Bug reports

[Dreilide]

I don't know if this should be in a different thread as it might not be considered a bug, but I'm having issues with my sons spamming requests to go join a holy order. One asked twice while he was heir to Denmark, and another asked three times and he was the sole heir to Andalusia, his father also being in a holy order because yeah, everyone wants to do it all of a sudden. I kept refusing his father, racking up about -400 piety and -100 in relations, then married him to the queen of scotland to further the spread of my dynasty, and the fucker then went and joined a holy order anyways.

I seriously think it needs to be toned down a notch and have a son who you've previously refused not ask any more, and maybe decrease the probability of someone who is an heir to something, especially a kingdom, joining a holy order.

I am running HIP with the newest version of all of the standard mods(apart from SWMH), with Family Relations, Subtle Sounds and Keyboard Shortcuts in tow.

EDIT: When all is summed up, while refusing my sons' and grandsons' requests(because I'd have no dynasty members to give choice land to otherwise -.-, and having an AI be king of Jerusalem and Andalusia spells disaster), I lost about 1500 in piety, which is inhumane.

 

[Finarfin]

I don't know if this should be in a different thread as it might not be considered a bug, but I'm having issues with my sons spamming requests to go join a holy order. One asked twice while he was heir to Denmark, and another asked three times and he was the sole heir to Andalusia, his father also being in a holy order because yeah, everyone wants to do it all of a sudden. I kept refusing his father, racking up about -400 piety and -100 in relations, then married him to the queen of scotland to further the spread of my dynasty, and the fucker then went and joined a holy order anyways.

I seriously think it needs to be toned down a notch and have a son who you've previously refused not ask any more, and maybe decrease the probability of someone who is an heir to something, especially a kingdom, joining a holy order.

I am running HIP with the newest version of all of the standard mods(apart from SWMH), with Family Relations, Subtle Sounds and Keyboard Shortcuts in tow.

EDIT: When all is summed up, while refusing my sons' and grandsons' requests(because I'd have no dynasty members to give choice land to otherwise -.-, and having an AI be king of Jerusalem and Andalusia spells disaster), I lost about 1500 in piety, which is inhumane.

I've seen this happen a lot, as well. My experience recently has been that both male children and siblings that are single and have no planned inheritances are extremely eager to join military orders. It's something that I was never really encountering before.

 

[zijistark]

I've seen this happen a lot, as well. My experience recently has been that both male children and siblings that are single and have no planned inheritances are extremely eager to join military orders. It's something that I was never really encountering before.

I've never encountered this (in fact, I keep latently wondering if HIP is somehow preventing most of the SoA stuff I keep hearing about from ever happening to me for some reason-- style of play correlation, whatever). However, it sounds really flavorful and relatively realistic to me (historical abdications upon succession were not uncommon simply because the next in line had no interest in ruling). I'd trade @Dreilide.

 

[zijistark]

I started a new game while having only this:

Is this correct now? Because I seem to have an on_action wordpad file that is totally scrambled and without spacing. Does that matter? Because one more game I have to restart will not do well to rekindle my love for this game.

And I can confirm the blots are back on. Sorry for that, imprisoned catholic priest. You almost got away with it (well, that and molesting kids I reckon), but the feast is back on!

[ relating to hand-editing on_decade_pulse ]

Yes, everything you did would've broken the game, TBH. That's the main reason I pushed for an immediate hotfix to address this, and we lumped in as many other fixes as possible: you are not advised to ever hand-edit the mod files unless you're ready to reinstall a lot or know what you're doing. So I'm glad this is now fixed anyway in the 2014-03-14 release.

 

[Aeven]

I've noticed I had some localisation for duchies missing, notably in Lotharingia (among which, d_frisia, d_liege and the one for Frisian culture.) Is this an issue with my install or am I simply the first to report this?

 

[Meneth]

I've noticed I had some localisation for duchies missing, notably in Lotharingia (among which, d_frisia, d_liege and the one for Frisian culture.) Is this an issue with my install or am I simply the first to report this?

Could you post the contents of the "version.txt" file in your HIP folder?

 

[Marginal0]

The problem with the Jorvik army sitting in Eire is still present. It's been reported months ago. It's an army of 8K soldiers just sitting there doing nothing, unless you eradicate them yourself.

 

[Aeven]

Could you post the contents of the "version.txt" file in your HIP folder?

Historical Immersion Project (2014-03-14)
Enabled modules:
ARKO Armoiries (2014-02-15)
ARKO Interface (2014-02-15)
Project Balance (v3.5.0 - 2014-03-14)
NBRT+ (v2.1 - 2014-03-14)
VIET Events (v1.5.5 - 2014-03-14)
VIET Immersion (v1.5.5 - 2014-03-14)

 

[Meneth]

Historical Immersion Project (2014-03-14)
Enabled modules:
ARKO Armoiries (2014-02-15)
ARKO Interface (2014-02-15)
Project Balance (v3.5.0 - 2014-03-14)
NBRT+ (v2.1 - 2014-03-14)
VIET Events (v1.5.5 - 2014-03-14)
VIET Immersion (v1.5.5 - 2014-03-14)

I'd imagine it is a VIET Immersion issue, then. Cybr or Ordep will probably fix it by next release.

 

[highsis]

HIP march 14th full setup with SWMH.

As an orthodox greek, I can wage holy wars and conquest(muslim conquest, no less) against other orthodox greek rulers. I was playing a vassal of the Byzantium emperor, and I had "conquest of (every county, duchy, kingdom, empire including the Roman empire)" and "holy war (of every duchy)" CB against him.

Something is very very wrong. Christian rulers are fighting muslim conquest wars against each other.

Here. I can conquer the whole Roman empire ruled by my daughter-in-law who has the same faith and culture, and on which I have no claims by a muslim conquest or a holy war.

I mean no offense, but I couldn't help but feel a bit sad because I started the game for the first time after waiting couple months since 2.04 release to avoid bugs. T_T..

Thanks for the hard work, though! I really enjoy the mod.


ps. conquest CB does nothing on actual use. I used it, conquered the whole empire, but there were no spoils for a victory.

p.s.2 holy wars cannot even be declared. they are just there as clickable options.

p.s.3 in first 50 years I saw HRE annexing France and Scotland conquering England, and annual repetition of war of conquest between christian monarchs. It seems like AIs can use the CBs with full effects.

 

[Marginal0]

I've just about had enough of omelettes now. There was an error in the prevalence (and mere existence) of the omelette event, which lasts forever. You told me how to fix it and it was gone. Now I've downloaded your patch and here it goes again. Just 4 years into the game there's over 10 holdings who hold the festival. The event just needs to go, or have a value of 15000000 or something, because the game doesn't seem to be able to handle it. That said, there's various events I've never even see trigger. Either make it superconditional (for example: only trigger in counties where the ruler is gluttonous or charitable) or just delete it, as it triggers all the time. In a long game, this will render counties pretty much immune to revolutions, which is of course ridiculous.

It's not that my save is broken now as it's perfectly fine - great even - to have a limited number of counties that have it. But enough is enough. I've had it with these mf'ing omelettes.

 

[DrewBledsoe]

Ok Playing as Normans starting small in Sicily, 105 yrs later, no provinces have changed culture..none at all, in my kingdom, which is now Jerusalem , Africa, and Sicily. All rulers have been Normaund [been v careful of this too]

Looking through the events code, I'm surmising this is because I set the start with `no ahistorical empires`....the code seems to want a K_italy , which doesnt exist anymore....

Appreciate it if someone would check / confirm this ty.

 

[Meneth]

Ok Playing as Normans starting small in Sicily, 105 yrs later, no provinces have changed culture..none at all, in my kingdom, which is now Jerusalem , Africa, and Sicily. All rulers have been Normaund [been v careful of this too]

Looking through the events code, I'm surmising this is because I set the start with `no ahistorical empires`....the code seems to want a K_italy , which doesnt exist anymore....

Appreciate it if someone would check / confirm this ty.

I'll look into it, thanks.

Edit: The only bit that should be broken is specifically converting Greeks.
I'll make it target the kingdom of Sicily as well to guarantee that doesn't fully break in NAE.

HIP march 14th full setup with SWMH.

As an orthodox greek, I can wage holy wars and conquest(muslim conquest, no less) against other orthodox greek rulers. I was playing a vassal of the Byzantium emperor, and I had "conquest of (every county, duchy, kingdom, empire including the Roman empire)" and "holy war (of every duchy)" CB against him.

Something is very very wrong. Christian rulers are fighting muslim conquest wars against each other.

Here. I can conquer the whole Roman empire ruled by my daughter-in-law who has the same faith and culture, and on which I have no claims by a muslim conquest or a holy war.

I mean no offense, but I couldn't help but feel a bit sad because I started the game for the first time after waiting couple months since 2.04 release to avoid bugs. T_T..

Thanks for the hard work, though! I really enjoy the mod.


ps. conquest CB does nothing on actual use. I used it, conquered the whole empire, but there were no spoils for a victory.

p.s.2 holy wars cannot even be declared. they are just there as clickable options.

p.s.3 in first 50 years I saw HRE annexing France and Scotland conquering England, and annual repetition of war of conquest between christian monarchs. It seems like AIs can use the CBs with full effects.

Try redownloading; an issue similar to yours was hotfixed yesterday. Should've announced that hotfix a bit better I suppose, but the error wasn't in there for that long so I didn't think all that many people were affected

 

[cybrxkhan]

I've just about had enough of omelettes now. There was an error in the prevalence (and mere existence) of the omelette event, which lasts forever. You told me how to fix it and it was gone. Now I've downloaded your patch and here it goes again. Just 4 years into the game there's over 10 holdings who hold the festival. The event just needs to go, or have a value of 15000000 or something, because the game doesn't seem to be able to handle it. That said, there's various events I've never even see trigger. Either make it superconditional (for example: only trigger in counties where the ruler is gluttonous or charitable) or just delete it, as it triggers all the time. In a long game, this will render counties pretty much immune to revolutions, which is of course ridiculous.

It's not that my save is broken now as it's perfectly fine - great even - to have a limited number of counties that have it. But enough is enough. I've had it with these mf'ing omelettes.

We did jack up the chances of that event chain not happening (though before it's chances were in theory pretty low), in fact, and also fixed a bug that would have made it constantly by ignoring the triggers. Anyhow it may be the decade pulse is borked, so I may move it to the five year pulse instead.

Additionally, it does have some specific trait triggers (among other specific triggers) already.

 

[Marginal0]

We did jack up the chances of that event chain not happening (though before it's chances were in theory pretty low), in fact, and also fixed a bug that would have made it constantly by ignoring the triggers. Anyhow it may be the decade pulse is borked, so I may move it to the five year pulse instead.

Additionally, it does have some specific trait triggers (among other specific triggers) already.

Yes I noticed. But it didn't stop the game from spamming them. Anyhow, I love these permanent flavor bonuses, but there should be a clause that it can happen in 10 (worldwide) counties max for the entire playthrough. Is there a trigger to limit the prevalence to 10?

 

[cybrxkhan]

Yes I noticed. But it didn't stop the game from spamming them. Anyhow, I love these permanent flavor bonuses, but there should be a clause that it can happen in 10 (worldwide) counties max for the entire playthrough. Is there a trigger to limit the prevalence to 10?

Strange it's still spamming the events now... The chances of you getting the event once around every decade should be less than 0.01% at this point (or lower, I forgot exactly) and while it's theoretically possible the RNG god is being a troll I guess we shouldn't count on that given you got it four times in a roll.

I don't know of any way to limit the prevelence to an exact number. Anyhow I thought I added a restriction where it can't happen if there's already a province in your realm that has the modifier, but upon looking at the code right now, it appears it's not there, I suppose I'll throw that in besides moving these events to the five year pulse.

 

[Marginal0]

Well, time does fly playing this game, but so far I'm still piloting Snake-in-the-Eye so it can't have been that long. I didn't count the prevalences but there's several festivals on some random counties I've selected. I did start the game while having outright deleted the events. They are back for just a few years and they've popped up. Just to be clear: 'I' didn't get the event so far. AI rulers are getting it.

 

[Nerodemon1]

Getting alot of CTDs with latest version (2014-03-14) running everything but VIET Immersion, not sure what causes them, they happen as regularly as a year and no more than 3 years.

 

[tsf4]

Game running smoothly with just PB, Borders, and Viet for about 10 years then all of a sudden a CTD in 876... really sucks because it was a crazy game! Reginar dynasty inherited Lotharingia and Italy, and both Mercia and Wessez were still going strong. Bummer.

 

[Nerodemon1]

Game running smoothly with just PB, Borders, and Viet for about 10 years then all of a sudden a CTD in 876... really sucks because it was a crazy game! Reginar dynasty inherited Lotharingia and Italy, and both Mercia and Wessez were still going strong. Bummer.

Yes ive tested a new game and crashes seem to come after 876, and quite regular.