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Code:
#(1644-1680) We have no choice but to rely on foreign trade
#by sturmvogel
event = {
	id = 317016
	trigger = {
        [COLOR=YellowGreen]OR = {
			owned = { province = 649 data = -1 } #Hebei
			owned = { province = 657 data = -1 } #Kowloon
        	        owned = { province = 659 data = -1 } #Guangdong
			owned = { province = 660 data = -1 } #Hainan
			owned = { province = 661 data = -1 } #Guanxi
			owned = { province = 662 data = -1 } #Hanoi
			owned = { province = 663 data = -1 } #Tanh Noah
			owned = { province = 664 data = -1 } #Da Nang
			owned = { province = 665 data = -1 } #Dalat
			owned = { province = 666 data = -1 } #Mekong Delta
		}[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = U14
	name = "EVENTNAME317016" #We have no choice but to rely on foreign trade
	desc = "EVENTHIST317016"
	#-#
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1644 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1680 }
	
	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME317016A" #Needs must when the devil drives
		command = { type = merchants value = 6 }
		command = { type = trade value = 500 }
		command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = -3 }
		command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 3 }
       	command = { type = relation which = HOL value = -50 }
      	command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -50 }
	}
}
#(1655-1662) Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila
#by sturmvogel
event = {
	id = 317003
	trigger = {
        [COLOR=YellowGreen]event = 338454 #Province_Spec690: Southern Ming aware of European settlement of Luzon[/COLOR]
        owned = { province = 689 data = HOL } #Taiwan
		[COLOR=Red]control = { province = 689 data = HOL }[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = U14
	name = "EVENTNAME317003" #Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila
	desc = "EVENTHIST317003"
	#-#
	
	date = { day = 1 month = august year = 1655 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1662 }
	
	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME317003A" #We must punish [COLOR=YellowGreen]the Westerners[/COLOR] by denying them trade
		command = { type = addcore which = 689 } #Taiwan
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -100 }
       	command = { type = relation which = HOL value = -25 }
       	[COLOR=Red]command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -50 }[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=YellowGreen]command = { type = trigger which = 338455 } #Province_Spec690: Trade disrupted with China
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 317017 } #U14: Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila[/COLOR]
		command = { type = trigger which = 186081 } #HOL: Koxinga claims sovereignity over Taiwan and disrupts trade
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME317003B" #Leave the Westerners alone
		[COLOR=YellowGreen]command = { type = sleepevent which = 317017 } #U14: Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila[/COLOR]		command = { type = treasury value = -150 }
	}
}
#Sources
#[url]http://www.gutenberg-e.org/andrade/andrade10.html[/url]
#(1655-1662) Koxinga claims sovereignty over Taiwan and disrupts trade
#by sturmvogel
event = {
	id = 186081 #triggered by U14_317003: Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila
	random = no
	country = HOL
	name = "EVENTNAME186081" #Koxinga claims sovereignty over Taiwan and disrupts trade
	desc = "EVENTHIST186081"
	#-#
	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME186081A" #Trade has been disrupted
		command = { type = merchants value = -1 }
		command = { type = trade value = -100 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 689 value = -2 } #Taiwan
       	command = { type = relation which = U14 value = -25 }
	}
}
#(1655-1662) Koxinga claims sovereignty over Taiwan and disrupts trade
#by sturmvogel
event = {
	id = 338455 #triggered by U14_317003/U14_317017: Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila
	random = no
	province = 690
	name = "EVENTNAME186081" #Koxinga claims sovereignty over Taiwan and disrupts trade
	desc = "EVENTHIST338455"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME186081A" #Trade has been disrupted
		command = { type = merchants value = -1 }
		command = { type = trade value = -200 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 690 value = -1 } #Luzon
       	command = { type = relation which = U14 value = -50 }
	}
}
EVENTNAME317016;We have no choice but to rely on foreign trade;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST317016;Cut off from its traditional sources of revenue the remnant Ming rulers had little choice but to turn to foreign trade to fund their efforts to restore their dynasty's fortunes. Neither the Spanish nor the Dutch were happy to have Chinese competitors intrude on turf they regarded as their own.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME317016A;needs must when the devil drives;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTNAME317003;Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST317003;By 1655 Zheng Chenggong, known as Koxinga in the West from his title of Guoxingye (Lord of the Imperial Surname), which was pronounced "Kok seng ia" in southern Fujianese, had become predominant in the Ming court and he was determined to prevent the Western powers from interfering with Ming trade and to assert sovereignity over Taiwan's native inhabitants. He sent a letter to the VOC's Governor of Taiwan in August 1655. The Spanish, wrote Chenggong, had been mistreating his sailors, and he had therefore issued an edict that forbade Chinese to sail to Manila on pain of death. He enclosed a copy of the edict and requested that the Governor propagate it in Formosa and enforce it by confiscating the junks and property of any who disobeyed. But the language of the edict raised the hackles of the VOC. First, it said that the Dutch "behave more like animals than Christians." Second, it referred to Chinese who lived in the Dutch colony as Chenggong's subjects. Third, and most important, it threatened punishment not only for Chinese but also for "anyone outside of our nation who extends money for trade with Manila." If company officials did as Chenggong asked and published the edict, they would be admitting that Chenggong had sovereignty over the Chinese colonists in Formosa. The Governor and the council decided they must refuse Chenggong's request to preserve "the sovereignty of the Netherlanders." They replied with a "compliment letter," which politely declined his request.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME317003A;We must punish the Spanish by denying them trade;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME317003B;Leave the Westerners alone;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTNAME186081;Koxinga claims sovereignty over Taiwan and disrupts trade;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST186081;By 1655 Zheng Chenggong, known as Koxinga in the West from his title of Guoxingye (Lord of the Imperial Surname), which was pronounced "Kok seng ia" in southern Fujianese, had become predominant in the Ming court and he was determined to prevent the Western powers from interfering with Ming trade and to assert sovereignity over Taiwan's native inhabitants. He sent a letter to the VOC's Governor of Taiwan in August 1655. The Spanish, wrote Chenggong, had been mistreating his sailors, and he had therefore issued an edict that forbade Chinese to sail to Manila on pain of death. He enclosed a copy of the edict and requested that the Governor propagate it in Formosa and enforce it by confiscating the junks and property of any who disobeyed. But the language of the edict raised the hackles of the VOC. First, it said that the Dutch "behave more like animals than Christians." Second, it referred to Chinese who lived in the Dutch colony as Chenggong's subjects. Third, and most important, it threatened punishment not only for Chinese but also for "anyone outside of our nation who extends money for trade with Manila." If company officials did as Chenggong asked and published the edict, they would be admitting that Chenggong had sovereignty over the Chinese colonists in Formosa. The Governor and the council decided they must refuse Chenggong's request to preserve "the sovereignty of the Netherlanders." They replied with a "compliment letter," which politely declined his request. The VOC also sent a small fleet to the coast of China, but they found no sign of preparations for invasion. However, Zheng seems to have intimidated many of the Chinese merchants who normally came to trade in Taiwan because very few would brave his displeasure over the next few years.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME186081A;Trade has been disrupted;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTHIST338455;By 1655 Zheng Chenggong, known as Koxinga in the West from his title of Guoxingye (Lord of the Imperial Surname), which was pronounced "Kok seng ia" in southern Fujianese, had become predominant in the Ming court and he was determined to prevent the Western powers from interfering with Ming trade and to assert sovereignity over Taiwan's native inhabitants. He sent a letter to the Governor of Taiwan in August 1655. The Spanish, wrote Chenggong, had been mistreating his sailors, and he had therefore issued an edict that forbade Chinese to sail to Manila on pain of death. He enclosed a copy of the edict and requested that the Governor propagate it in Formosa and enforce it by confiscating the junks and property of any who disobeyed. But the language of the edict raised the hackles of the Europeans. First, it said that they "behave more like animals than Christians." Second, it referred to Chinese who lived in the colony as Chenggong's subjects. Third, and most important, it threatened punishment not only for Chinese but also for "anyone outside of our nation who extends money for trade with Manila." They replied with a "compliment letter," which politely declined his request. The end result of this was a lot fewer junks calling at Manila.;;;;;;;;;;
Edit: I really don't want to write paired ownership/controlled triggers for 317016, but I think that its pretty unlikely that the Southern Ming won't control at least one of these provinces. 317017 renumbered to 317003
Replaced Spanish event, with province_spec event and modified text
 
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Code:
#(1650-1662) Koxinga already in Manchu service
event = {
	id = 317018
	trigger = {
		leader = 032315 #CHI: Koxinga
	}
	random = no
	country = U14
	name = "EVENTNAME317018" #Koxinga already in Manchu service
	desc = "EVENTHIST317018"
	#-#Koxinga is already serving with our enemies.

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1650 }
	offset = 0
	deathdate = { day = 23 month = august year = 1662 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 0147800 } #Koxinga
	}
}
#(1650-1662) Koxinga already in Ming service
event = {
	id = 147059
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			monarch = 032015 #Shunzhi
			monarch = 032316 #Kangxi
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = CHI
	name = "EVENTNAME147059" #Koxinga already in Ming service
	desc = "EVENTHIST317018"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1646 }
	offset = 0
	deathdate = { day = 23 month = august year = 1662 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 032315 } #Koxinga
	}
}
EVENTNAME317018;Koxinga already in Manchu service;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST317018;Koxinga is already serving with our enemies.;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTNAME147059;Koxinga already in Manchu service;;;;;;;;;;

I think that these will work since 147059 will test first.

The Manchus made an attempt to bribe him into their service around 1653 or so. How can I replicate that since we can't sleep active leaders?

I've got a couple of books ordered for the Southern Ming so hopefully will be able to flesh out this whole sequence once I've absorbed them.
 
About post #361, is ownership of Guangdong really necessary for this event to happen? Southern Ming could form even without this province (see CHI_147127 and following events for Ming no longer holds China).

317003 was available (but I forgot to remove useless event). 317017 renumbered to 317003.

What happens if Spain owns Luzon but another colonizer owns Taiwan (or the other way)? Of course historical event will not fire but couldn't some effects of the event still apply?


For post #362 and Koxinga, do I have to understand Koxinga could be a leader for the Qing dynasty?
If the answer is no, proposal should be reworked according to post #360.
If yes, it seems very strange to me.
 
YodaMaster said:
About post #361, is ownership of Guangdong really necessary for this event to happen? Southern Ming could form even without this province (see CHI_147127 and following events for Ming no longer holds China).
The Southern Ming should own a coastal province to actually have any foreign trade. Should I liberalize this to add Guanxi, Kowloon or Hainan to the trigger?

YodaMaster said:
What happens if Spain owns Luzon but another colonizer owns Taiwan (or the other way)? Of course historical event will not fire but couldn't some effects of the event still apply?
I think that you're correct. Some variant would fire if Taiwan is owned by the Portuguese, English or French, to cover all the likely candidates. Or if Luzon were owned by any of these same people. But what's the best way to do this? Do you think I should mirror the current sequence for each of the possible owners or should I perhaps do a Province_Spec version with very general text? Although this last could get weird with humans playing some other East Asian nation.

YodaMaster said:
For post #362 and Koxinga, do I have to understand Koxinga could be a leader for the Qing dynasty?
If the answer is no, proposal should be reworked according to post #360.
If yes, it seems very strange to me.
Koxinga could become a Qing leader if the Southern Ming are conquered very quickly (before his start date) or if he accepted the bribe. Still not sure how to do that last.
 
sturmvogel said:
The Southern Ming should own a coastal province to actually have any foreign trade. Should I liberalize this to add Guanxi, Kowloon or Hainan to the trigger?
Any port between Mekong Delta (we never know...) and Hebei, including Hainan, then.


sturmvogel said:
I think that you're correct. Some variant would fire if Taiwan is owned by the Portuguese, English or French, to cover all the likely candidates. Or if Luzon were owned by any of these same people. But what's the best way to do this? Do you think I should mirror the current sequence for each of the possible owners or should I perhaps do a Province_Spec version with very general text? Although this last could get weird with humans playing some other East Asian nation.
You can have a provincespec event for Luzon checking continent = Europe, ownership of Luzon by Spain (but is it mandatory?) and existence of U14. This event will trigger a U14 event.


sturmvogel said:
Koxinga could become a Qing leader if the Southern Ming are conquered very quickly (before his start date) or if he accepted the bribe. Still not sure how to do that last.
Bribe? We have no event for this. MCH_10022 "Coastal Evacuation" event could be involved then.

I'm convinced 032315 (Koxinga in leaders.chi) should be dormant, woken by a CHI event if Ming monarch just before his startdate.
The same event will be duplicated for U14 and corresponding U14 leader but slept by the CHI event (Koxinga will be in game for U14 if CHI becomes U14 after the startdate).
I have no idea for the Bribe event but I suppose it is for CHI with Qing dynasty (=> 032315 to be woken) and maybe MCH (?).
 
YodaMaster said:
You can have a provincespec event for Luzon checking continent = Europe, ownership of Luzon by Spain (but is it mandatory?) and existence of U14. This event will trigger a U14 event.
Something like this? And I don't think that Spanish ownership of Luzon is critical.
Code:
#(1644-1683) Southern Ming aware of European settlement of Luzon
event = {
	id = 338454
	trigger = {
		exists = U14
		continent = europe
	}
	random = no
	province = 690 #Luzon
	name = "EVENTNAME338454" #Southern Ming aware of European settlement of Luzon
	desc = "EVENTHIST338454"
	#-#

	date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1644 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 0 month = january year = 1683}

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
       	        [COLOR=YellowGreen]command = { type = relation which = U14 value = -10 }[/COLOR]
	}
}
EVENTNAME338454;Southern Ming aware of European settlement of Luzon;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST338454;The Southern Ming have become aware of European settlement of Luzon.;;;;;;;;;;

And then 317003, formerly 317017, would have this as a trigger, and then trigger another province_spec event for Luzon that would replace the Spanish 285284.
And I suppose I could do a parallel version for Taiwan for all non-Dutch European owners. What do you think?
 
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sturmvogel said:
And then 317003, formerly 317017, would have this as a trigger, and then trigger another province_spec event for Luzon that would replace the Spanish 285284.
And I suppose I could do a parallel version for Taiwan for all non-Dutch European owners. What do you think?
Garbon said:
I'd wonder why I should care that the Southern Ming have become aware of European settlement.
Just for a duplicate of U14 event if Luzon is owned by another European country than Netherlands.

Condition of proposed event should test if Taiwan is not owned by HOL, to prevent firing for Netherlands. This event should directly fire the duplicate of the U14 event. U14 original event and this provincespec event should sleep each other.
 
sturmvogel said:
Shouldn't we have a version of MCH 10022 for China in the common event that the Manchus have become China by 1661?
Yes, maybe we should check other Manchus events to see if some could not be involved for an early MCH=>CHI change before 1683.
 
Garbon said:
I'd wonder why I should care that the Southern Ming have become aware of European settlement.
True, but do you have any suggestions for alternative text? This is really just for the Southern Ming, but I have to have some text to display. Or do I?
 
sturmvogel said:
True, but do you have any suggestions for alternative text? This is really just for the Southern Ming, but I have to have some text to display. Or do I?

Yea, I mean the weird bit is just the dummy event. It doesn't do anything or really say much. Even some small relation change like 5 or 10, might help.
 
Code:
#(1655-1662) Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila
event = {
	id = 317017
	trigger = {
		event = 338454 #Province_Spec690: Southern Ming aware of European settlement of Luzon
        NOT = {
        	owned = { province = 689 data = HOL } #Taiwan
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = U14
	name = "EVENTNAME317003" #Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila
	desc = "EVENTHIST317017"
	#-#
	
	date = { day = 1 month = august year = 1655 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1662 }
	
	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME317003A" #We must punish the Westerners by denying them trade
		command = { type = addcore which = 689 } #Taiwan
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -100 }
        	command = { type = relation which = HOL value = -25 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 338455 } #Province_Spec690: Trade disrupted with China
		command = { type = trigger which = 338456 } #Province_Spec689: Koxinga claims sovereignity over Taiwan and disrupts trade
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 317003 } #U14: Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila		
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME317003B" #Leave the Westerners alone
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 317003 } #U14: Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila		
		command = { type = treasury value = -150 }
	}
}
#(1655-1662) Koxinga claims sovereignity over Taiwan and disrupts trade
#by sturmvogel
event = {
	id = 338456 #triggered by U14_317017: Zheng Chenggong forbids trade with Manila
	random = no
	province = 689 #Taiwan
	name = "EVENTNAME186081" #Koxinga claims sovereignity over Taiwan and disrupts trade
	desc = "EVENTHIST338456"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME186081A" #Trade has been disrupted
		command = { type = merchants value = -1 }
		command = { type = trade value = -100 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 689 value = -2 } #Taiwan
        	command = { type = relation which = U14 value = -25 }
	}
}
EVENTHIST317017;By 1655 Zheng Chenggong, known as Koxinga in the West from his title of Guoxingye (Lord of the Imperial Surname), which was pronounced "Kok seng ia" in southern Fujianese, had become predominant in the Ming court and he was determined to prevent the Western powers from interfering with Ming trade and to assert sovereignity over Taiwan's native inhabitants. He sent a letter to the Governor of Taiwan in August 1655. The Spanish, wrote Chenggong, had been mistreating his sailors, and he had therefore issued an edict that forbade Chinese to sail to Manila on pain of death. He enclosed a copy of the edict and requested that the Governor propagate it in Formosa and enforce it by confiscating the junks and property of any who disobeyed. But the language of the edict raised the hackles of the Westerners. First, it said that they "behave more like animals than Christians." Second, it referred to Chinese who lived in the colony as Chenggong's subjects. Third, and most important, it threatened punishment not only for Chinese but also for "anyone outside of our nation who extends money for trade with Manila." If officials did as Chenggong asked and published the edict, they would be admitting that Chenggong had sovereignty over the Chinese colonists in Formosa. The Governor and the council decided they must refuse Chenggong's request to preserve "their sovereignty." They replied with a "compliment letter," which politely declined his request.;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTHIST338456;By 1655 Zheng Chenggong, known as Koxinga in the West from his title of Guoxingye (Lord of the Imperial Surname), which was pronounced "Kok seng ia" in southern Fujianese, had become predominant in the Ming court and he was determined to prevent the Western powers from interfering with Ming trade and to assert sovereignity over Taiwan's native inhabitants. He sent a letter to the Governor of Taiwan in August 1655. The Spanish, wrote Chenggong, had been mistreating his sailors, and he had therefore issued an edict that forbade Chinese to sail to Manila on pain of death. He enclosed a copy of the edict and requested that the Governor propagate it in Formosa and enforce it by confiscating the junks and property of any who disobeyed. But the language of the edict raised the hackles of the Europeans. First, it said that they "behave more like animals than Christians." Second, it referred to Chinese who lived in the colony as Chenggong's subjects. Third, and most important, it threatened punishment not only for Chinese but also for "anyone outside of our nation who extends money for trade with Manila." If company officials did as Chenggong asked and published the edict, they would be admitting that Chenggong had sovereignty over the Chinese colonists in Formosa. The Governor and the council decided they must refuse Chenggong's request to preserve "their sovereignty." They replied with a "compliment letter," which politely declined his request. A small fleet was sent to the coast of China, but they found no sign of preparations for invasion. However, Zheng seems to have intimidated many of the Chinese merchants who normally came to trade in Taiwan because very few would brave his displeasure over the next few years.;;;;;;;;;;
 
sturmvogel said:
Code:
#(1650-1662) Koxinga already in Manchu service
event = {
	id = 317018
	trigger = {
		leader = 032315 #CHI: Koxinga
	}
	random = no
	country = U14
	name = "EVENTNAME317018" #Koxinga already in Manchu service
	desc = "EVENTHIST317018"
	#-#Koxinga is already serving with our enemies.

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1650 }
	offset = 0
	deathdate = { day = 23 month = august year = 1662 }


	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 0147800 } #Koxinga
	}
}
#(1650-1662) Koxinga already in Ming service
event = {
	id = 147059
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			monarch = 032015 #Shunzhi
			monarch = 032316 #Kangxi
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = CHI
	name = "EVENTNAME147059" #Koxinga already in Ming service
	desc = "EVENTHIST317018"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1646 }
	offset = 0
	deathdate = { day = 23 month = august year = 1662 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 032315 } #Koxinga
	}
}
EVENTNAME317018;Koxinga already in Manchu service;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST317018;Koxinga is already serving with our enemies.;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTNAME147059;Koxinga already in Manchu service;;;;;;;;;;

I think that these will work since 147059 will test first.

The Manchus made an attempt to bribe him into their service around 1653 or so. How can I replicate that since we can't sleep active leaders?

I've got a couple of books ordered for the Southern Ming so hopefully will be able to flesh out this whole sequence once I've absorbed them.
Yoda, this sequence doesn't take care of Koxinga adequately?
 
Not sure. I think it is better to have the two leaders dormant or at least one (and because U14 can become CHI too...) and there is a problem with the Pirates missing event for China if Qing dynasty. I will propose something based on your events.
 
YodaMaster said:
Not sure. I think it is better to have the two leaders dormant or at least one (and because U14 can become CHI too...) and there is a problem with the Pirates missing event for China if Qing dynasty. I will propose something based on your events.

I think that the Chinese version of Koxinga should be slept and only awoken if U14 doesn't exist and the Manchus do. That should ensure that he doesn't serve under the Qing and does serve the Ming if they're either China or U14.
He should not be dormant for U14 as he will always serve them if they exist.

Still can't quite figure out how to represent the bribe attempt since you can't sleep an active leader. Maybe we can have a partial representation that fires if U14 doesn't exist by 1652 and the Manchus have become China. This one wouldn't fire if he's already active for some reason, of course.

What do you think?
 
sturmvogel said:
I think that the Chinese version of Koxinga should be slept and only awoken if U14 doesn't exist and the Manchus do. That should ensure that he doesn't serve under the Qing and does serve the Ming if they're either China or U14.
He should not be dormant for U14 as he will always serve them if they exist.
You mean CHI leader dormant (not slept), right?
Agreed.

sturmvogel said:
Still can't quite figure out how to represent the bribe attempt since you can't sleep an active leader. Maybe we can have a partial representation that fires if U14 doesn't exist by 1652 and the Manchus have become China. This one wouldn't fire if he's already active for some reason, of course.

What do you think?
Good compromise.

You can propose (it will spare me some time... :) ). Don't forget the Pirates twin event to be created for Qing China (and slept if Koxinga is bribed - to be confirmed).