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filomarcello said:
I'd be hesitant to remove Viterbo as it might upset the balance between the various Italian states pre-Unification (and esp since Papal States are the weakest of the big 3, removing one of the 2 Latium provinces would make it even weaker)
If there are tags left over, perhaps a Mantua province could be developed, though it's already rather crowded in that part of Italy.
Of course, you can better evaluate game balancing.OHgamer said:
It is exactly as we feel living thereOHgamer said:
!Joke apart, I think that the strongest reason to further fractionate N-Italy is military. In modern warfare, from Eugenio of Savoy to Napoleon and then to Piedmont conquest of Lombardy, the lines of army advancing and fortifications were substantially the same and involved the major cities.
Very nice map! Hold out!
Is there a pic of Greece?
Here is a map of the regions and the prefectures:
Athens and Thessaloniki could become different 'provinces' as well, with the rest of Athens being Attica, and the rest of Thessaloniki being central Macedonia, or something like that.
Not sure what work has already been done on Greece. The standard Victoria map had most of the provinces, but if you can/want to include more i can help with ideas
Here is a map of the regions and the prefectures:
Athens and Thessaloniki could become different 'provinces' as well, with the rest of Athens being Attica, and the rest of Thessaloniki being central Macedonia, or something like that.
Not sure what work has already been done on Greece. The standard Victoria map had most of the provinces, but if you can/want to include more i can help with ideas
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Here is the current plan for Greece
the old kingdom area is roughly the same as in base Victoria, added a couple extra provinces in the north and in the Aegean Islands
the old kingdom area is roughly the same as in base Victoria, added a couple extra provinces in the north and in the Aegean Islands
OHgamer said:Here is the current plan for Greece
the old kingdom area is roughly the same as in base Victoria, added a couple extra provinces in the north and in the Aegean Islands
Nice
Wow, I'm amazed! Excellent work, all of you!
Truly happy with the work you did to Ireland!
Truly happy with the work you did to Ireland!
Nice work so far!
I would like to propose the Island of Helgoland (on the German North Sea coast)
That way you can do the Helgoland-Zanzibar-Treaty with Britain.
And another province in Nambia Walvis Bay as a britisch port in the german colony of Nambia.
I would like to propose the Island of Helgoland (on the German North Sea coast)
That way you can do the Helgoland-Zanzibar-Treaty with Britain.
And another province in Nambia Walvis Bay as a britisch port in the german colony of Nambia.
derAleks said:
Actually Heligoland was meant to be included, I had it on the original list of adds, but in the first province drawing overlooked it, and realized I had overlooked it about 3 days ago
so it will be in the final map.As will Walvis Bay when we get down to southern Africa.
Isn't Heligoland a bit... insignificant? I find it hard to imagine even a single division camping out on this with or without total control of the sea:
The main island, according to Wikipedia, is 0.4 square miles. For context, that's less than a sixth the area of Hirta, St Kilda, or about the same as Manhattan between the World Trade Centre site and the Battery. Tiny.
I know it was strategic, but not, I feel, defensible on the scale represented in VIC, and the era of close blockade was ending.
The main island, according to Wikipedia, is 0.4 square miles. For context, that's less than a sixth the area of Hirta, St Kilda, or about the same as Manhattan between the World Trade Centre site and the Battery. Tiny.
I know it was strategic, but not, I feel, defensible on the scale represented in VIC, and the era of close blockade was ending.
Earl Uhtred said:
But it is geopolitically significant, and it was for control of this bit of rock that Germany gave the British control of Zanzibar and Uganda, out of fears that the British would indeed be able to use the island as a naval base. In a mulitplayer game there could be all sorts of potentials that could be developed by a UK player having the island.
Considering it also had a couple thousand civilians living there at the time of the 1890 deal, and even its own postal service, it was not exactly an impossible potential that the RN might indeed have made it a forward naval base had they held the island past 1890.
Heligoland stamp from the 1850s, with Queen Victoria in the central cameo.
But I think its geopolitical significance was overrated. It could have been an irritant to Germany as a sort of observation post-cum-gun platform, but had Britain never traded it away, even developed it into a huge naval base, its distance from other British bases and the means of support together with its nearness to the German coast would have made it a huge strategic liability and no sort of haven. In the only body of water in which the German navy actually had an operational advantage its fate would have been similar to Corregidor's.
Nice stamp, too, but even Lundy has its own stamps.
That's the last you'll be hearing from me on the subject though
Nice stamp, too, but even Lundy has its own stamps.
That's the last you'll be hearing from me on the subject though
Hallsten said:Great looking map!
I'd just like to make a few comments about the Swedish setup.
"Nyköping" should be "Norrköping" or "Linköping". If "Falköping" is to look the way it does now it should be renamed, preferably to "Borås" or "Skövde".
Also, how come you don't use å, ä or ö at all?
Definitely looking good anyway...
Yep, you're right. "Nyköping" should be "Norrköping", I probably made a typo somewhere
And "Borås" would be a better name for "Falköping". So I support that renaming too.
About å, ä & ö, well I'd want them in but it's OHgamer's map.
G-Klav said:Yep, you're right. "Nyköping" should be "Norrköping", I probably made a typo somewhere
And "Borås" would be a better name for "Falköping". So I support that renaming too.
About å, ä & ö, well I'd want them in but it's OHgamer's map.
OK will update the province names
The problem with having all of those wierd squiggles, dots etc is that when you use the search box to find a province it doesn't work if the province name has those characters, since you can't type them in on a standard English keyboard (and the majority of players would not have a special keyboard that lets you type those characters in).G-Klav said:
oxmonsta said:
Standard
å = aa
ä = ae, æ or e
ö = oe or ø
I saw that oe = ö are used in Faroe Islands
Do we Scandinavians say Islands? I know that we are using that word, but I would use Öarna and not ice lands. Theres not Ice all days you know.
Used by English language
å = a (the same sound?)
ä,æ = a (the same sound?)
ö,ø = o
All can type thouse letters if switching in the software for your keyboard.
We Swedes can't type ø so we most change in the software.
Well this is how the map should look like, but I didn't know the text format.
Skara insteed of Falkoping (Falköping)
Linkoping instedd of Nykoping (Linköping, Nyköping)
Vexjo insteed of Jonkoping (Växjö, Jönköping)
Border change in Western Sweden between Vexjo and Malmo (Växjö, Malmö)
Some tweaking in Denmark and Norway also made!
I forgett about Gothenburg, should be Göteborg, Goteborg
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Quick question about Uzgorod. I am not sure if Uzgorod was the biggest town in SubCarpathian Ruthenia at the time. I believe it was Munkacs (today it is called Munkacheve since the Ukrainians took it after WWII). Today Munkacs population is smaller than Uzgorod b/c 45% of Munkacs Population was Jewish and almost 100% of them were killed during the Holocaust. I beliee the pre-war population of Munkacs was 85k. Its my family's hometown, and I was delighted when they made it into a province in HOI 1. It would be sooo awesome for it to be in Vikki.
I would like to propose another thing (if it's not too much work )
could you rename the following german cities to it's original german name?
Munich ->München
Cologne ->Köln
Brunswick ->Braunschweig (there's prob. no space for the longer name)
Hanover ->Hannover (that one is not that important)
Nuremburg ->Nürnberg
Vienna -> Wien
I think it looks just aweful for a German to read the citynames so mixed up (some are original, and then some are english :wacko: )
Like I said, if it's not too much work, but it would really looks better...
)could you rename the following german cities to it's original german name?
Munich ->München
Cologne ->Köln
Brunswick ->Braunschweig (there's prob. no space for the longer name)
Hanover ->Hannover (that one is not that important)
Nuremburg ->Nürnberg
Vienna -> Wien
I think it looks just aweful for a German to read the citynames so mixed up (some are original, and then some are english :wacko: )
Like I said, if it's not too much work, but it would really looks better...
derAleks said:
No easy solution there, this is a problem every map faces. I think OHGamer has stated repeatedly that modern English equivalents are used wherever they are commonly used. (even though there are still some inconsistencies, e.g. Lyon/Lyons, Marseille/Marseilles etc.
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Maladict said:No easy solution there, this is a problem every map faces. I think OHGamer has stated repeatedly that modern English equivalents are used wherever they are commonly used. (even though there are still some inconsistencies, e.g. Lyon/Lyons, Marseille/Marseilles etc.
Well if English will be the case on this map, theres better using...
Charlestown for Karlstad
Gothland for Gotland
and so on...
Only ask us Europeans to translate into English if it will be needed!