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Possible for members of an alliance to be at war with eachother

This leads to some screwy things, but basically it happens as follows:

1) Have a neutral declare war on another neutral (eg: Japan declare war on China) or have an alliance declare war on a neutral (eg: Allies declare war on unalligned Italy)
2) Have an opposing alliance declare war on the alliance (eg: Axis declares war on Allies or China)
3) Have the opposing alliance also declare war on the neutral. (eg: Axis declares war on Italy or Japan)

The neutral will then join the alliance, but will still be at war with one or possibly all of its members, resulting in very strange occurances. One of three things should happen instead:
1) The neutral just doesn't join an alliance
2) The neutral joins a third alliance also at war with the opposing alliance (eg: Comintern)
3) The neutral makes peace with the other neutral, then joins the alliance to deal with the new threat. Or, the neutral joins the alliance, and peace is made among the alliance.

Either way, members of an alliance should never be at war with one another - either cancel the wars by making that an effect of joining an alliance (preferred), or prevent the nation from joining the alliance in the first place.


This may be solvable through AI events, particularly for the third option, although a code change may be easier.
 
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I thought this was fixed in 1.05c?

Before for example Romina could be member of the Axis and simultanously be at war with the axis.

The usual question: Which version are you playing?
 
Interesting Dialog Box...

I seem to have a repeatable case with this. First I ran into the resource bug which wiped out my oil. So I edited the save game file to restore it and within a few days I'd gotten this dialog box:

AI_Event
Unknown String Wanted
Alliance with Italy
Unknown String Wanted

I'm playing as Germany, and Italy had wontonly attacked me a few months earlier (the bastards). Now after clicking on this dialog box, Italy shows up as being allied with the Axis, but also at war with the Axis. Interestingly enough, I lost all of my Italian territority, but not my divisions - which are still able to attack/defend against the Italian formations.

Anyway, I do have a save game if Paradox needs a look at it.

Thanks...
 
I ran into this problem again. Something new that I hadn't noticed before - after Italy becomes my ally, I no longer have the option to bring *anyone* else to the axis. That option is permanently unavailable after this issue occurs.

Again, I do have a saved game, as well as a screenshot of the dialog box.

Thanks,
Alan
 
I-Burn said:
I ran into this problem again. Something new that I hadn't noticed before - after Italy becomes my ally, I no longer have the option to bring *anyone* else to the axis. That option is permanently unavailable after this issue occurs.

Again, I do have a saved game, as well as a screenshot of the dialog box.

Thanks,
Alan

How much Diplomatic Influence Points do you have?