• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
Honestly this game looks cool but if this another one of theses PDX limitless DLC scam, and it seems to be the case, then it is without me.

Bring back great vanilla games with 2/3 expansion max or forget about my money.
I get what you mean (I've also given up on CK/EU) but at the same time, you're not obliged to buy any of the DLC and the base game is perfectly fine on it's own and does still get updated with the free patches that come along with the DLC releases. You can also just buy the DLC that you think is interesting. Don't be pressured into thinking you need to buy everything to enjoy the game.

On the other hand, the price of the dlc passes is very similar to the old style expansions. So... you could also view it as base game + 2 expansions.

Either way, I have no complaints about what we get for the money spent here.
 
  • 5Like
Reactions:
Cantariel of Gilrad - I can't stop looking at her!
That helmet, the design of the limbs
The head! Just beautiful.
Maybe someday...(please, just think about it) the final transformation in the same style (cosmo head + glow and ect)
I immediately remembered Endless Space
 

Attachments

  • Test.png
    Test.png
    1,7 MB · Views: 0
  • 1Like
Reactions:
Peeps missed some interesting stuff from the vid that is Intrigue Happenings when apparently Ruler can be replaced, schemes within Ruler's court, unrest in the empire, your hero behind the cult, etc. This is some CK stuff lol. (it is at 1:20)

Wait. Was the heroscreen removed from the trailer?
Pretty sure it was there before.
 
I'm glad some stuff the community asked for is announced in the new expansion pass. Though for me personally and for many of us I think we are still waiting for that "Empire" mode. You guys knocked it out of the park with that final Planetfall update and now it's hard to live without it.
 
  • 1Like
Reactions:
I'm glad some stuff the community asked for is announced in the new expansion pass. Though for me personally and for many of us I think we are still waiting for that "Empire" mode. You guys knocked it out of the park with that final Planetfall update and now it's hard to live without it.

There's always Planetfall. But seriously.
This discussion has been going on for ages, and Jordi clearly explained that most of the empire mode is in AoW4 in some way or form.
So it won't happen i'm afraid. Or maybe some day. Who knows.
 
Last edited:
  • 1Like
  • 1
Reactions:
As a AoW fan I ordered the season pass 2, but I have to say, I am underwhelmed with the amount of infos what actually will be in the DLCs. The friend I am PBEMming with for many years now looked at the videos and stuff on steam and shrugged: not sure I will like it, at least we can play if you start the games.

Is crystal magic a totally new form like astral, nature etc.? Will we get new units and tomes with each update? Do you intend to offer Dev diaries on each of the new DLCs to share some more light on them?

Don't get me wrong, I am happy AoW4 gets new content! Are the new event options like intrigue and prophecy optional settings later, or do you have to play with them, if you activate all DLCs?
 
  • 2Like
Reactions:
Which is completely fine. But if you say you're not here to debate. Maybe i'm not the one that misunderstands where forums are for.
What is the point of debating with people who can't even comprehend the nuance between expressing oneself and actively debate until someone opinion's change ?

Thank you for illustrating my point.
 
  • 2Haha
  • 1Like
Reactions:
As a AoW fan I ordered the season pass 2, but I have to say, I am underwhelmed with the amount of infos what actually will be in the DLCs.
They always have dev diaries when a release is near.

They don't describe it in detail now, because they don't know exactly how it will play out. These are general plans, more than product descriptions. You can check what they announced for previous DLCs and what we ended up with if you want to get an idea of what can happen.
 
  • 1Like
Reactions:
They always have dev diaries when a release is near.

They don't describe it in detail now, because they don't know exactly how it will play out. These are general plans, more than product descriptions. You can check what they announced for previous DLCs and what we ended up with if you want to get an idea of what can happen.
We need some conspiracy theorists in here, stat!!
 
What is the point of debating with people who can't even comprehend the nuance between expressing oneself and actively debate until someone opinion's change ?

Thank you for illustrating my point.

Some people like to hear their opinion coming from other people's mouth i guess.
 
Some people like to hear their opinion coming from other people's mouth i guess.
Since I have to explain everything,

I did post a comment on a forum aka places on the internet made so people can communicate and express themselves. So I did use it as intended.

My message did include that I was not specially looking for a debate.

Since there is apparently a need to explain everything here : You took trouble with that as if communication can apparently only be made through debate. As if different people cannot express different opinion in the same place, this case a forum) without trying to confront, argument and frequently enough when the subject is something people like/dislike, turn into a rather unpleasant argument.

I then asked what the point of debating with people those would be understanding capabilities is so limited they cannot appreciate and respect that nuance : expressing oneself without seeking to convert or "win" an argument against someone with a different opinion.

As you refuse to accept this simple idea, I do affirm and re-affirm you are illustrating my point.

What would be the point to debate with someone so confused ? Unlessofc you are playing game and being intentionally obtuse in which case my conclusion is the same since that would make you dishonest.

Funnily enough, this "discussion", this "debate", if we can call that, is exactly why I started by saying I was not interested in debate. I said what I wanted to say in a place made so people can say what they wanted to say.

And I did not want to lose my time in an absurd argument because someone is so insecure about his life that he/she cannot tolerate someone else saying bad stuff on his/her favourite game & game studio. Up to the point of making a false debate and being dishonestly obtuse until the thing becomes a contest of stubborn toxicity so he/she can proclaim "I won" when I lose interest into that whole thing.

But since you managed to drag me in this very thing, there it is : "You won. Congratulation. You are the best. Ever"

And I am a whimsical confuse person who misidentify web forums for places where people should be able to express themselves including their opinions without necessary trying to deny other's opinions.
 
  • 1
  • 1Like
  • 1
Reactions:
Since I have to explain everything,

I did post a comment on a forum aka places on the internet made so people can communicate and express themselves. So I did use it as intended.

My message did include that I was not specially looking for a debate.

Since there is apparently a need to explain everything here : You took trouble with that as if communication can apparently only be made through debate. As if different people cannot express different opinion in the same place, this case a forum) without trying to confront, argument and frequently enough when the subject is something people like/dislike, turn into a rather unpleasant argument.

I then asked what the point of debating with people those would be understanding capabilities is so limited they cannot appreciate and respect that nuance : expressing oneself without seeking to convert or "win" an argument against someone with a different opinion.

As you refuse to accept this simple idea, I do affirm and re-affirm you are illustrating my point.

What would be the point to debate with someone so confused ? Unlessofc you are playing game and being intentionally obtuse in which case my conclusion is the same since that would make you dishonest.

Funnily enough, this "discussion", this "debate", if we can call that, is exactly why I started by saying I was not interested in debate. I said what I wanted to say in a place made so people can say what they wanted to say.

And I did not want to lose my time in an absurd argument because someone is so insecure about his life that he/she cannot tolerate someone else saying bad stuff on his/her favourite game & game studio. Up to the point of making a false debate and being dishonestly obtuse until the thing becomes a contest of stubborn toxicity so he/she can proclaim "I won" when I lose interest into that whole thing.

But since you managed to drag me in this very thing, there it is : "You won. Congratulation. You are the best. Ever"

And I am a whimsical confuse person who misidentify web forums for places where people should be able to express themselves including their opinions without necessary trying to deny other's opinions.
dont argue with professional redditors, its always a waste of time.
 
  • 2Like
Reactions:
Honestly this game looks cool but if this another one of theses PDX limitless DLC scam, and it seems to be the case, then it is without me.

Bring back great vanilla games with 2/3 expansion max or forget about my money.

I'll never understand why more stuff for my favourite games are a bad thing.
 
  • 2Like
  • 1
Reactions:
Why people always assume they need to buy any DLC ?
If the content does not please you, just don't buy it. Problem solved.

The base game and free updates are more than enough to have fun.
 
  • 4Like
  • 1
Reactions:
Since I have to explain everything,

I'm really not that engaged in this 'debate' as you seem to be. I'm not that interested in how you stand in this emotionally. I really don't care. It is completely besides the point obviously. I'm also not even remotely interested in 'winning' because that's not how i look at discussions in general. I also don't get as heated as some people tend to get over an opinion about a videogame. I, again, could not care less. The game brings me much joy and we can have a discussion about its content, which i endorse all the way through. But that is as deep and personal as it gets for me. I wish you well.
 
Last edited:
  • 3Like
Reactions: