Because Vaud and Valais are irrelevant for 1513, is there a need for Savoy to be involved then? Condition of ownership of Savoie by Savoy and triggering of SAV_17413 (and this event itself) should be removed. Or does it still make sense?
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i agree , the trigger that HEL must own province 405, should be removed
SAV owning 405, not HEL.
And what about SAV_17413 then? Removed too?
to answer post 141.
Because Vaud and Valais are irrelevant for 1513, is there a need for Savoy to be involved then? Condition of ownership of Savoie by Savoy and triggering of SAV_17413 (and this event itself) should be removed. Or does it still make sense?
it does make sense for SAV involvement
But SAV_17413 is about a loss in Savoie province that will goes to Schwyz province with your modifications (and not Bern in current version that is neighbour of Savoie).
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
SAV event is a loss of area ( which we do not have in our map) , while the HEL event is about the gain of a new member in Schwyz with the added occupation of valais and vaud from SAV.
Valais and Vaud did not become members of the swiss till the 19th century and also valias between the 1th and 19th century where their own republic.
so, linking these events is historical, applying added manpower or monies is really not
Here is the SAV event:
Code:
#(1513-1539) Swiss expansion
event = {
id = 17413 #triggered by HEL_20307
random = no
country = SAV
name = "EVENTNAME17413" #Swiss expansion
desc = "EVENTHIST17413"
#-#
action_a = {
name = "ALAS"
command = { type = population which = 405 value = -5000 } #Savoie
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 405 value = -1 } #Savoie
command = { type = provincetax which = 405 value = -1 } #Savoie
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = HEL value = 240 } #renounced claim in 1559
command = { type = land value = -200 } #good soldiers
}
}Where do the population, provincemanpower and provincetax (that Savoie will lose) go? Shouldn't it be in Bern anyway? Should they just vanish?
text should be changed to say "and the Swiss used their power to expand their influence, taking the Valais and Vaud from Savoy"
so, yes, SAV lost their manpower in those areas, but the Swiss did not gain them, these areas where semi independent or totally indepent similar to the grisons in schwyz.
valais and vaud hired their men to HEL, FRA, MLO and SAV until the time of napoleon
so, yes, SAV loses their manpower etc and the swiss do not gain in bern the manpower etc
text should be changed to say "and the Swiss used their power to expand their influence, taking the Valais and Vaud away from Savoy"
so, yes, SAV lost their manpower in those areas, but the Swiss did not gain them, these areas where semi independent or totally indepent similar to the grisons in schwyz.
valais and vaud hired their men to HEL, FRA, MLO and SAV until the time of napoleon
so, yes, SAV loses their manpower etc and the swiss do not gain in bern the manpower etc
Ok, but SAV_17413 should check if Savoie is owned by Savoy and Bern is owned by Switzerland then. In this case, no need to trigger it from the HEL event and just give it dates.
EDIT: this event could be for any country owning Savoie and not only Savoy (a provincespec event). Only remaining condition for this province spec event will be Bern owned by Switzerland (and Savoie not owned by Switzerland too). Good idea?
EDIT: this event could be for any country owning Savoie and not only Savoy (a provincespec event). Only remaining condition for this province spec event will be Bern owned by Switzerland (and Savoie not owned by Switzerland too). Good idea?
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i initially choose 4 new leaders , but i think 2 is plenty, thoughts?
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 058802 }
category = general
name = "Freidrich VII" #count of Toggenburg
startdate = {
day = 21
month = june
year = 1424
}
deathdate = {
day = 20
month = march
year = 1429
}
rank = 3
movement = 4
fire = 2
shock = 3
siege = 1
dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 058803 }
category = general
name = "Adrian von Bubenberg"
startdate = {
day = 03
month = april
year = 1476
}
deathdate = {
day = 11
month = august
year = 1479
}
rank = 3
movement = 2
fire = 3
shock = 2
siege = 0
dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 058802 }
category = general
name = "Freidrich VII" #count of Toggenburg
startdate = {
day = 21
month = june
year = 1424
}
deathdate = {
day = 20
month = march
year = 1429
}
rank = 3
movement = 4
fire = 2
shock = 3
siege = 1
dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 058803 }
category = general
name = "Adrian von Bubenberg"
startdate = {
day = 03
month = april
year = 1476
}
deathdate = {
day = 11
month = august
year = 1479
}
rank = 3
movement = 2
fire = 3
shock = 2
siege = 0
dormant = no
}