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I use it for Byzantium (even if it is petty unhistorical for the 1419 empire). But it is based on the imperial eagle, and could be used for Nicaea too.SunZyl said:
Besides that, it is the best looking imperial eagle CoA i can find on this forum.
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Karsai, Bursa, Germyan, Teke... Probably a few more as they will be the major power in Turkey which will be pretty much greek culture. 
Order of St John will own Izmir, though.
Order of St John will own Izmir, though.
Sounds very intresting. I will try Nicaea directly when this mood is finished.SunZyl said:Karsai, Bursa, Germyan, Teke... Probably a few more as they will be the major power in Turkey which will be pretty much greek culture.
Do you think the Birgerian CoA and flag who I posted before would fit for Nicaea? It was the best I could find, but it is suerly other eagles out there.
NiceSunZyl said:Karsai, Bursa, Germyan, Teke... Probably a few more as they will be the major power in Turkey which will be pretty much greek culture.
, in that case we will also see a strong Order Of St Jhon, did the crusades succeed in your mod then? The wars between Nicaea and the latin empire can also become interesting..
Prince Ares said:
I will try and find something Nicaea-specific. Could be used for Byzantium, though.
Stinus said:Nice
Well, so and so. The Latin Empire succeded in stabilise themself better than they did IRL. This resulted in the Ninth Crusade against the Holy Land in late 1200s, early 1300s, which was successfull.
Maybe the family standard of the Laskaris will do, even if I can't find it anywhere on the internet.SunZyl said:I will try and find something Nicaea-specific. Could be used for Byzantium, though.
Just a question, have you even thinked of a zoroastrian (pagan) Persia?
Prince Ares said:Maybe the family standard of the Laskaris will do, even if I can't find it anywhere on the internet.
Just a question, have you even thinked of a zoroastrian (pagan) Persia?
No, I've thought about the Ill-Khanate. As it isn't my favorite area, though, I'm ready to listen to what you say on the subject. If you tell me the potential background story, I will think about it.
Just a question, have you even thinked of a zoroastrian (pagan) Persia? [/QUOTE]
I think that would be a good idea, but only if we have a free religion-tag, becouse a pagan Persia seems a bit unbalanced.
[/QUOTE]I think that would be a good idea, but only if we have a free religion-tag, becouse a pagan Persia seems a bit unbalanced.
Stinus said:Just a question, have you even thinked of a zoroastrian (pagan) Persia?
I think that would be a good idea, but only if we have a free religion-tag, becouse a pagan Persia seems a bit unbalanced.[/QUOTE]
That would be if Konfuncian, Buddhist or Hindu could be taken away. I have actually no clue at all what Zoroastrian and Konfuncian is...
About Nicaea:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
"Theodore II Laskaris chose it for his symbol as Emperor (Empire of Nicaea), taking it to symbolize his state's claims to all the Byzantine Empire's former domains, both European (West) and Asian (East). An alternative (and probably more correct) interpretation is that the eagle symbolized the Emperor's double temporal and spiritual sovereignty. It was during its use by the Empire of Nicaea that the crown was added between the two heads, while the eagle was made to hold a sword and an orb with a cross, symbol of the Empire's aforementioned double sovereignty."
It seems that the eagle I posted is somewhat historical, even if I can't find the family satandard of the Laskaris.
About Zoroastiran Persia:
If the Sassanid empire had been somewhat stable and have peace with the Eastern Roman empire under the years when the Arabs invaded it could have halted the Arabian invasions. The Sassanid where a very large empire who ruled everything from Oman to India and with its wealth and power, the Arabs whouldn't be able to overrun the whole empire (If it hadn't been in the middle of a civil war after a crushing Eastern Roman victory).
So I suggest this: The Arabs managed to take over the empire's Arabian prossesions and also Mesopotamia and some of the western Persian provinces, but was halted at al-Qādisiyyah in 651 (where they where historicaly defeated). They then managed to retake some of their lost prosessions in western Persia, even if Arabia and Mesopotamia where lost forever. This results in a Pagan buffertzone between the Moslems and India.
Your scenario may start with the Umayhad (don't know how to spell it) controling Mesoptamia and some parts of Persia, and now trying to invade Persia again, but now with a larger army. This would give those who want's to play as Persia a realy intressting begining (and petty hard to).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
"Theodore II Laskaris chose it for his symbol as Emperor (Empire of Nicaea), taking it to symbolize his state's claims to all the Byzantine Empire's former domains, both European (West) and Asian (East). An alternative (and probably more correct) interpretation is that the eagle symbolized the Emperor's double temporal and spiritual sovereignty. It was during its use by the Empire of Nicaea that the crown was added between the two heads, while the eagle was made to hold a sword and an orb with a cross, symbol of the Empire's aforementioned double sovereignty."
It seems that the eagle I posted is somewhat historical, even if I can't find the family satandard of the Laskaris.
About Zoroastiran Persia:
If the Sassanid empire had been somewhat stable and have peace with the Eastern Roman empire under the years when the Arabs invaded it could have halted the Arabian invasions. The Sassanid where a very large empire who ruled everything from Oman to India and with its wealth and power, the Arabs whouldn't be able to overrun the whole empire (If it hadn't been in the middle of a civil war after a crushing Eastern Roman victory).
So I suggest this: The Arabs managed to take over the empire's Arabian prossesions and also Mesopotamia and some of the western Persian provinces, but was halted at al-Qādisiyyah in 651 (where they where historicaly defeated). They then managed to retake some of their lost prosessions in western Persia, even if Arabia and Mesopotamia where lost forever. This results in a Pagan buffertzone between the Moslems and India.
Your scenario may start with the Umayhad (don't know how to spell it) controling Mesoptamia and some parts of Persia, and now trying to invade Persia again, but now with a larger army. This would give those who want's to play as Persia a realy intressting begining (and petty hard to).
The problem is, this happened 800 years ago. The praxis is 400 years. And I won't change that. Sorry.
Confucian is some sort of semi-religion, it is a more of a philosophy, even if it includes some religious rituals.SunZyl said:
The Zoroastrian religion is similar to the base of Cristianity, it includes an heaven and a hell and a domsday. You don't need to free an religion tag for them, just make them pagan or if you think that is to unbalanced: Hinduist.
Aww....SunZyl said:The problem is, this happened 800 years ago. The praxis is 400 years. And I won't change that. Sorry.
Btw. Zoroastrism still exists in India, so you could make some nortwestern Indian state Pagan to represent Zoroastrism. That would be interesting.
