I am currently king of scotland and control the entire country and some of northern england. should i set up dukedoms where i can? is there any benefit to doing this or should i just keep control of everything?
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You can't keep control of everything yourself, a ruler can only control a certain amount of provinces himself (the demense-limit). The number of province you can control directly depends on your rulers-intrigue and his title-level.
If you go over your demesnelimit, your efficiency goes down, which will lead to lower income from your provinces, which will then lead to smaller regiments. Also if your efficiency is is lower then 80% for a long time your ruler might become stressed and then crazed.
So what is your current efficiency ?
You get monthly prestige from having dukes as vassals, the more duke-vassals you have the more prestige.
Except the prestige. Duke vassals give much more prestige than count vassals. And I'm not entirely sure if a King gets prestige from a count level vassal? Can't remember. Anyways, prestige allows you to claim titles, it's pretty much the main currency of the game (piety too, though IIRC you can't spend it), so more prestige = good.
I vaguely remember when I was playing (must start up another game soon, been too long) that I pretty much always created duke level vassals. Was only if I was keeping a title for a son that I wouldn't hand them all out too.
But, if your son is married and has kids of his own, giving him a Duke level title can be good so he can accumulate prestige before you die and he inherits.
I vaguely remember when I was playing (must start up another game soon, been too long) that I pretty much always created duke level vassals. Was only if I was keeping a title for a son that I wouldn't hand them all out too.
But, if your son is married and has kids of his own, giving him a Duke level title can be good so he can accumulate prestige before you die and he inherits.
Counts don't give prestige. It is good to give your son/s a dukedom. You're best off filling it with Counts first, otherwise your son will do it. I've had those Counts remain my vassals, but I seem to recall other times when they switched to the new Duke of that region. Not sure about that.
The Counts 'should' switch over to the new Duke, as long as their demense is in the Ducal area. If the Count has 2 or more Counties, and those Counties are in 2 or more Ducal areas, then the rules are a bit iffy which way they go. I've had them switch if the 'Capital' was in the Ducal area and I've had them switch if their other province is in that Ducal area but their Capital isn't. Maybe Veld can clear up how it's suppose to work in situations like that.
Loyalty and/or traits (like Rebellious) might play into it also. I try to make sure they are in the 'Loyal' camp before moving them over, tho I might be playing it too cautious.
Loyalty and/or traits (like Rebellious) might play into it also. I try to make sure they are in the 'Loyal' camp before moving them over, tho I might be playing it too cautious.
Kings benefit from having Dukes under them. So creating Duchies has an advantage.
Once you create a Duchy, counties that form the Duchy will come under the control of the Duke. i.e. You will not be able to grant more titles to those counts as thye report directly to their Duke, not to you anymore. Exceptions exist:
a) If the Duchy is formed before the County is given to a new Count. (e.g. it was previously part of your desmense when the Duchy is formed; and then you made it into a bishophric)
b) If the County was conquered by you (i.e. vassalised) only after the Duchy is formed.
For this reason I only grant Duchies if I have ALL the counties under my control, or intend to conquer the remainly counties and grant it to the Duke eventually - I like my duchies "neat". But it all depends on your play style.
Once you create a Duchy, counties that form the Duchy will come under the control of the Duke. i.e. You will not be able to grant more titles to those counts as thye report directly to their Duke, not to you anymore. Exceptions exist:
a) If the Duchy is formed before the County is given to a new Count. (e.g. it was previously part of your desmense when the Duchy is formed; and then you made it into a bishophric)
b) If the County was conquered by you (i.e. vassalised) only after the Duchy is formed.
For this reason I only grant Duchies if I have ALL the counties under my control, or intend to conquer the remainly counties and grant it to the Duke eventually - I like my duchies "neat". But it all depends on your play style.
Some bad events trigger faster if you have a large number of vassals, so keeping the number of vassals low by assigning duke titles can be a good idea.
I'm not sure if civil war events have a mtth that is calculated per vassal or for your kingdom as a whole. Some loyalty reducing events are calculated per vassal, so having less vassals means less disloyal vassals to trigger a civil war.
On the other hand, you can't request troops from a duke his vassals directly and if you ask the duke to mobilize he will only mobilize his own regiments. The only time you have access to the regiments of the vassals of a duke is during grand mobilization.
I'm not sure if civil war events have a mtth that is calculated per vassal or for your kingdom as a whole. Some loyalty reducing events are calculated per vassal, so having less vassals means less disloyal vassals to trigger a civil war.
On the other hand, you can't request troops from a duke his vassals directly and if you ask the duke to mobilize he will only mobilize his own regiments. The only time you have access to the regiments of the vassals of a duke is during grand mobilization.
True, you can't politely ask your sub-vassals to mobilize their troops. But you can still 'force-mobilize' them by clicking on that little soldier sprite in the County view. They take a loyalty hit to their Duke, not to you, which a good thing. On the flip-side of course, if they are below 80% loyalty, you can't bribe em up a little so you can then 'force-mobilize' those troops when you need them.
I always hit my sub-vassals first for troops. It all depends on what type of war I'm planning and where it's going to be. If I need lots of troops, then I mobilize my troops, then force-mobilize the ones on and near the potential front (less loyalty hit and can hit multi-province vassals easier) then de-mobilize my troops unless they are needed later on. I hate waiting on them to decide if/when they'll mobiiize. If I just need a few troops, I let those sub-vassals take the full loyalty hit and move on.