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In a game I was playing, I recently went up against a Muslim country. For the first time, my army sizes got fairly large. But when I went into battle, several of my regiments would retreat at the start. I could never bring the full force of my army on the enemy. What was going on?
 
Alfred Russel said:
In a game I was playing, I recently went up against a Muslim country. For the first time, my army sizes got fairly large. But when I went into battle, several of my regiments would retreat at the start. I could never bring the full force of my army on the enemy. What was going on?
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Are you reloading in the middle of battle or just before?

There is a bug where all your armies' morale will be set to '0' on reload, even though the information on screen says they have full morale.

After a reload, you need to let the morale climb up again (takes a few months). Thus it is usually a bad idea to save a game in the middle of or just before battles.
 
TempestDK said:
Are you reloading in the middle of battle or just before?

There is a bug where all your armies' morale will be set to '0' on reload, even though the information on screen says they have full morale.

After a reload, you need to let the morale climb up again (takes a few months). Thus it is usually a bad idea to save a game in the middle of or just before battles.
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The war spanned a couple of sessions (very fustrating, I couldn't occupy all the AI demense with one of their provinces in the middle east--and they wouldn't accept any peace or offer one), so that could be it.

Another theory I had is that my monarch has the kinslayer trait, and thus many of the army commanders have very low loyalty. I thought this might be why they are refusing to fight.
 
Alfred Russel said:
The war spanned a couple of sessions (very fustrating, I couldn't occupy all the AI demense with one of their provinces in the middle east--and they wouldn't accept any peace or offer one), so that could be it.

Another theory I had is that my monarch has the kinslayer trait, and thus many of the army commanders have very low loyalty. I thought this might be why they are refusing to fight.
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Usually if the disloyal commanders disband their regiments, you get events telling you that companies were lost. As it is only retreating it is most likely the morale-bug at play.
 
As a general rule, is it possible to make peace with the AI without occupying all of their demense? This war lasted forever because they wouldn't accept peace terms that were extremely favorable to them, and wouldn't offer peace either. I'd hate to have to fight super long wars in one session.
 
Alfred Russel said:
As a general rule, is it possible to make peace with the AI without occupying all of their demense? This war lasted forever because they wouldn't accept peace terms that were extremely favorable to them, and wouldn't offer peace either. I'd hate to have to fight super long wars in one session.
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The AI is not too bright, and will fight to the bitter end if it believes it can win. Once it sees that it can't win, it will start offering you claims and land and gold to get out.

So if they still have 80% of their army, it doesn't care that you might be occupying 80% of his land, if it deems that it still has a fighting chance.
 
Alfred Russel said:
As a general rule, is it possible to make peace with the AI without occupying all of their demense? This war lasted forever because they wouldn't accept peace terms that were extremely favorable to them, and wouldn't offer peace either. I'd hate to have to fight super long wars in one session.
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As a 'General Rule', the AI will accept Peace/Offer Peace depending on whether the AI had his coffee that morning.

But seriously, there is no 'Guaranteed' way to force peace on the AI other than occupying all of their personal demesne. Some things that might help nudge the AI into accepting:

Offer up your entire treasury as tribute.
Have a positive war score.
Have more troops raised than the AI does.
If the AI is involved in two or more wars.
Have a large Ally.

I'm sure there's a few more things, but that's all I could think of off the top of my head.
 
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