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Operation Barbarossa. (top secret)

Launch date early July.

Objective : Liberation of the masses to the east and bring down the communist empire. The last remaining threat to German expansion. Once this threat is removed the USA is of no consquence, the war will be won.

The largest concentration of militarty might the world had ever seen was positioned in secret on the Soviet border. The war to liberate the enslaved peoples in the great eastern lands would begin now. Army groups advanced on every front spearheaded by the Panzers IV with 88mm guns and artilery birgades. Over head the luftwaffe cleared the skies with FW-190, provided close airsupport with Stukas, and BF-110G ground attack fighters. The soviets defended every where and slowly pulled back with many of there amries being nearly destroyed suffering such huge losses on all fronts. Early success was up north through the baltic nations, which were all liberated thanks to a succesful amphibious invasion which out flanked the soviets. A second invasion did fail but tied up valuable forces so that the baltics could be liberated.

German forces pushed the soviets back across there main river lines around kiev and gomel. further south svesatpol was tacken and the river lines breached. Vitasbk was tacken with massive soviet losses, the war so far goes well. Although winter is now upon us and offensive operations will soon come to a close. No marjor russian forces were destoryed besides 4 or 5 divisions, and a few in large battles, germany lost no division or air units, the red airforces suffered greatly even though the luftaffe was outnumbered. The Red airforce has now retreated into the deeps of russia in fear of ahilation. A limited victory so far, but hitler is concerned that thoses fighters will return one day and be an even match. Hitler demotes Goring for not fully ahilating those fighters when he had the chance. Looks as if there war will last into 42, order the requestion of winter clothing from all over germany for the army, this war is going to take longer then planned.
 
Barbarossa Breakes

July 41 - November 41 Russian Front


In the largest military operation in history, Axis units have poured across the German-Soviet boarder from the Baltic to the Black Sea to attack Red Army formations.

Red army units offered only light resistance at the frontier before falling back to prepared defensive positions. Many heroic delaying actions were fought but German forces were able to advance on all fronts. The Luftwaffe rules the skys and can bomb Soviet ground troops more or less at will. They are, however, suffering losses to the quality Soviet AA guns.

In the North
After a failed (and costly) attempt to take Tallinn by amphibious landing, the Germans later managed to take the province by land but were not able to penetrate further towards Lenningrad.

In the Centre
In the central sector German units have pushed to Vitasbk and taken the landbridge. Smolensk still remains in Soviet hands. As in the North, Axis Offensive action has been halted on this front too.

In the South
The situation in the south is much more fluid. The Crimea has fallen and German forces have pushed up to the Dniepr river line. Sevral bridge-heads have been gained by the Germans over the lower reaches of the river.

Losses so far are light. Only a handfull of small infantry divs have been destroyed, all other losses have been easily replaced.

Soviet fighter formations were attacked at their bases deep inside the Soviet Union early in the campaign by long range German fighters. Heavy losses were suffered but surviving units were able to relocate to Siberia to wait their turn to strike back.

Unless the USA can lift the siege and blockade it finds itself under, Its feared the glorious Red Army is only delaying the inevitable Fascist domination of the entire globe.

In Other News

Condom shortage looming as rubber stockpile drops.

And... In a move to lower dissent, Stalin has doubled the vodka ration for all Comrads.

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Meanwhile, the gigantic American Industrial Capacity is ably supplying the Soviets with over 600 supplies/coal/oil daily, and it's massive naval units are steadily approaching their launch dates.

Brazil has been invaded, and is quickly being overunn, proving that the American armed forces are still very much capable of launching offensive operations. This conquest will provide bases for a massive assault against Africa, which will throw the full might of America at the weakling Italians, who will fall rapidly.

The Japanese, although having a free hand in the pacific, are not able to conquer much as the UK is an ally. So, infact, all that Japan has been able to conquer are China, the Phillipines and some insignificant Pacific Islands, which will easily be taken back in due time.

The Axis' time is almost up.
 
For interest

Originally Posted by major ball
Russia dissent increases significantly in Core thru the rise of Ukraine, belarus etc...up as high as 40%. What factors are built into the events to lower this and give the russians a chance?

Basically if USSR allows Germany (which have chosen 3rd occupation policy) to take enough ground to set up Ukraine, Bielarus and so on, they are in big trouble... as they should be. You should face the consequences of that. If it happened - you still can win. New countries are weak and easy to conquer - and in the worst scenario you can keep defense stance for a while (until dissent drops to acceptable level around 20%).

Rise of Ukraine and Bielarus got very low probability though, as German AI almost never chooses occupation policy that allows it. Human player on the other hand can choose it freely, but in MP version of the mod he is limited to two occupation policies (he can't choose the 3rd - the one that hits USSR the most).


I posted this question...maybe mike knows more about the options he has selected but interesting too see that 20% dissent is manageable for the Russians according to this guy. Perhaps different selections next time might help a little but really the Russians need to go big time defense till they can reduce dissent.
 
Cheesed Off

Well...as usuall in this game, the Germans are choosing 'historical' (Ukrain, Belorussia and the baltic states forming) events to make things as difficult as possible for allied players (and the worst possible type of game play). Dissent up to 40% in the SU now (was 0 before German invasion).
Some players seem so desperate to win they wont let any chance of playing a good game get in the way.

The way Core is being played here it seems totally removed from any historical reality. I suggest a review of the history books for those who think this quirky, cluttered, hotchpotch version of the game is anything like history.

The Russian people always rise when mother Russia is invaded. If areas breake free from the soviets then dissent could fall as the dissenters from these areas are no longer in the SU.

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Red Army Fights On

Russian Front Nov 41 - March 42

German forces continued their advance on all fronts as winter closed in over the Soviet Union. Bad weather (and the return of the Red Airforce into the battle) has given our troops some respite from Axis air attacks. The major problem now seems the ever growing dissent caused by Axis occupied areas breaking away from the Soviet union (Ukrain, Belorussia, Baltic states). Our field commanders are finding it much harder to rally the men for a fight.

In the North
After a large battle at Novgorad, Soviet and Finnish forces were forced to retreat to the outer suburbs of Lenningrad. New Soviet formations are now taking up positions to help defend our second city.

In the Centre
Axis forces have taken Smolensk and pushed East to the outskirts of Moscow. An attempt to outflank the Capital to the North by Gudarians Panzer Army attacking Kalinin, was thrown back with the much vaunted panzers suffering heavy losses at the hands of our patriotic defenders. Even under the most difficult circumstances (dissent at 40% and almost total german air superiority) the Red Army tanks (T-34 70mm with AT), AT guns and superb leadership by Marshall Zhukov was more than a match for the rather clumsy German attacks.

In the South
The Germans have pushed up to the Donetz river line. Soviet units still hold a bridge-head over the river at Morozovsk (west of Stalingrad). An attempt to breach the Donetz defenses at Voronezh was defeated with axis units unable to make any headway against stubburn Soviet resistance. The Germans finaly broke off the attack and fled back across the river.

The air war was joined once again by our fearless airforce. Sevral victories were won (using hit and run tactics) against Luftwaffe fighter bombers attempting to support Axis ground attacks.

Losses are still relitivly light (with 6000 manpower still in reserve) and less than 10 inf Divs lost in the entire campaign so far.

Our Allies in the USA are braving the winter seas and sending much needed convoys of supplies and resourses to help us in our struggle against fascism, but the chances of a second front opening, look as bleak as the Russian weather.


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I have to admit that the dissent does seem high. From memory ive only seen it go up to 25-30 range which is still managable. But 40 or over dose seem exsessive.

From my point of view though it is still a very tough fight in Russia, as im am starting loss more battles even with your higher dissent, due to weather, harder terrain, lower infarstructure and consolidated soviet defences.

So has you slowly get dissent down over the next year to year and half your forces will gain more and more offensive firepower. While at the same time my mapower continues to decrease, and will reach dangerous levels in time.

The main reason for the dissent i think is that normaly USSR can counter Germany in later 41 or 42 and win the war, no thats not histroic and no fun. If this game goes till 43 you will be in alot better position and in a position to counterattack just like russia did.

Cant imagine whats going to happen when you can actauly stop my fighters and bombers, dark days for the Reich i would think.

But as it stands at the moment the Reich in enjoying a time of great victories as it should be. The growing might of the US is a concern.

As for historic, well that ended when the UK fell, opened up a whole new part of the game ive never seen befor. So new to me as well.
 
Actually Mike

Your right as far as...

If UK could have held, and you had to defend against the Allies in West Europe, the game would still be pretty good (balanced). As the game was at Barbarossa, I dont think you needed to hit me with all that dissent. Is my SU really that scary?
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Well I hope you guys decide to start another game tonight because really I am bored at the moment. Not a lot I can do as the Italians and not much influence they can have on the game now. Might as well install an AI player :)
So if yo udecide to continue the current game i will opt out until you guys finish. The biggest factor which affects a lot of these games is a lot of us are not familiar with all the events, what freebie techs you get etc...I am sure after a few games on the same mod we will learn. Anyway I have installed v.84 and suggest we start another game. Maybe next time Mike can be limited to selecting 2 of those options instead of all of them to keep russian dissent to between 20-30 as suggested in an earlier post
 
Well the dissent did suprise me as being that high mainly due to the liberation events. In the events it does not state how much dissent russia gets from that event, only what germany gets. So in hind sigt i would keep the same occupation policy but probaby go for not liberating as many nations to keep it balanced. But that could vary game to game as different Soviet players are harder to beat. So far nolan is doing ok, if the game is continued i have concerns if germany could complete the conquest.

As for being a cheap move omni, you are wrong. it is a legitmate option at the begining of the war, there is no way to tell how well the sovets do. From past experencie, and joel can voch for this, ive done the same occupation polices and been hammered by USSR.

So in conclusion it depends on what has happened in the game and how good a player is opposing you. All events are valid options, victory or defeat depends on the player.
 
Bit dissapointed we couldnt get a game going tonight appears Joel and Jh have succeded in dividing the group. Seems meaningless to play 3 and 4 player games when 6 or 7 would be better. Anyway hope we can resolve something that suits everyone.
 
Well, apart from the hand Russia was dealt, the game was played fairly over all.

The puppeting of the UK kind of ended the game for the allies, as should happen, and Germany would eventually have won in Russia due to superior technology and airpower.

It is to Germany's advantage to invade the UK, and having a new player there shouldn't deter them. It's part of the game and it's their to be taken, losing is a great way to remedy your errors.


On a sidenote, it would be great if we could all be involved in a game, with set house rules (as we have in the PA) which outline most troubling features of this game, and that way no-one has any excuse to pull off completely a-historical moves (like 20 panzer divisions in Africa e.t.c.).
 
Yeah it is a shame major. We could now have 6-8 players games which would be good. Alot more balanced with so many players 3vs3 or 4vs4, which would include France and china to check early axis gains and make the game more realistic. But like in anygame when one player is defeated like in our last game (uk) it makes things so one sided. Although i still think the USA and USSR would have been very hard to beat had we continued our game, would have lasted till 45 i think.