Anybody think there's a chance that the Bronze Age mod comes back to it's rightful place? *Crossing fingers*
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Founding Bronze Age Egyptian and Mesopotamian cities , pyramid wonders, levies. The Bronze Age mod is made for imperator so I really hope so. I think trade is the last base system overhaul needed, and maybe then the mod leader might be convinced. I just think IR has more to be excited about than ck3 for Bronze Age features
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Maybe years later, so I'm not expecting it to happen in the short term. That mod was a perfect suit for Imperator, I found that really weird when they decided to move onto the CK3. The game wasn't popular yes but they could be more patient. I was looking forward to playing the mod in Imperator but even if I buy CK3 I'm not sure if I'd play that mod on CK3.
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I've tried to play the mod on CK3, and I find it very odd.
I get that when they were looking to transition to CK3, things were looking bleak for Imperator. But it just feels like in retrospect to be the bad move.
Imperator is truly the superior platform for their mod at this point.
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From the mod dev, Svanley, in his discord.
Which, I mean yeah it's a real shame because the Bronze Age for Imperator was a fantastic mod, the themes fit the mechanics well imo. The Bronze Age for CK3 is... decidedly less fantastic in my personal opinion. The idea that one can have a Bronze Age era game without a single spot of trade mechanics is... very unfaithful to the period. I do not enjoy the CK3 version of Bronze Age at all. :/
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Just.. wow.
Anyway, maybe a team would continue that work on Imperator successfully someday. The chance of this happening will increase in time due to the increase of the game's popularity.
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sadly the rocky start of IR made it a wasteland for big/total conversion mods we know from other PDX games. Maybe some new team will get permission to take over the bronze age mod and update it
He has already said that he doesn't mind if others continue the mod. Lets hope someone will pick it up.
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I get that the guy has his own opinion but I can't imagine thinking that a bronze age period game should NOT be about empire building as he states, pretty much the defining factor of the near east bronze age (at least in terms of social organisation) was the formation of a succession of greater and greater empires resulting in the late bronze age period of relative peace and stability before the collapse
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Agreed - there are so many elements that IR has which could be built on.
Not to mention it's got elements of individual character interactions, empire and trade elements...
How could they think that CK3 is superior for all of the intricacies of this period?
I totally understand if they would just acknowledge that CK3 had a bigger player base and therefore made most sense for them to move at that given time.
But trying to rationalize it through some historical relevance argument seems rather hallow and doesn't hold up under scrutiny... At least to me.
That said - if any of you in the modding community want to pick up that Bronze Age mantle I'd be greatly appreciative.
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This is incorrect. Before CK3s release modders could apply to get early access to have a mod ready for release. Bronze Age applied and was successful. He wooed paradox, not the other way around
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It would honestly be super weird for one Paradox dev team to "poach" modders from another.
I mean, it would be super weird for them to give enough of a shit about modders to poach them at all, but doing so within the company is a level beyond even that.
It's mad conspiracy theorising on its face.
I mean, it would be super weird for them to give enough of a shit about modders to poach them at all, but doing so within the company is a level beyond even that.
It's mad conspiracy theorising on its face.
I just think trying to relate to Bronze Age Pharoahs CK3 style for characters like Hatsheppsut and Rameses isn’t easy because those peoples’s values were worlds apart from our own. Like sure society isn’t fanatically Christian or Muslim (bar the exceptional extremists on all sides) now as it was during the crusades but the world is still for the most part majority those religions in CK3 so their relatable. But Bronze Age values are so out of touch with our own it just doesn’t feel right to play through the characters eyes. And it doesn’t come across well in my opinion.
But their civilisation and the time are fascinating. So that detached pop, city building perspective of IR combined with the more abstract characters I can really get into, like building cities along the Nile and the Euphrates is what the period is all about along with empire building.
But the modders comments about constantly updating the game is such a valid reason. I can imagine updating the game must have been a total nightmare. So in that regard I hope trade is the last ‘core system’ that’s gonna be ripped out and reworked. After that I think diplomacy, governorments and characters have just more detail added but not ripped apart and reworked (but new tabs like vassal interactions are needed)
But their civilisation and the time are fascinating. So that detached pop, city building perspective of IR combined with the more abstract characters I can really get into, like building cities along the Nile and the Euphrates is what the period is all about along with empire building.
But the modders comments about constantly updating the game is such a valid reason. I can imagine updating the game must have been a total nightmare. So in that regard I hope trade is the last ‘core system’ that’s gonna be ripped out and reworked. After that I think diplomacy, governorments and characters have just more detail added but not ripped apart and reworked (but new tabs like vassal interactions are needed)
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To be frank, as someone who has tried modding Paradox games before- constantly having to redo everything because of patches is a common feature of working with every Paradox game, at least since Stellaris came out. You just have to accept that overhead if you want to mod the games.
All this said, though, if the Bronze Age team think it's better on CK3 then I respect that. I'm non-plussed by the argument that it's better to focus on personalities in that era (where we know so little about those personalities), but I don't see a strong positive argument for Imp's mechanics matching the era, either.
And, ultimately- it's their mod.
All this said, though, if the Bronze Age team think it's better on CK3 then I respect that. I'm non-plussed by the argument that it's better to focus on personalities in that era (where we know so little about those personalities), but I don't see a strong positive argument for Imp's mechanics matching the era, either.
And, ultimately- it's their mod.
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I'll be even more excited to see the Lord of the Rings - Realms in exile be picked back up/taken over. It's still one of the most subscribed mods and it's been dormant since 1.2....
Well that's even worse, sold out for early game access when both seemed incomplete at the time
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Credit: @Snowlet
[mod] Bronze Age Reborn released (for 2.0)
Continuation of the Bronze Age for Imperator 2.0 - now maintained by Snowlet - V2.1.1 You can find the mod here: Bronze Age 2.0 You can find Svanley's continued work for Bronze Age CK3 here. All credit for the original mod to the original...
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Credit: @Snowlet
[mod] Bronze Age Reborn released (for 2.0)
Continuation of the Bronze Age for Imperator 2.0 - now maintained by Snowlet - V2.1.1 You can find the mod here: Bronze Age 2.0 You can find Svanley's continued work for Bronze Age CK3 here. All credit for the original mod to the original...forum.paradoxplaza.com
I saw this and have been playing it for a few hours already.
Needless to say - I am over the moon!
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