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Not the same case, but Brain invaded Iceland, which was a neutral country. If Ireland had leaned towards the axis I see the british trying a preventive invasion...

They also invaded Iran and were planning to invade parts of Norway and Sweden. Invading Ireland may have been a bigger political issue in the US though, especially if it took place while Kennedy was still the US ambassador. The Icelandic and Iranian population in the US was dwarfed by the Irish one.
 
As a neutral head of state it was in his right to do it, ore am i wrong.

It was his right but showing sympathy for the death of a man who by then had caused more deaths than anyone else in history is a questionable move.
 
It was his right but showing sympathy for the death of a man who by then had caused more deaths than anyone else in history is a questionable move.

To be fair I'm not sure that by the time of his death, the full extent of Nazi atrocities had yet to be known. Certainly from my limited knowledge of Irish interactions with Nazi Germany and its Jewish populations during the war, there was next to no sense of the kind of horrors that were going on.
 
To be fair I'm not sure that by the time of his death, the full extent of Nazi atrocities had yet to be known. Certainly from my limited knowledge of Irish interactions with Nazi Germany and its Jewish populations during the war, there was next to no sense of the kind of horrors that were going on.

I’m not even talking about the then still relatively unknown Holocaust. That Adolf Hitler had started the Second World War and the scale of the resulting carnage was known at the time.
 
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The Holocaust was well and truly known be the time of Hitler's death. The camps had been found and filmed by soldiers from virtually every nation involved in the war against Germany.
 
The Holocaust was well and truly known be the time of Hitler's death. The camps had been found and filmed by soldiers from virtually every nation involved in the war against Germany.
But had they been shown to the world, did Irish prime minister De Valera know if this and if he had, would he not have send his message of condolence.
 
Even if they could they would be without escorts.
No, from Brest to Cork they could have escorts with 20% fuel left. It does not make that air supply thing less silly tho.
 
But had they been shown to the world, did Irish prime minister De Valera know if this and if he had, would he not have send his message of condolence.

De Valera hated the English. Anybody who fought against the English was his friend. Hence Hitler and the Nazis were friends. There were plenty of groups within Europe who supported Hitler because he was the enemy of their enemy. Even recently there has been some ugly incidents with various Baltic nationalists praising the Nazis because they hate the Russians.

Once hate enters the equation, sensible rationality goes out the window and evil fills its place.
 
De Valera hated the English. Anybody who fought against the English was his friend. Hence Hitler and the Nazis were friends. There were plenty of groups within Europe who supported Hitler because he was the enemy of their enemy. Even recently there has been some ugly incidents with various Baltic nationalists praising the Nazis because they hate the Russians.

Once hate enters the equation, sensible rationality goes out the window and evil fills its place.
But he was clever enough not to provide the British a reason to put Ireland in the same camps as the other minor Axis members.
 
A little bit of context:
https://www.historyireland.com/20th...lera-hitler-the-visit-of-condolence-may-1945/

Short version: He followed protocol by sending his condolences by a visit to the german embassy,
for the ambassadors' (Eduard Hempel) "conduct was irreproachable",
but neither did they put their flag on half mast, as was done when Roosevelt had died and is standard in
diplomatic protocol for leaders of states with good relations, nor was the parliament adjourned.

The fun part is how the Irish Times reported with the quality of any tabloid (regarding Lisbon and the swastika flag), as it does today.
Just with better wording
Similar to its London equiv..
Whatever.

excerpt:
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He wrote to his close friend Robert Brennan, the Irish envoy in Washington, that he had ‘noted that my call on the German minister on the announcement of Hitler’s death was played up to the utmost. I expected this’, and he added:

I could have had a diplomatic illness but, as you know, I would scorn that sort of thing…So long as we retained our diplomatic relations with Germany, to have failed to call upon the German representative would have been an act of unpardonable discourtesy to the German nation and to Dr Hempel himself. During the whole of the war, Dr Hempel’s conduct was irreproachable. He was always friendly and invariably correct—in marked contrast with Gray. I certainly was not going to add to his humiliation in the hour of defeat.

De Valera felt that shirking his visit would have set a bad precedent. It was, he thought, of considerable importance that the formal acts of courtesy should be made on occasions such as the death of a head of state and that they should not have attached to them any further special significance, such as connoting approval or disapproval of the politics of the state in question or of its head: ‘It is important that it should never be inferred that these formal acts imply the passing of any judgements good or bad’, he concluded. In Dáil Éireann, de Valera stated that his visit ‘implied no question of approval or disapproval or judgement of any kind on the German people of the state represented here’. He added that there was little publicity given to the fact that the Dáil had been adjourned on the death of President Roosevelt.

Just media playing stuff up. As they do.

The different reactions of the british (Maffey) and american (Gray) ambassadors are also telling..
The British representative, Sir John Maffey, understood de Valera better than his US counterpart. Exasperated as he had been on many occasions by de Valera during the course of the war, Maffey had come to admire the Irish leader. Both Maffey and Gray were fully aware that de Valera was not pro-Axis and that he had been of considerable covert assistance to the Allies during the course of the war. He had never shown any admiration for Hitler or for the Nazis during the 1930s or during the war years. Yet, Gray’s immediate response on confirming the news of de Valera’s visit was to suggest to Washington that he should be recalled in protest. He also encouraged Maffey to persuade London to follow the same course. Neither the US nor the British felt it necessary to take such an extreme course of action.
 
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Thank you for this. I learned something new.