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In the game file, there are all these parties available for Argentina. In-game however, I am stuck with a dictatorship party. Even after the events for democracy trigger, the same party with jingoism and residence remains in power. What gives?

On another note about Argentina; if immigration to America is hard coded, where's the immigration to Argentina? Specifically the Italian immigration? Italians NEVER immigrate.
 
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I have seen quite a few Italians in Hannover (I took it as Prussia). Currently, I am getting Spanish immigrants in Germany. Things must be pretty bad in Spain in my game.
 
I played with argentina and found such a problem.

Later, in the 50s, some events will fire that convert your government into a democracy, but the party system remained one_party. I had to change one of the events and i added party_system->plurality, or something like that.

The events leave you with all the political reforms at maximum except for universal suffrage. It is supposed that this will bring immigrants, but that is not true. At least in my game. I had some social reforms as well.

Do you want to have more population? Go to Madagascar or Borneo and say them that they are now Argentinian. I turned rich after that, and i was able to build some divisions (native, yes, but divisions).
 
talan said:
I played with argentina and found such a problem.

Later, in the 50s, some events will fire that convert your government into a democracy, but the party system remained one_party. I had to change one of the events and i added party_system->plurality, or something like that.

The events leave you with all the political reforms at maximum except for universal suffrage. It is supposed that this will bring immigrants, but that is not true. At least in my game. I had some social reforms as well.

Do you want to have more population? Go to Madagascar or Borneo and say them that they are now Argentinian. I turned rich after that, and i was able to build some divisions (native, yes, but divisions).

Um, I want to have the parties that are in the game files. The ones that say Full Citizenship. So I CAN have immigrants.
 
GabeHimself said:
Um, I want to have the parties that are in the game files. The ones that say Full Citizenship. So I CAN have immigrants.
Wait--are the other parties not appearing at all, or are they just not being elected?
 
GabeHimself said:
In the game file, there are all these parties available for Argentina. In-game however, I am stuck with a dictatorship party. Even after the events for democracy trigger, the same party with jingoism and residence remains in power. What gives?

Parties don't die untill they are out of power. Any events sleeping a party should really place a new ruling party in power too.
 
GabeHimself, I pursued exactly the same as you, a party with full citizenship. I looked through the argentinian events and found nothing that change the party system. May be a bug, cause Argentina has a relatively long list of parties (the longest of south america, i guess), and events turning her into a democracy.

I recommend to change any of those events and recover some old save game (i hope you have, i hadnt :( ). It is very easy to make these changes, anyway. Three hurrays for Paradox. :cool:
 
GabeHimself said:
In the game file, there are all these parties available for Argentina. In-game however, I am stuck with a dictatorship party. Even after the events for democracy trigger, the same party with jingoism and residence remains in power. What gives?

On another note about Argentina; if immigration to America is hard coded, where's the immigration to Argentina? Specifically the Italian immigration? Italians NEVER immigrate.

I completely agree with you. Argentina had almost the same immigration rates as the United States. But no-one knows that because the US overshadowed Latin America.
 
Alex_pharaoh said:
I completely agree with you. Argentina had almost the same immigration rates as the United States. But no-one knows that because the US overshadowed Latin America.
#########################################################################
# National unity
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 16601
random = no
country = ARG

name = "EVT_16601_NAME"
desc = "EVT_16601_DESC"
style = 0

date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1853 }

action_a = {
name = "GREAT"
command = { type = constitution which = democracy }
command = { type = capital which = 2648 } #Paraná
}
}

The error is in the lack of: command = { type = party_system which = multi_party }


But the end dates for the full citizenship party is bizarrely 1856. 1853-1856? Three years for a full citizenship party? WTF? I read up on Argentine history and the Unitarians and Federalists constantly fought each other during this time frame. So the command needs to make Argentina multi-party, or it should be multi-party from the get go. Otherwise 9 parties in the game file will never come to power.