Air combat in unfair diff

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I have serious problems winning a 6-6 dogfight in unfair difficulty. When I play with Germany, six of my fighters gets slaughtered against six brittish interceptors, even on my home soil. 6-5 and 6-4 It´s a stalemate and we do not cause eachother much harm, but when the britts have six 37´ interceptors they reduce my 38´ fighters org to 0-10, and hits my strength aswell, almost every time.

This happens in the westwall (freiburg-willhelmshafen) I have every 39 fig/int air doctrine, and two 40´, researched. Does the 20% extra att/def really do that much?

I guess having more than six airdivs in the same battle reduces the total effect since stackingpenalty. The most effective anything can be in the air is six, six is better than >6, or am I mistaken?

Is there anyway to beat them?

P.S. In my normal games I can beat them with 50/50(or three each) of 38´fig/37´.

 

[Hollandia]

How about you build AA guns and Radar before the start of the war? When they fly above your soil and you capture them, those guns will certainly help you destroy them brits! Well, at least hurt them, off course not completly obliterate them...

 

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How about you build AA guns and Radar before the start of the war? When they fly above your soil and you capture them, those guns will certainly help you destroy them brits! Well, at least hurt them, off course not completly obliterate them...

I don´t think AA guns have any implication on dogfights, radar does, but in unfair mode I can´t spare any research or IC to build radar.

BTW, does somebody know if there are any threads that discuss the math in combats. I guess the math is the same in WIF as it is in HOI2: DD : ARMA, only difference is that the GDE and defense overall is tweaked

 

[panzergenerals]

Slighly off topic. I assume you play Titanium Final version.

How is Barbarrossa going?

 

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Slighly off topic. I assume you play Titanium Final version.

How is Barbarrossa going?

Yes, final version and unfair/normal.

It´s really really tough in unfair:wacko:.

In normal/normal I usually finish up around autumn 42´ or spring 43´. When I play normal I usually have around 10 tank divs together with two mot too each tank, and form them into a corps. Add to that 5-6 mot that I rush to the Siberian industry area(with air support).Also I have six, or so, mountain divs that I use in the Baltic area and around Moscow. I use Hungarian, Romanian and Slovakian troops for the defense of Norway, Denmark, Low countries and France(some Romanian forces help me in Bessarabia). All German inf are diverted to Barbarossa(~130 divs(+2 paratroopers which I sometimes use to close pockets)).
I usually do quite large pockets, In order; Southern Ukraine, Pripet Marshes, Baltic/Belarus, Middle/North Ukraine, Leningrad Area, Stalingrad Area and finally Moscow. If I´m lucky it´s done in 41´, if not, it´s done in 42´.(hence finish in either 42´ or 43´)
Add to that ~15 int protecting France and 12 fig dealing with Soviet int, and ~10 tac and 10 dive for air support. I always destroy Soviet Airfields whilst I feint attacks in beginning of Barbarossa

In unfair I don´t have as many divisions and very few of them are 41´tech. I can´t find breakthroughs as easy as in normal and I rarely get beyond Kharkov, Minks and Riga at the beginning of winter in 41´.
It´s harder to gain air superiority aswell, alot harder :wacko:
In summer 42´ I can reach Stalingrad, outskirts of Moscow and Leningrad but that´s how far I´v come.
I´v conquered Soviet in unfair/normal using unhistorical methods by attacking from Finland, Turkey, Amphibious landings in Baltics, and lots of paratroopers, but since I like playing it as historical as I can it wasn´t much fun

I´m gonna try to play WiF as much as I can in wait for AoD. I´m making screenshots(playing windowed mode) when I remember to do so, so If I defeat the Soviets in unfair/normal(WiF Titanium Final Version)before the release of AoD I´m gonna do a retroactive AAR

 

[Andzs]

I have serious problems winning a 6-6 dogfight in unfair difficulty. When I play with Germany, six of my fighters gets slaughtered against six brittish interceptors, even on my home soil. 6-5 and 6-4 It´s a stalemate and we do not cause eachother much harm, but when the britts have six 37´ interceptors they reduce my 38´ fighters org to 0-10, and hits my strength aswell, almost every time.

This happens in the westwall (freiburg-willhelmshafen) I have every 39 fig/int air doctrine, and two 40´, researched. Does the 20% extra att/def really do that much?

I guess having more than six airdivs in the same battle reduces the total effect since stackingpenalty. The most effective anything can be in the air is six, six is better than >6, or am I mistaken?

Is there anyway to beat them?

P.S. In my normal games I can beat them with 50/50(or three each) of 38´fig/37´.

As you wrote it’s unfair difficulty
Interceptors are doing better than fighters in dogfight
Radars will help
Choose good skill superior tactician