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A friend of mine has ran into a problem while playing the Antigonids. Specifically, she has chosen the "We will return, to reclaim what was lost." option in the "Antigonid cause wavers" event, which surrenders the eastern provinces of the empire in return for retaining the western ones.

The problem is of course that her legion, the royal army, is still tied to the old capital region of Syria, of which she only retains parts of the Phoenician coast. It continues to exist, but can no longer be expanded, and if she loses the remainder of Syria then it will simply evaporate. Dissolving and recreating the legion will of course lose her the legion's distinctions, as well as cost her in manpower and gold.

Further, on testing she has discovered that Royal Army law is highly exploitable: it only controls your ability to create legions. If you create one, then move the capital without losing the legion, you can happily raise a second legion in your new capital without needing to change the law.

It seems to me that all of these problems could be solved with a single fix: allowing the rebasing of legions, by which I mean changing the region to which the legion is linked. I suggest the following rules:
  • A state may rebase a legion to any region where it might legally raise a new legion
  • If the state is operating under the Royal Army law and the capital is moved, legions based in the old capital region should be automatically rebased to the new capital region.
  • When a legion is to be dissolved, the state should be given the option to instead rebase it, if there is a valid region to which it may be rebased.
  • A legion should be dissolved if the state could not legally raise a legion in its region
    • after losing territory (existing behaviour)
    • after changing laws (existing behaviour? untested)
    • after moving capitals
I do not suggest that there should be any cost to rebasing. I suggest that, if there is to be a cost, it should not be substantial (certainly less than the cost of creating a new legion), and further, that any costs be waived for all automatic and in-place-of-dissolution rebasings as outlined under the above rules.

I further suggest that legions be subject to the rule that causes unsupported levy cohorts to take constant attrition and not reinforce, if they are over the cohort limit for their region, to prevent exploits via creating legions in regions with large cohort limits and rebasing them to regions with smaller ones, without immediately deleting a bunch of the player's cohorts.

e: I can give this thread an orange banner for some reason
 
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Since the manpower pool is already universal for all armies I do not see why they wouldn't let you relocate the army to another province in order to expand it. Makes sense to me. You are still using the same manpower for this army. You only lost a province worth of manpower, not the ability to recruit more people into a legion from other places.