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Thanks for testing this. and this is sorta what I feared, their debuffs weren't enough and the additional amount of artillery mitigated most of the debuffs anyway. As you said the only notable thing is the hard attack, but it doesnt matter as they're still better than infantry against tanks anyway which was the main point of frustration with that stat.
Wow, just, wow. I've never put much stock into "the devs don't play the game", and I won't claim to understand the nitty gritty details but when I saw the numbers I thought it was going to be an actual nerf. The soft attack is particularly telling. Was such a negligible nerf to soft attack the actual goal or do the devs not understand how these stats are calculated? Supply is an actual nerf but still manageable.
In all seriousness, it is the payoff of a path. They aren't going to nerf it to the point of uselessness/realism. The player that goes through the motions to get them should be able to play with their new toy.
Every multiplayer mod will probably remove them. You'll never see them on historical. There isn't going to be a new crazy Elephant meta.
They are harmless.
Every multiplayer mod will probably remove them. You'll never see them on historical. There isn't going to be a new crazy Elephant meta.
They are harmless.
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elephants are the single strongest unit in the game, so much firepower in just 2 combat width. if paradox were to nerf it, they should increase the combat width
but imo they should leave them as they are, mughal empire is a meme path anyways
but imo they should leave them as they are, mughal empire is a meme path anyways
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I'd also like Tiger 2s to be useful. I am not a fan of where we've landed with the tank designer and armored units in general.
it feels weird that "meta" tanks are stacked with secondary turrets, when no successful ww2 tanks were multi turreted, with maybe the exception of the Grant/Lee with just one extra cannon and other tanks with extra 1 MG turret. I've always felt that Meta designs should somewhat align with historical designs - there's a reason equipment was designed a certain way in ww2.
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seems nice, for terrain modifiers I think I would take them over mechanized infantry (although sacrificing hardness could have bad outcome), but I never saw them in game in any army, are they tied to certain historical focus?
haha nice one!! reminds me my divisions with land cruisers in last game, they did surprisingly well in deserts and mountains
haha nice one!! reminds me my divisions with land cruisers in last game, they did surprisingly well in deserts and mountains
"Are they OP? Better than line arty"
I feel like the implication in your title is that line arty is not shite
I feel like the implication in your title is that line arty is not shite
Was meant to be separate questions. Yes they are OP and yes they are better than line artillery as the elephants are artillery movers but also count as mobile infantry