However if it is a vassal *of Portugal* then it makes no sense to first break the vassalage and suffer the consequences to renew it again in another event. Perhaps a condition for that command that Ternate is no vassal of Por?
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However if it is a vassal *of Portugal* then it makes no sense to first break the vassalage and suffer the consequences to renew it again in another event. Perhaps a condition for that command that Ternate is no vassal of Por?
Good call though that'd make more sense back in the initiating Portuguese event.
In 1522 Antonio de Brito arrived in Ternate, concluded a treaty of friendship with the King, and built a fort for the Portuguese.
Code:
#(1522-1635) Portuguese vassalization of Ternate- part 1
event = {
id = 260078
trigger = {
discovered = 713 #Tindore
exists = TER
[color=yellow]NOT = {
vassal = { country = POR country = TER }
vassal = { country = TER country = POR }
}[/color]
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "EVENTNAME260078" #The Portuguese and Ternate
desc = "EVENTHIST260078"
#-#
date = { day = 0 month = may year = 1522 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1635 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME260078A" #This will help us secure the trade of the Mollucas
command = { type = trade value = 200 }
command = { type = trigger which = 308001 } #TER: The Portuguese treaty of friendship with Ternate
}
}In 1522 Antonio de Brito arrived in Ternate, concluded a treaty of friendship with the King, and built a fort for the Portuguese.
Not really. If you check it in the trigger of the POR event then Ternate being a vassal of POR disables both events.
What I meant was to add that condition to the command line for the vassalage only, meaning *if* Ternate would be a vassal of POR then still both events would fire, the player receives the info and the relations are improved - just the existing vassalage is untouched.
I don't think that makes sense. If Portugal already has Ternate as a vassal (which will probably only ever happen for a player), I don't see why Portugal should then get the trade boost and relations increase. Antonio de Brito arrival doesn't really mean the same thing in such a situation as instead you're looking at a world where Portugal already built that fort. Why would they get more income or relations bump for a fort they already had?
Okay, well let me know if you'd like me to test anything as I have existing Portugal save files for a few months before and after the event(s), so would be easy enough to run a test
What are the different implications for inheritance/annexation now regarding stab hits and/or badboy and other effects (e.g. reputation loss)?
BTW has the possible Spanish vassalisation of Portugal event sequence been fully tested for robustness - in my current game I've obviously not gone that route, but is something I could test, if need be (though as I'm already in an alliance with Spain and not vassalised by someone else it might not be the best test...).
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...ggers-list&p=10731871&viewfull=1#post10731871
Inheriting gives 0,25 BB/ province, annexing 1 BB / province.
" gives the states army and navy to the inheriting state, annexing would destroy the army and navy so the Netherlands don´t gain the ships and men.
What about a colonial war in Brasil against a free slaves kingdom? : The Quilobo dos Palmares(it wasn't big enough for a TAG , but for a event )
event = {
id = 260167
trigger = {
control = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "The quilombo dos Palmares" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "Palmares, or Quilombo dos Palmares, was a fugitive community of escaped slaves and others in colonial Brazil that developed from 1605 until its suppression in 1694. It was located in what is today the Brazilian state of Alagoas."
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1605 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1694 }
action_a = {
name = "DAMN Quilombos"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = 2 } #Iguate
command = { type = population which = 204 value = 1000 }#fugitive slaves
command = { type = provincereligion which = 204 value = pagan }#return to paganism
command = { type = revolt which = 204} #
}
event = {
id = 260168
trigger = {
event = 260167
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "Zumbi and Angola Janga" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "The kingdoms of Palmares grew and became even more consolidated., a king Ganga Zumba unificated them , He was succeded by his nephew Zumbi, who directed a war against the portuguese"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1678 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1694 }
action_a = {
name = "DAMN Zumbi"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = 5 } #Iguate
command = { type = revolt which = 204}
command = { type = revolt which = 204}
}
}event = {
id = 260169
trigger = {
260167
control = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "Fall of Palmares" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "From 1680 to 1694, the Portuguese and Zumbi, now the new king of Angola Janga, waged an almost constant war of greater or lesser violence. The Portuguese government finally brought in the famed Portuguese military commanders Domingos Jorge Velho and Bernardo Vieira de Melo. The final assault against Palmares occurred in January 1694"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1694 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1694 }
action_a = {
name = "A victory¡"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = -7 } #Iguate
command = { type = provincereligion which = 204 value = catholic }#return to prtuguese control
}
}
event = {
id = 260167
trigger = {
control = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "The quilombo dos Palmares" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "Palmares, or Quilombo dos Palmares, was a fugitive community of escaped slaves and others in colonial Brazil that developed from 1605 until its suppression in 1694. It was located in what is today the Brazilian state of Alagoas."
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1605 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1694 }
action_a = {
name = "DAMN Quilombos"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = 2 } #Iguate
command = { type = population which = 204 value = 1000 }#fugitive slaves
command = { type = provincereligion which = 204 value = pagan }#return to paganism
command = { type = revolt which = 204} #
}
event = {
id = 260168
trigger = {
event = 260167
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "Zumbi and Angola Janga" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "The kingdoms of Palmares grew and became even more consolidated., a king Ganga Zumba unificated them , He was succeded by his nephew Zumbi, who directed a war against the portuguese"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1678 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1694 }
action_a = {
name = "DAMN Zumbi"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = 5 } #Iguate
command = { type = revolt which = 204}
command = { type = revolt which = 204}
}
}event = {
id = 260169
trigger = {
260167
control = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "Fall of Palmares" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "From 1680 to 1694, the Portuguese and Zumbi, now the new king of Angola Janga, waged an almost constant war of greater or lesser violence. The Portuguese government finally brought in the famed Portuguese military commanders Domingos Jorge Velho and Bernardo Vieira de Melo. The final assault against Palmares occurred in January 1694"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1694 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1694 }
action_a = {
name = "A victory¡"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = -7 } #Iguate
command = { type = provincereligion which = 204 value = catholic }#return to prtuguese control
}
}
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Against what did they revolt?
Only against POR? Or against anyone holding slaves - e.g. SPA that expanded there or BRA that was released earlier?
What about a POR that goes full "free subjects" on the sliders? Would the revolt then happen too or should a trigger be added with the condition that a certain amount of oppression is needed for it?
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...his-week-s-debate-Free-Subjects-versus-Serdom
Where do the 1000 population come from? Shouldn´t they be lowered in one of the other provinces from where they fled?
What about an enddate of 20.11.1695 (Zumbis execution) to nullify the provincial revoltrisk again?
Only against POR? Or against anyone holding slaves - e.g. SPA that expanded there or BRA that was released earlier?
What about a POR that goes full "free subjects" on the sliders? Would the revolt then happen too or should a trigger be added with the condition that a certain amount of oppression is needed for it?
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...his-week-s-debate-Free-Subjects-versus-Serdom
Where do the 1000 population come from? Shouldn´t they be lowered in one of the other provinces from where they fled?
What about an enddate of 20.11.1695 (Zumbis execution) to nullify the provincial revoltrisk again?
There isnt a country that banned the slavery until the XIX century(the free subjets is about free peasents no free slaves)... The slaves revolt against any country with slaves , Portugal ,The netherlands or any other...
About the increase in population : can be ignored ,The date of Zumbi execution is better that the fall of Palmares:
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1694 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day = 20 month = november year = 1695 }#Zumbi ejecution
So it should better be a provincespecific event for ANY country and not an event only for PORtugal?
Yeah , any country (including Brazil that use slaves until late XIX) :
Code:
event = {
id = 260167
trigger = {
control = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 }
}
random = no
province = 204
name = "The quilombo dos Palmares" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "Palmares, or Quilombo dos Palmares, was a fugitive community of escaped slaves and others in colonial Brazil that developed from 1605 until its suppression in 1694. It was located in what is today the Brazilian state of Alagoas."
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1605 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1695 }
action_a = {
name = "DAMN Quilombos"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = 2 } #Iguate -fugitive slaves
command = { type = provincereligion which = 204 value = pagan }#return to paganism
command = { type = revolt which = 204} #
}
event = {
id = 260168
trigger = {
event = 260167
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
}
random = no
province = 204
name = "Zumbi and Angola Janga" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "The kingdoms of Palmares grew and became even more consolidated., a king Ganga Zumba unificated them , He was succeded by his nephew Zumbi, who directed a war against the portuguese"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1678 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1695 }
action_a = {
name = "DAMN Zumbi"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = 5 } #Iguate
command = { type = revolt which = 204}
command = { type = revolt which = 204}
}
}event = {
id = 260169
trigger = {
260167
control = { province = 204 data = -1 } #Iguate
owned = { province = 204 data = -1 } #victory from the quilombo
}
random = no
province = 204
name = "Fall of Palmares" #Pinto Revolt
desc = "From 1680 to 1694, the Portuguese and Zumbi, now the new king of Angola Janga, waged an almost constant war of greater or lesser violence. The Portuguese government finally brought in the famed Portuguese military commanders Domingos Jorge Velho and Bernardo Vieira de Melo. The final assault against Palmares occurred in January 1694"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1694 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1695 }
action_a = {
name = "A victory¡"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 204 value = -7 } #Iguate
command = { type = provincereligion which = 204 value = catholic }#return to portuguese control
}
}
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A change in the event of Ravasco atacks Zanzibar:
The case is that Zanzibar was part of the portuguese empire (a vassal) until the omanese atack in the XVII century. And there was a fort in Pemba island(not in the map) near Zanzibar...
Code:
#(1503-1520) Ravasco attacks Zanzibar
event = {
id = 260108
trigger = {
exists = ZAN
event = 260107 #POR: The Island of Zanzibar
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "EVENTNAME260108" #Attack on Zanzibar
desc = "EVENTHIST260108"
#-#In 1503 Ruy Lourenco Ravasco was separated from the 1503 fleet led by Antonio da Saldanha to blockade the Red Sea. He took refuge in Kilwa where he was well-treated, but then he seized 20 ships in the Straits of Zanzibar during a two month patrol, but he freed them if a cash ransom was paid. When he sailed to Zanzibar to resupply he attempted to overawe the locals. After a brief skirmish on one of the beaches its sheik agreed to pay tribute to Portugal. This was done under unwillingly and only one other payment was made until the Portuguese conquered Mombasa in 1598 and became a much more imminent threat. Despite its ill-treatment at the hands of Ravasco, Zanzibar remained friendly with the Portuguese until they were occupied by the Omanis nearly two centuries later.
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1503 }
offset = 120
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1520 }
action_a ={
name = "ACTIONNAME260108A" #What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine
command = { type = treasury value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ZAN value = -25 }
[B] [COLOR="#00FF00"] command = { type = vassal which = ZAN }[/COLOR][/B]
command = { type = trigger which = 373001 } #ZAN: A pirate by any other name
}
}
#(1503-1520) A pirate by any other name
event = {
id = 373001 #triggered by POR_260108
random = no
country = ZAN
name = "EVENTNAME373001" #A pirate by any other name
desc = "EVENTHIST373001"
#-#Despite its ill-treatment at the hands of Ravasco, Zanzibar recognized Portugal's naval dominance and remained friendly with the Portuguese until Portugal could no longer protect it.
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME373001A" #Prudence dictates that we swallow our pride ,#porque no vasallo?
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 100 }
command = { type = treasury value = -25 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME373001B" #We must defend ourselves
[B] [COLOR="#00FF00"] command = { type = breakvassal which = POR }[/COLOR][/B]
command = { type = treasury value = -25 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 } #unhappy merchants
command = { type = casusbelli which = POR value = 12 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = -100 }
}
}
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I propose a change in this spanish monarchs(based in EUIII datafiles, the originals are very low with good kings like Carlos III and very high with the worst king of Spain Fernando VII ) :
Code:
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0127514 }
startdate = {
day = 10
month = july
year = 1746
}
deathdate = {
day = 10
month = august
year = 1759
}
name = "Fernando VI"
DIP = [COLOR="#00FF00"]4 [/COLOR](3)
ADM = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]5 [/COLOR](3)
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0127515 }
startdate = {
day = 11
month = august
year = 1759
}
deathdate = {
day = 14
month = december
year = 1788
}
name = "Carlos III"
DIP = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]5[/COLOR] (4)
ADM = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]7 [/COLOR] (4)
MIL = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]6[/COLOR] (4)
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0127516 }
startdate = {
day = 15
month = december
year = 1788
}
deathdate = {
day = 20
month = january
year = 1819
}
name = "Carlos IV"
DIP = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]5[/COLOR] (4)
ADM = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]3[/COLOR] (2)#the godoy event leaves Carlos with 0 ADM¡
MIL = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]4[/COLOR] (6)#Napoleon and the british beat Spain
dormant = no
remark = "Abdicated in favour of his son (March 1808)"
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0127530 }
startdate = {
day = 6
month = june
year = 1808
}
deathdate = {
day = 29
month = september
year = 1833
}
name = "Fernando VII"
DIP = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]5[/COLOR] (6)
ADM = 4#perhaps 3 , lost the war against the colonies
MIL = 4
dormant = yes
remark = "Succeeds José after the Bonapartists' defeat"
}Is it intentinonal that Bahrain is no Treaty of Tordesillas core for Portugal or was it left out accidentally?
If the the latter then I suggest to add province 509 to the POR ToT list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain#Portuguese_control
If the the latter then I suggest to add province 509 to the POR ToT list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain#Portuguese_control
Code:
POR = {
183 #Amapa
195 #Mato Grosso
196 #Goias
197 #Caracas
198 #Marajo
199 #Para
200 #Tiracambu
201 #Maranhao
202 #Parnaiba
203 #Recife
204 #Iguatu
205 #Pernambuc
206 #Alagoas
207 #Diamentina
208 #Minas Gerais
209 #Salvador
210 #Itaimas
211 #Niteroi
212 #Araxa
213 #Curitiba
214 #Cangucu
215 #Uruguay
504 #Mascate
505 #Al Kharam
[color=yellow]509 #Bahrain[/color]
549 #Goa
573 #Cochin
677 #Malacca
695 #Sabah
696 #Brunei
697 #Sarawak
698 #Bandjarmasin
...
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