnt to possiblly get it as vassal but i do not do so in practice; can not that be fixed by adding an event first that makes moldova( for example) break vassalship with poland and THEN get the event regarding help from byz?
 
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regarding north africa:

"north african campaign" ; that is the last event that triggers after all the other "campaigns"; however this particular event gives ONLY cb's and no cores, wich mean is impossible to conquer all the north african minors without getting bb wars( always on "very hard" settings here); seems to me that that event needs a follow -up( just to test it i did conquer all north africa and all i got is an event that aknoladges that and some money but STILL no cores and no culture....); just an idea: for italian and maghebi cultures and cores....if they player owns them or the majority then he/she should receive it ( unlike the other cores wich are given BEFORE campaign begins). like this would make it more chalanging but rewarding as well in case it is done; add to it possiblly new "campaigns" gaining "tatar", "persian", "nubian" "ethiopian", "caucasian" cultures, with cores to be given AFTER conquest?

regarding itally:

conquering rome right at the start (must be done BEFORE the union of churches)( quiet hard since no navy, took like 10 loans first 2 years) makes byz inheriting and then once going catholic the rest of the events DO TRIIGER as intended as same as the orthodox byz version (+ the much wanted italian culture)
however comparing both my tests, i did much better ( tech levels, manus) with ORTHODOX byz then THE CATHOLIC VERSION, wich is quiet odd, BUT is very likelly becouse all the extra provinces to convert everywhere( but if manage to get all itally that can be started, otherwise impossible)

-as catholic , there are those random extra events for conversions; only got 1, i guess bad luck

regarding various cores:
-in no event can get cores on cyrenica and the one beside it( 99% mameluks have them)
-no core on daghenistan even if still turkish
-dalmatia, ottos starting provinces( i hear that was just fixed in a brand new version? i will look soon)
- no cores on itally except the sicilly and apulia( now i know that they should NOT BE GIVEN EASY those cores, but IF byz manage to own them for some time lets say, should not eventually get it?)
-kirul and iraq provinces are needed in order for the choptic events to fire ( by the way having 50years 8 rr in order to gain kurdish and syrian provinces is totally not worth to do so; those are only 3 provinces with allepo the only significant one to have)
-IF moving capital to rome and then releasing "papal" , byz capital will always move to MACEDONIA and not THRACE.
- no cores on georgia
-no cores on south crimea even if there is an event that triggers once owned them...
- bulgaria has core on macedonia( wich is greek).macedonia formed it at one point after i waited and helped the rebels sustain that province for hope of its defection to me :(

regarding events:

-the event that has the anatolian familly OR macedonian one fighting giver 5rr in either provinces; now having this event a few times can get 30rr or so easilly; very cool, but should not the "rr" be timed for a certain number of months instead of it remaining "on" permanentlly?
- the last "expansion" event, the one to go foward for north africa, mentiones great rewards IF manage to get gibraltar from spain( wich of course i hapilly did) but there is absolutelly NO EVENT to even aknoladge that...( probablly something to be developed further?)
- byz gets a FEW events regarding holland rebels( if netherlands appear and one BEFORE that) . triggers "byz interference" for spain...again there is no rewards or anything else if provide support to dutch rebels
- once owning armenia there is an event that gives some wiered options that could make sense IF there is at least a follow up event.
- if choose "byz colonial" FLAG i kept getting non stop revolts in any colony i make ( looked in file i, it is a random event) the problem is that it triggers on YEARLLY bases almost( maybe again just very bad luck?)
- when annexing mameluks; definatelly the event about releasing hedjia( MECCA) does not work well if any of those arabic provinces are owned by someone else....all 3 times i tested byz i kept owning mecca...i think that is becouse the hedjia revoltee file does NOT include mecca...
- the "jyhad" events ( in case i expel muslim from jerusalim OR i keep mecca) trigger for the muslim nations (not for oman and those from arabic peninsula except aden) but there is no WAR...( i guess they only get cb on me?) my opinion is that they should all dow me and give possibility of conquering arabian peninsula in hard fought defensive war :D )

-now, when this "mod"( resurgent byz) was first released, there was an event that , in the first play years, i could get the option to go PAGAN and get cores on all former roman empire...what happened to it?

VERY IMPORTANT----the "mameluks revolt"( when need to release them and give as well provimces away; becouse no cores on cyrenica, etc...i could not not fully annex them ( i always play on resonable bb limit + on very hard i have no need of bb wars); so i just took my core back and VASSALIZED them...however when the expire date came around i LOST all cores on them ( even if they were 4 provinces left, egypt and 3 others that were no cores on...)...furthermore, beeing catholic byz in this case, i did NOT get the event that could change my tech to LATIN ( i presume becouse i "lost" against the resurgent mameluks?)
what i want to get to is that should i not imherit them again IF they are my vassal , one province?( presuming that byz would have cores on all its provinces when need to release it)
 
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Thanks YodaMaster, Donm and me are father and son, and so we have fake arguements between Byzantine and Ottoman.
This is a very good mod though and I enjoy it greatly. As far as I am considered, my father's endeavor into this project is quite a undertaking and it is very successful.
 
beregic said:
"north african campaign" ; that is the last event that triggers after all the other "campaigns"; however this particular event gives ONLY cb's and no cores, wich mean is impossible to conquer all the north african minors without getting bb wars( always on "very hard" settings here); seems to me that that event needs a follow -up( just to test it i did conquer all north africa and all i got is an event that aknoladges that and some money but STILL no cores and no culture....)

The event text itself says it's a thankless task with little reward. :p

-no core on daghenistan even if still turkish

Where's "daghenistan"?

-dalmatia, ottos starting provinces( i hear that was just fixed in a brand new version? i will look soon)

BYZ shouldn't have cores on OE's starting provinces at the beginning. Angora hasn't been under BYZ control since the 1080s.

- no cores on georgia

Why should they have cores on Georgia?

- bulgaria has core on macedonia( wich is greek).macedonia formed it at one point after i waited and helped the rebels sustain that province for hope of its defection to me :(

WAD, probably. Bulgaria would march into Macedonia every chance it got.

- when annexing mameluks; definatelly the event about releasing hedjia( MECCA) does not work well if any of those arabic provinces are owned by someone else....all 3 times i tested byz i kept owning mecca...i think that is becouse the hedjia revoltee file does NOT include mecca...

Likewise, I don't think the PAP revolt file includes Avignon.

-now, when this "mod"( resurgent byz) was first released, there was an event that , in the first play years, i could get the option to go PAGAN and get cores on all former roman empire...what happened to it?

Too completely bonkers, even for a Resurgent Byzantium mod.
 
JohnnyReb said:
The event text itself says it's a thankless task with little reward. :p



Where's "daghenistan"?



BYZ shouldn't have cores on OE's starting provinces at the beginning. Angora hasn't been under BYZ control since the 1080s.



Why should they have cores on Georgia?



WAD, probably. Bulgaria would march into Macedonia every chance it got.



Likewise, I don't think the PAP revolt file includes Avignon.



Too completely bonkers, even for a Resurgent Byzantium mod.

-south of astrakan
-fair enough, i usually let morea get it
- i mean get cores on georgia IF own armenia and get its events ( get it in a specific "campaign")
-but not as a REVOLTEE province no?
-avignon not represented on regular map(if "provence" would unbalance things overall) however mecca IS.
- "bonkers" maybe, but definatelly a LOT of fun ;) and why not getting THAT event IF all the other campaigns have been sucessfull???? would be a dream that could have been realized at THAT point no?( isomething for after 1700's campaign, unlike the one i mentioned wicg triggers for 1 starting province byz :rofl: :rofl: )
and since talking about "bonker", i remember i tried as pagan byz to conquest all europe with all those cores but it was not as easy as it seems since would requier many 1 province minor annexation if the player does not wait around for a while for minors to be eaten first ;)
 
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You can't define a "scenario-specific" revolt.txt. Only possibility is to replace the whole file but it could be a real problem for maintenance of the scenario since this file is subject to frequent changes. Or you could provide instructions for modification of the original file but such modification is not easy for all users...
 
In my own opinion, once Rome has been annexed and part of my empire, who said I would let, a false pope form. My cousin is in charge of the bishopry in Rome. Down with catholicism and up with orthodoxy.
 
The game, once who annexed the papal states, makes it very hard for a war in the balkans, especially on very hard...believe me. Once a new papacy would form, it would in theory, eliminate the point for the catholics trying to retake Rome. Unfortunately in my game, the Portuguese, my friends and then enemy in Italy, had annexed the Papal states. For the Byzantium Triumphant, it encourages, the Roman Catholic world to take action against the Rejuvinated Roman/Byzantine Empire.
 
I am having trouble getting AGCEEP to load with the Byzantium Triumphant scenario. I followed the (threadbare) instructions to the letter, but initially there was no option for the scenario on the scenario selection screen in the game. I tried to fix this by cut-and-pasting the .eug file, which allowed me to select the scenario, but even then as the green bar was almost full, an error window came up with something about Fantasy Resurgent Granada. I had to either abort, retry, or ignore, and all lead to a CTD.

What should I do? Is there any way to get a more detailed DL procedure for those of us who haven't done this a whole lot? Thanks.