gigau said:
Hmm.. I see. Apparently I spend to little time at these forums. But let's leave it with that shall we?
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Hmm.. I see. Apparently I spend to little time at these forums. But let's leave it with that shall we?
Since S. America is almost done, I'd like to see what are the planes for Grater and Lesser Antillias.
Cuba (+1 province)
Hispanola (Haiti chopped off at west in this map, but it is just the 2 provinces, as well as 2 provinces for Rep. Dom.).
All other islands would be one province (Jamaica, Puerto Rico)
On the smaller islands it will depend on how much space their is but among the ones I'll aim for at the maximum
Cayman Islands
Bahamas
Turks & Caicos
Bermuda
St Thomas (for the Danish/US Virgin Islands)
Tortola (for the British Virgin Islands, will also include Montserrat)
Antigua
Barbados
Guadeloupe
Martinique
Dominica
St Lucia
St Kitts (includes Nevis & Anguilla)
St Vincent
Grenada
St Eustatius (for the northern Dutch islands)
Curacao (includes Bonaire, maybe Aruba separate)
And no St Barthelemy is NOT planned to be included, nor a divided St Martin. those really are too small.
Hispanola (Haiti chopped off at west in this map, but it is just the 2 provinces, as well as 2 provinces for Rep. Dom.).
All other islands would be one province (Jamaica, Puerto Rico)
On the smaller islands it will depend on how much space their is but among the ones I'll aim for at the maximum
Cayman Islands
Bahamas
Turks & Caicos
Bermuda
St Thomas (for the Danish/US Virgin Islands)
Tortola (for the British Virgin Islands, will also include Montserrat)
Antigua
Barbados
Guadeloupe
Martinique
Dominica
St Lucia
St Kitts (includes Nevis & Anguilla)
St Vincent
Grenada
St Eustatius (for the northern Dutch islands)
Curacao (includes Bonaire, maybe Aruba separate)
And no St Barthelemy is NOT planned to be included, nor a divided St Martin. those really are too small.
What?! No seperate Montserrat?! Nooo! No Irish Colonial Empire!
lol
Even the Danes have more than Sweden!
lol
Sleepyhead said:So no Swedish colonial empire?
Even the Danes have more than Sweden!
OHgamer said:
I think you forgot Trinidad & Tobago
and since you named Bermuda, then don't forget the Azores
derAleks said:I think you forgot Trinidad & Tobago
and since you named Bermuda, then don't forget the Azores
Ah yes T&T is included.
Azores is part of Europe, already included
Sen. Vergueiro said:
Guatemala & Honduras
El Salvador & Nicaragua
Costa Rica & Panama
El Salvador and Costa Rica gain 1 province, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua remain the same. Panama gains 2, one of which will be for the US Canal Zone next to the Panama Canal.
And Belize is its own single province.
Have you considered rearranging the provinces in Nicaragua to allow for a possible Mosquito Coast? The eastern province as is seems quite large.
Mosquito coast is represented by the blue province in Nicaragua (and the blue province in Honduras).
However, the entire Caribbean coast should not be one province since it would then create a warp condition for movement of military forces, esp for when USCA is completely unified. Hence the extension of the southern province of Nicaragua across the isthmus.
However, the entire Caribbean coast should not be one province since it would then create a warp condition for movement of military forces, esp for when USCA is completely unified. Hence the extension of the southern province of Nicaragua across the isthmus.
I have a few comments/questions about Northern Europe:
1. Is there a reason for not using umlauts? For a native it looks pretty strange, especially since local names have been used in most cases.
2. In Estonia Pärnu and Saaremaa & Hiiumaa have their Estonian names and the rest of the provinces their German ones, which seems a bit inconsistent. Is this WAD?
3. Two Swedish names are really strange IMHO. Falköping has never been a city of importance and should be renamed to "Borås" or "Skövde" and the city of Nyköping isn't even in the province of Nyköping, which therefore should be renamed to "Linköping" or "Norrköping".
Aside from that it's looking great...
1. Is there a reason for not using umlauts? For a native it looks pretty strange, especially since local names have been used in most cases.
2. In Estonia Pärnu and Saaremaa & Hiiumaa have their Estonian names and the rest of the provinces their German ones, which seems a bit inconsistent. Is this WAD?
3. Two Swedish names are really strange IMHO. Falköping has never been a city of importance and should be renamed to "Borås" or "Skövde" and the city of Nyköping isn't even in the province of Nyköping, which therefore should be renamed to "Linköping" or "Norrköping".
Aside from that it's looking great...
This is basicly what we settled for. Skara was Krantz' proposal.Hallsten said:I have a few comments/questions about Northern Europe:
1. Is there a reason for not using umlauts? For a native it looks pretty strange, especially since local names have been used in most cases.
3. Two Swedish names are really strange IMHO. Falköping has never been a city of importance and should be renamed to "Borås" or "Skövde" and the city of Nyköping isn't even in the province of Nyköping, which therefore should be renamed to "Linköping" or "Norrköping".
Aside from that it's looking great...
IIRC he dropped the umlauts because it's hard for people to scan for the provinces with those letters.
Hallsten said:I have a few comments/questions about Northern Europe:
1. Is there a reason for not using umlauts? For a native it looks pretty strange, especially since local names have been used in most cases.
2. In Estonia Pärnu and Saaremaa & Hiiumaa have their Estonian names and the rest of the provinces their German ones, which seems a bit inconsistent. Is this WAD?
3. Two Swedish names are really strange IMHO. Falköping has never been a city of importance and should be renamed to "Borås" or "Skövde" and the city of Nyköping isn't even in the province of Nyköping, which therefore should be renamed to "Linköping" or "Norrköping".
Aside from that it's looking great...
1 the non-use of umlauts is to make it easier for players with any keyboard to search a province name in game. Players with english keyboards have a devil of a time using the ingame "find province" feature because umlauts and other diacriticals are not standard key strokes. By eliminating all diacriticals, we make the map easily searchable for all keyboards, so more user-friendly for those whose keyboards do not support the weird array of dots, squiggles and slashes common in some languages.
2 On Estonia, the decision was to use the common name used in English for the towns in this period. Hence Reval instead of Tallinn, but Parnu is used since that was, in English-language maps I've seen, more often used. Hence the split between the two languages on the estonian names.
(note this is how it also is in the base Victoria map)
3. On Swedish town names, there was a huge discussion about a month ago, and the solution that the Swedes involved was deliniated in post 459. If you feel that further revision is needed, you might want to PM Sleepyhead and Krantz so that a consensus can be made on Sweden, as I'd rather not have to ask Xie to redraw sections of Sweden every three weeks because of new ideas from a poster that others then disagree on.
1. Gotcha, ok...OHgamer said:1 the non-use of umlauts is to make it easier for players with any keyboard to search a province name in game. Players with english keyboards have a devil of a time using the ingame "find province" feature because umlauts and other diacriticals are not standard key strokes. By eliminating all diacriticals, we make the map easily searchable for all keyboards, so more user-friendly for those whose keyboards do not support the weird array of dots, squiggles and slashes common in some languages.
2 On Estonia, the decision was to use the common name used in English for the towns in this period. Hence Reval instead of Tallinn, but Parnu is used since that was, in English-language maps I've seen, more often used. Hence the split between the two languages on the estonian names.
(note this is how it also is in the base Victoria map)
3. On Swedish town names, there was a huge discussion about a month ago, and the solution that the Swedes involved was deliniated in post 459. If you feel that further revision is needed, you might want to PM Sleepyhead and Krantz so that a consensus can be made on Sweden, as I'd rather not have to ask Xie to redraw sections of Sweden every three weeks because of new ideas from a poster that others then disagree on.
2. Gotcha, ok...
3. I didn't see that post, so I didn't know that the map on post 1 was out of date. I'm 100% ok with the modifications proposed in post 459 anyway...
Something that would be useful to include in this map would be some kind of marking to show where it is possible for troops to cross sea zones. For instance, troops can cross from Copenhagen to southern Sweden unless there are enemy ships in the sea zone between them. It would be useful to have that reflected on the map, perhaps by some sort of double-sided arrow between the two connected provinces.
Have you split Aragon_Y_Navarra in two different states? I did it for my Basque Country project, and it works wonders. Aragon contains provinces 693, 696, 710 (Huesca, Zaragoza, Teruel) and Navarra contains 716, 694, 695 (Bilbao, Pamplona, Estella)
OHgamer said:ok folks here is another teaser shot. This is the North Atlantic - from Newfoundland to the British Isles, western France and northern Iberia.
An important question for everyone. For smaller provinces where clicking onto the province can be difficult and they border open seas, Xie has developed a great idea of using "nameplates" that would be next to the province, which is where one would click with the mouse to access the info on the province. See the example in this map with Saint Pierre & Miquelon. This would allow for smaller provinces to be depicted (like isolated islands a la St Pierre or provinces that should be fairly small, like Gibraltar). Functionality otherwise would be as normal, military unit would be on the actual land mass, not the nameplate, etc.
This is a really great idea; go with it, and you will have my complete support. It's also a good idea to change the name of Estella to Logroño...
Alqamar said:
No decisions have been made regarding the setup of the States, but as V:Rev includes 100 extra area tags for creating new states, further refinement is very much in the realm of the possible
And Logrono is already on the map (just south of Bilbao) - and I don't see an Estella on our map.
OHgamer can you post current map of all Iberia, i can't find that map in that thread?