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[EUG_MadMat]

If true to its oob, this division sounds pretty strong.

2. Panzer was actually one of the most feared by Allied planners, who considered it one, if not THE most experienced Panzerdivision on the Western front.
It was well-equipped and, as described in the OOB you gave, had the specificity of having not just one as usual but two infantry battalion on half-tracks.

Also, as far as I am concerned there were no MPi43/Stg44s in Normandy, besides 40 pieces sent to 2nd SS Panzer. First large shipment to western theater was in October, but oh well... Happy to get more stuff to play with

There were some, in small numbers, but some.
And the first unit on the Western to receive them in some numbers did so in time for Normandy, for it was sent there as reinforcement in the very last stage of the battle (mid-August): the 84. Infanterie-Division.
And there were rumors that either the 2. Panzer or 2. SS-Panzer had gotten some for field-testing, in enough numbers to be significant. Someone recently pointed that it was the former, hence why we took the opportunity of adding this division to introduce the MP-44. Of course, not all of its Panzergrenadier were armed with the new toy ...

Aufk. Panther

It is neither a blueprint vehicle nor a WoW creation.
It isn't actually a different vehicle, but a regular one used in a different role. We have named them "Aufk.Panzer/Panther" to clearly distinguish them from their regular counterparts.

Actually, each Panzerdivision had 5x Panzer IV for recon duty in its Panzerregiment's stabskompanie, as well as 5x Panther and 5x more Panzer IV in its Panzer-Abteilungen's stabskompanie.

Here is the Panzerregiment's Stabskompanie's Aufklärungszug:

 

[Cherrybomb]

Isn't it a bit too much? Panther was slow, big and too powerful tank to begin with. I can hardly imagine it as recon.

Recon vehicles aren't same effective in scouting as infantry recon units. So I don't think that they will became a big game changer. We will see how the new scout tanks will fit into the game.
But the Panther wasn't slow. He was very fast for a tank in that periode and his offroad-performance was very well.

 

[EUG_MadMat]

But the Panther wasn't slow. He was very fast for a tank in that periode and his offroad-performance was very well.

If I recall (and I can be wrong, mechanics isn't my forte), Panther was quite fast as long as it was going in a straight line but had to switch to a different gearbox when it had to turn, and thus had to come almost to a halt to do so.

 

[frout]

Stay tuned for more info!

A D. 520 ? Great !!!

A D. 520 in German camo fighting on German side during the Normandy invasion ? That"s daring ! Did you find out the name of (the only ) German pilot(s) who did it ? He deserves to be an ace in the game. Joke aside, I knew a (very) few German pilots fought with D.520s (certainly veterans). I didn't know they did it during the battle of Normandy ! That means they really like that (outdated) plane.

Waiting for a FFI version of the D. 520 over Royan and Grave (not to mention a Battle of France DLC or addon).

Very nice addition !!!!

 

[EUG_MadMat]

A D. 520 in German camo fighting on German side during the Normandy invasion ? That"s daring !

Some of the Luftwaffe squadrons defending the Paris area had D.520.
They were used against bombers more than in dogfight.

 

[Cherrybomb]

If I recall (and I can be wrong, mechanics isn't my forte), Panther was quite fast as long as it was going in a straight line but had to switch to a different gearbox when it had to turn, and thus had to come almost to a halt to do so.

It could be possible, but on the other hand the "Überlagerungslaufwerk" or "Schachtellaufwerk" allowed good maneuverability even at low speed. The Panther had problems to turn his turret on inclined planes, so he had may problems with the transmission too. I am going to search a little bit in the Internet maybe I find something.

I found an interesting video about the performance of Shermans and Panthers offroad.

 

[Karlburg]

Pumas were quite rare- the German solution to beefing up their reconnaisance units was to provide first-line tanks when possible, based on their experience with light reconnaissance units earlier in the war.

The British to some extent did this too, but the US largely operated reconnaissance units with the same sort of units they had at the beginning of the war, based on the old light recon ideas. That being said, in the US army, because the commanders had a hard time making use of their tank destroyer battalions, TDs did tend to end up with the cavalry groups.

 

[EUG_MadMat]

That being said, in the US army, because the commanders had a hard time making use of their tank destroyer battalions, TDs did tend to end up with the cavalry groups.

Out of the four first Hellcat prototypes sent to two divisions (two each) in Italy, one thought very poorly of it as a TD in the cramped Italian mountain landscape and almost didn't use it ; the other had the same opinion in its intended role but used it in recon and loved it that way.

 

[Nordhammer]

It is neither a blueprint vehicle nor a WoW creation.
It isn't actually a different vehicle, but a regular one used in a different role.

MadMat

The original poster was referring to the "blueprint" creation WoT's "Aufk.Panzer/Panther" tank -

The above vehicle is a creation of World of Tanks..


We were not discussing Mk IVs and Mk Vs which were assigned to divisional recon elements.

 

[EUG_MadMat]

The above vehicle is a creation of World of Tanks..

We were not discussing Mk IVs and Mk Vs which were assigned to divisional recon elements.

My bad then ...
I didn't know about that.

 

[Adolith]

I am excited for the new divisions.

However, I am still disappointed in Eugens lacking communication how the new critical system works.

 

[xXSunSlayerXx]

Two months ago, I would have thrown my money at this. Now I'm not so sure. Is "tanks in forests" of the table yet? Are we getting something closer to the balance of the old crit system?

 

[Nordhammer]

Two months ago, I would have thrown my money at this. Now I'm not so sure. Is "tanks in forests" of the table yet? Are we getting something closer to the balance of the old crit system?

The 2nd PzDiv will have access to the JU-88S equipped with the SD2 cluster bomb.

So all is well.

 

[FungusAmongUs]

Excited as hell for 2. Panzer and the Desert Rats but I'd kill for some new multiplayer maps

 

[Cherrybomb]

I researched a little bit and found out that there were indeed some problems with the manuel transmission. Even in the construction the planers were not sure which system they should use for the tank. But I think that all tanks of the war had problems with turning on sloping terrain, because of the state of technology of that time. The rotaion radius of a lot of tanks were terrible compared to the ones nowadays. So I think that the rotaition on climb of a hill was very hard or even impossible for most tanks of that time periode.

The 2. Panzer-Division that will be added is the one of the Wehrmacht not Waffen-SS, right? But what astonishes me is that there is a unit called "Sturmführer". Sturmführer was the officer rank of the Waffen-SS and even the guy with the StG 44 on the artwork is wearing a camoflage called "Platanentarn" which was only used by the Waffen-SS. Will the Sturmführer and Sturmgrenadiere definetely in the 2. Panzerdivision or will they only available in the coop missions for the "LSSAH" (1. SS-Panzerdivision) and "Das Reich" (2. SS-Panzerdivision)? Or are they just named Sturmführer /-grendiere to make a connection to the Sturmgewehr 44?

 

[Dave The Gun]

Thank you for adding more and more stuff to this fantastic game!

Just pre ordered it

 

[FLG 01]

Some thoughts on the Festung Gross-Paris infantry units:

Feldgendarmerie: a command recon? Recon would make some sense since they acted in small groups and knew the roads very well. Command also makes sense because it was literally their job to prevent desertions and surrenders.

KM Marineinfanterie: if they are the security units of KM HQ in Paris, they'd be quite regular infantry. Perhaps some different equipment like older MGs.

ROA: I assume they are the precursor to the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) but how would they differ from the Osttruppen? Or am I completely wrong here?

Lehr-Pionier: some variation of the Pionier units, but I have no idea what exactly.

Landesschützen: weaker Grenadiere essentially. Worse equipment, disheartened? The 325. Sicherungsdivision is the core of Festung Paris thus perhaps they don't get the disheartened trait.

Strafgruppe: felons, resistance members, deserters... generally unreliable (disheartened?), ill-equipped, and used as cannon fodder but not necessarily bad in combat performance as some really wanted to redeem themselves. Could do anything with them.

What an intriguing division...

 

[Nordhammer]

Some thoughts on the Festung Gross-Paris infantry units:

ROA: I assume they are the precursor to the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) but how would they differ from the Osttruppen? Or am I completely wrong here?

Lehr-Pionier: some variation of the Pionier units, but I have no idea what exactly.

Landesschützen: weaker Grenadiere essentially. Worse equipment, disheartened? The 325. Sicherungsdivision is the core of Festung Paris thus perhaps they don't get the disheartened trait.

What an intriguing division...

ROA (Russkaya osvoboditel'naya armiya) is the Russian Liberation Army.

Landesschützen are reservists,older soldiers not totally fit for frontline duties. They were used to protect rear installations of all sorts.

Edit: Lehr-Pioneer would be an demonstration/training unit.

 

[Cherrybomb]

Some thoughts on the Festung Gross-Paris infantry units:

Feldgendarmerie: a command recon? Recon would make some sense since they acted in small groups and knew the roads very well. Command also makes sense because it was literally their job to prevent desertions and surrenders.

KM Marineinfanterie: if they are the security units of KM HQ in Paris, they'd be quite regular infantry. Perhaps some different equipment like older MGs.

ROA: I assume they are the precursor to the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) but how would they differ from the Osttruppen? Or am I completely wrong here?

Lehr-Pionier: some variation of the Pionier units, but I have no idea what exactly.

Landesschützen: weaker Grenadiere essentially. Worse equipment, disheartened? The 325. Sicherungsdivision is the core of Festung Paris thus perhaps they don't get the disheartened trait.

Strafgruppe: felons, resistance members, deserters... generally unreliable (disheartened?), ill-equipped, and used as cannon fodder but not necessarily bad in combat performance as some really wanted to redeem themselves. Could do anything with them.

What an intriguing division...

The Russian Liberation Army was founded months after the battle of Paris. I don't think that Eugen means with ROA the Russian Liberation Army. The Osttruppen were volunteers of non-russian men of the east of europe. There were no russians in the Osttuppen.
Lehr is teach in german. I think the Lehr-Pioniere will be elite engineers, because they are former instructors for recruits. The Panzer-Lehr-Division was also formed of army teachers and instructors.
In Strafgruppen were germans soldiers who tried to desert or did other dishonorable things.

 

[Leenday]

Would buy if old crit system.