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Ok I am calling it for tanks (due to the fact that I don't know when an option will be ahead again). The outcome will be China joining the allies and our sea tanks (or are tanks land battleships) going to kill the Japanese. (No troops yet, this should be fun)

-Bullfilter Britian doesn't rule the waves yet my initial naval build program is unfinished

-El Pip that is from a Kennady quote if I am not mistaken
 
China and Tanks. Excellent.
 
Also one of Field Marshall's Montgomery's Rules of War.
A good rule for anyone ;).
I choose to vote tanks, not because it is easy, but because it is hard, because the challenge will serve to organise and measure the best of our authors energies and skills, because that challenge is one I am willing for him to accept, one I am unwilling to postpone and one I intend him to win.
Nice - despite a few faults, the son was a far better man than the father, who if I recall correctly would have been the US Ambassador to the Court of St. James soon in OTL o_O!
That said, in the interests of getting a decision, you could meet the requirements of the vote by naming all the submarines after tanks and related armoured vehicles, leaving the other category to win. Never let it be said I am not helpful.
El Pip, ‘Nobility’ is your middle name :)
 
Ok I am calling it for tanks (due to the fact that I don't know when an option will be ahead again). The outcome will be China joining the allies and our sea tanks (or are tanks land battleships) going to kill the Japanese. (No troops yet, this should be fun)

-Bullfilter Britian doesn't rule the waves yet my initial naval build program is unfinished

-El Pip that is from a Kennady quote if I am not mistaken
1. Huzzah!
2. Britain always rules the waves ;) - you will simply make that rule even more secure :D.
3. Yes, it was JFK - in reference to putting men on the moon. :cool:
 
I will always vote "2" because China and Britain are enemies since the opium-wars!
Fair point, but in this case they only have to be enemies of each other’s enemies, if that’s any consolation. And (in-game), the Nationalists did ask.
 
With regards to the opium China will have to accept the British East India Cartel's God given right to sell drugs regardless of the laws of the country or weather it is right or wrong (the fact that the British government will tax this and make a bundle is besides the point)
 
With regards to the opium China will have to accept the British East India Cartel's God given right to sell drugs regardless of the laws of the country or weather it is right or wrong (the fact that the British government will tax this and make a bundle is besides the point)
By the 1930s British (well Indian) production had long since stopped and most Chinese opium was grown domestically. Indeed the Chinese government, at all levels, relied on the tax from that and the proceeds of selling Chinese opium to other countries for funding, which is a hilarious circle-of-life moment if nothing else.
 
-Anthonest that might be hard as 1. I am writing this on my phone and 2. I don't really know how

-El Pip that may be true but the EIC (East India Cartel) offers a superior product to the local variant. Also during the war some British fire bombers might get 'lost' and set the local supply on fire
 
-Anthonest that might be hard as 1. I am writing this on my phone and 2. I don't really know how
Can see how editing on a phone would make that more difficult. But if you would like a quick practical run through on how to do screen shots I or am sure others would be happy to. Could do it by personal message so as not to clutter up your AAR.

Basic
requirements include a PC (which presumably you’re playing the game on), MS Paint or similar (at the simplest level), an internet connection for the PC and subscription to an image-hosting site (like Imageshack, Photobucket or such like). The latter is cheap, though that may depend on whether you are an impoverished student or some such, but they are not much.

We can tell you which buttons to press in-game and how to add them to an AAR. It may be possible to do that on a phone too - especially if there weren’t too many - though I suspect to do it efficiently it would mean using the PC more than the phone, which you may not want to do.

Anyway, let us know if you are ever interested in pursuing it and I’m sure a bunch of us would be happy to help :).
 
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Ok, good job! Just what’s comfortable for you, but it would be nice to see the odd pic. :)
 
-El Pip that may be true but the EIC (East India Cartel) offers a superior product to the local variant. Also during the war some British fire bombers might get 'lost' and set the local supply on fire

I'm not sure how serious you're being, but the East India Company ceased operations in 1874. ( Though amusingly, there exists a tea company founded in 2010 that nicked the name and logo, and is owned by a British-Indian businessman.)
 
-TheTeaMustFlow haven't finalised how the EIC will work yet. I do however plan to put Chamberlain in charge. Chamberlain I will give a sort of split personality. In Europe he is incredible innocent (e.g. That Hitler chappie is such a nice man and he says Franco is a nice man so Franco must be nice to) and everywhere else he will be an imperialist/drug lord (e.g. Starting a war with Japan to continue selling drugs to the Chinese)
 
You had my interest at this line. Everything since has been both great and a bonus.

Given the subject and the voting system, ancient rules dictate there is only one way I can possibly vote - Tanks.

This! Loving the concept and sarcasm :)

As for the subs: The Vamperic-Dolphin Underwater Pirate* Task Force of the Far East Seas?

*Jolly-rogers for every sub, it is a must (apparently, based off the pics of them coming home :p )!
 
Part 3 - The Treaty of Cardigan

In January of 1938 the Foreign Office received a request from Nationalist China to join the Allies as the Japanese were overrunning China. Following standard procedure for the time the Foreign Office Asia Department immediately stuck their heads in the sand (1). However a clerk at the FOAD was secretly in the employ of the East India Cartel(2) and realising what an opportunity this might be for the EIC he forwarded it on to his superiors. Eventually the Chinese request reached the EIC board where Chamberlain decided to send a diplomatic team to dictate terms (Britain doesn't negotiate with future colonial subjects it dictates terms). A deal was quickly drawn up
The Treaty of Cardigan (public clauses)
1. China gets to join the Allies
2. Britain declares war on Japan
3. Britain alone will get to negotiate a peace deal with Japan
4. Hong Kong is now sovereign British land (rather than leased for 150 years)
5. Britain pays China £1 for Hong Kong (on credit, with no interest)
6. China pays Britain £100,000,000* in silver and gold**
7. The Chinese ambassador must bow before King George VI on behalf of his nation

The Treaty of Cardigan (secret clauses)
*(per year for 50 years)
**(the other £4,900,000,000 is to be paid back over the next 200 years with 12% interest per year)
1. China pays the EIC £10,000,000 for expenses incurred in making the deal (transport, bribing parliament, accommodation etc)
2. China immediately makes the opium trade legal
3. China makes the EIC the sole legal supplier of opium in China
4. China will heavily subsidise EIC opium

The treaty before it was signed had to be ratified by parliament. Labour was against for four reasons 1. It would drag Britain into a war 2. During a war it would be much harder for unions to make workers do less work 3. It would expand the Empire and 4. It would make Britain some money. The Liberal Party for some reason was split between the Liberals and the National Liberals (long story short one votes one way and the other one votes the other way to oppose them). The Conservative party was also split on the issue. The dove faction didn't like the war (I wonder why) and the small government conservatives were unhappy as well(3). Despite this however Chamberlain managed to pass the treaty through a combination of EIC lobbying (bribes), threats and a couple of MPs voting again and again (Bullfilter MP for Dundee South and El Pip MP for Derby)

(1) At the time all overseas departments of the Foreign Office had bags of sand on hand for this procedure

(2) The East India Cartel is an offshoot of the now defunct East India Company. It was formed when the EICompany was disbanded after the Indian Muntiny. It was formed as a partnership between senior Tory (Conservative) politicians and the former EICompany board. It quickly took control of the Opium trade and now (1938) over 90% of Opium worldwide comes from the EIC. Its profits go to getting Conservative politicians elected as well as lining the pockets of the board. The current board is... Neville Chamberlain (chairman), Winston Churchill (chief lobbyist-his job is to keep India in the Empire at all costs), James Frankton 5th Lord Ponsonby (head of production-he overseas the poppy plantations in northern India) Stanley Baldwin (any Conservative Prime Minister automatically gets a seat on the board) and lastly Thomas Jameson 8th Baron Silverbrook (head of sales and enforcement-job role censored)

(3) The small government conservatives (think Rand Paul for you Americans) were unhappy for two reasons 1. Wars tend to make the government bigger (with the spending loads of money on more weapons and ships) and 2. The money from China would be spent and therefore make the government bigger

Notes
-Names for divisions are needed, please keep them 1930s British Empire (e.g. The first name I have decided on is the 1st New Zealand Royal Marine Division, with the Auckland, Wellington, Canterbury and Otago brigades. The Canterbury Brigade is made up of the Canterbury Regiment, the Tasman Regiment and the West Coast Regiment (10 points if you can guess where those names came from))
-I got slightly off topic with the EIC
-next time on Britannia Rules the Waves I bash the Labour Party some more
 
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Part 3 - The Treaty of Cardigan

In January of 1938 the Foreign Office received a request from Nationalist China to join the Allies as the Japanese were overrunning China. Following standard procedure for the time the Foreign Office Asia Department immediately stuck their heads in the sand (1). However a clerk at the FOAD was secretly in the employ of the East India Cartel(2) and realising what an opportunity this might be for the EIC he forwarded it on to his superiors. Eventually the Chinese request reached the EIC board where Chamberlain decided to send a diplomatic team to dictate terms (Britain doesn't negotiate with future colonial subjects it dictates terms). A deal was quickly drawn up
The Treaty of Cardigan (public clauses)
1. China gets to join the Allies
2. Britain declares war on Japan
3. Britain alone will get to negotiate a peace deal with Japan
4. Hong Kong is now sovereign British land (rather than leased for 150 years)
5. Britain pays China £1 for Hong Kong (on credit, with no interest)
6. China pays Britain £100,000,000* in silver and gold**
7. The Chinese ambassador must bow before King George VI on behalf of his nation

The Treaty of Cardigan (secret clauses)
*(per year for 50 years)
**(the other £4,900,000,000 is to be paid back over the next 200 years with 12% interest per year)
1. China pays the EIC £10,000,000 for expenses incurred in making the deal (transport, bribing parliament, accommodation etc)
2. China immediately makes the opium trade legal
3. China makes the EIC the sole legal supplier of opium in China
4. China will heavily subsidise EIC opium

The treaty before it was signed had to be ratified by parliament. Labour was against for four reasons 1. It would drag Britain into a war 2. During a war it would be much harder for unions to make workers do less work 3. It would expand the Empire and 4. It would make Britain some money. The Liberal Party for some reason was split between the Liberals and the National Liberals (long story short one votes one way and the other one votes the other way to oppose them). The Conservative party was also split on the issue. The dove faction didn't like the war (I wonder why) and the small government conservatives were unhappy as well(3)

(1) At the time all overseas departments of the Foreign Office had bags of sand on hand for this procedure

(2) The East India Cartel is an offshoot of the now defunct East India Company. It was formed when the EICompany was disbanded after the Indian Muntiny. It was formed as a partnership between senior Tory (Conservative) politicians and the former EICompany board. It quickly took control of the Opium trade and now (1938) over 90% of Opium worldwide comes from the EIC. Its profits go to getting Conservative politicians elected as well as lining the pockets of the board. The current board is... Neville Chamberlain (chairman), Winston Churchill (chief lobbyist-his job is to keep India in the Empire at all costs), James Frankton 5th Lord Ponsonby (head of production-he overseas the poppy plantations in northern India) Stanley Baldwin (any Conservative Prime Minister automatically gets a seat on the board) and lastly Thomas Jameson 8th Baron Silverbrook (head of sales and enforcement-job role censored)

(3) The small government conservatives (think Rand Paul for you Americans) were unhappy for two reasons 1. Wars tend to make the government bigger (with the spending loads of money on more weapons and ships) and 2. The money from China would be spent and therefore make the government bigger

Notes
-Names for divisions are needed, please keep them 1930s British Empire (e.g. The first name I have decided on is the 1st New Zealand Royal Marine Division, with the Auckland, Wellington, Canterbury and Otago brigades. The Canterbury Brigade is made up of the Canterbury Regiment, the Tasman Regiment and the West Coast Regiment (10 points if you can guess where those names came from))
-I got slightly off topic with the EIC
-next time on Britannia Rules the Waves I bash the Labour Party some more
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Well, that was a zany interlude! So the Nats signed? Good luck getting all the long term payments - if they beat the Japanese they will renege, and when the Communists take over they will repudiate. Still, it makes for a great fantasy in the EIC boardroom - Chamberlain has as much chance of seeing this honoured as the Munich Agreement: “Pieces (of Silver) in Our Time”!
 
Well, that was a zany interlude! So the Nats signed? Good luck getting all the long term payments - if they beat the Japanese they will renege, and when the Communists take over they will repudiate. Still, it makes for a great fantasy in the EIC boardroom - Chamberlain has as much chance of seeing this honoured as the Munich Agreement: “Pieces (of Silver) in Our Time”!
There is a reason an upfront payment was insisted on the Royal Navy also makes an excellent argument for paying your debts (so does the Fleet Air Arm). On the communists do you think the EIC will let them come to power and possibly interfere with the opium trade (hint: no they will not). As for Munich of course that Hitler Chap will honour his word. He's not a monster