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I noticed odd behavior from my dwarves.

1. They sometimes refuse to dig a block. Solution seems to be quit the client and reload a save. My dwarves then dug the block right away.

2. (Possible misunderstanding of the mechanics of fertilization stones) I had a nice field of fertile soil, enough for 3 fertilization stones. I build 3 stones and assigned 9 workers total. Expecting a nice income of wood I was dismayed to see my worker dwarvers standing around doing nothing. Not eating, not sleeping, nor working. The stones overlapped each other slightly and all had 3/3 dwarves assigned and I had a total of 9 workers. They simply didn't work. Exiting the client and reloading didn't help.

Impression:
- Fun game. Worth the 10 dollars. However I'm afraid I might not make it through the campaign. It's already becoming too routine and repetitive. Admittingly, I have spent over 30 hours on it already but I'm seeing repetitive patterns develop in each map without much challenge from enemies or management decisions.

Looking forward to more in the future!
 
Put another zero behind your number and you have how many hours I have in the game so far and still enjoying it.
:D

Diggers refusing to dig? Never! ;)
Not sure on that one. Did you notice if they went right away to sleep or eat after you reloaded? Their minds might have been on other things. Obviously since they dug it out on the reload it isn’t a pathing issue, but did you notice anything else at the time? Was this after a lot of digging – like a huge area or just a small tunnel?

The Fertile stones – yeah, you can’t (nor would you really want to) over lap them like that. Even if you did have all 9 Workers going, they would be standing around anyhow. And besides, later on there is a tech that upgrade the Fertile Stone to have 6 per stone. I never have more than 3 on one stone myself and maybe two stones total for a max of 31 Dwarves.
 
Yes, you don't need many stones, even for a big settlement. Also don't forget that you gain access to better plants when your workers get better or when you research them.

As for the diggers: I noticed that sometimes diggers stand around and can't decide what to do, even when a digging area is near them. But usually they just take a few moments and then they get back to work. I never had it that they totally refused to mine a block, i don't even needed to restart. Just give them some time... ;)
 
My diggers have been very eager to dig, however 2 of my research dwarves once refused to continue their science stuff. Despite the fact that i had plenty of free researcher tables nearby and they had food and sleep they simply walked around just chillaxing. Apart from that i haven't really had any dwarf ai issues.
 
My diggers have been very eager to dig, however 2 of my research dwarves once refused to continue their science stuff. Despite the fact that i had plenty of free researcher tables nearby and they had food and sleep they simply walked around just chillaxing. Apart from that i haven't really had any dwarf ai issues.

I should of mentioned in my original post that I have experienced this with researchers as well. I usually build 2 researchers along with 2 tables. I had a researcher refuse to do anything. He didn't need food or sleep. I tried teleporting him next to the table and he still refused. I waited for a period of time that i would consider far too long for him to resume his research. Finally, after saving the game and closing the client, on reload he immediately walked to the table and began researching.

I would bet it's the same bug as I described above with my digger dwarves.
 
Can't say I've seen that happen for an very long time now. As long as there is a path to it they may hesitate for a bit, but not very long. Not saying it isn’t happening – just saying I haven’t seen that and you have me very curious.
Perhaps the next time it does happen you could post a screen print of it.
When this does happen – they just stand there doing nothing – not even walking around?
 
It's the military dwarves that kill me (literally). Most of them stand around eating while the place is under attack, while their lone comrades go out one by one and get slaughtered.
 
It's the military dwarves that kill me (literally). Most of them stand around eating while the place is under attack, while their lone comrades go out one by one and get slaughtered.
Now this, yes see it from time to time. The warriors are at times more concerned about fighting hunger then monsters. For now the best defense against this are the odds. The more Military the better and the less will be waving about chicken legs instead of swords.
 
I can confirm the bug !!

If a digger that is assigned to a block dies no other digger will dig that block
-> the level/map has to be restarted in order to dig the block


Please solve this !!
Did you happen to unmark to be dug and then mark it again before the reload?
And was is it still undigable if you did?
 
I've had it a couple times where the diggers refused to dig a block that was assigned for digging. I didn't try the save and load to see if they would go and dig that block, I tried many times of unselecting it and then selecting it again to no avail. I finally gave up and just left it there undug as it did not mess up what I was trying to layout in the game. This is in a custom game as I don't play campaigns unless I have no other choice.
 
Did you happen to unmark to be dug and then mark it again before the reload?
And was is it still undigable if you did?

I tried unmarking and marking several times before reloading,
but no digger dug the block.

The bug happened to me multiple times,
that's how I noticed the problem with the dead diggers.


Before the reload I always unmarked the block
and it became digable after the reload.

I never tried to reload with the block still marked for digging.
 
This is a custome game too?
Maybe a print screen next time or even the save game file (although) if the load game works - then that might not help. But something more to go off of - type of resource, any other activities, etc??????
 
This is a custome game too?
Maybe a print screen next time or even the save game file (although) if the load game works - then that might not help. But something more to go off of - type of resource, any other activities, etc??????

Didn't had the bug in custom games yet.

And I didn't memorize what happened at that moment, but I will try to bring in more information if this happens again.
 
I've got a bug where a dwarf died (I think he starved because there was no free path to a table) on a bed and the bed became unusable. It can't be moved (except by digging beneath it) nor sold. The dying dwarf probably didn't trigger the "bed becomes available again" event. That caused yet another bug where one of my workers always sleeps on the floor (not really, he's floating in the sky) right next to where the bed was (before I dug beneath and hid it in a hole to satisfy my OCD).

Had another bug where dwarves tried to reach a digging site again and again, climbing up where there was no ladder, then falling down.

From what I've read many paradox games come with a big pile of bugs. That's perfectly fine with me, there's usually plenty of patches. Can anybody tell me whether there's a site specifically for bug reports? Is this sub forum the right place?
 
I've got a bug where a dwarf died (I think he starved because there was no free path to a table) on a bed and the bed became unusable. It can't be moved (except by digging beneath it) nor sold. The dying dwarf probably didn't trigger the "bed becomes available again" event. That caused yet another bug where one of my workers always sleeps on the floor (not really, he's floating in the sky) right next to where the bed was (before I dug beneath and hid it in a hole to satisfy my OCD).

Had another bug where dwarves tried to reach a digging site again and again, climbing up where there was no ladder, then falling down.

From what I've read many paradox games come with a big pile of bugs. That's perfectly fine with me, there's usually plenty of patches. Can anybody tell me whether there's a site specifically for bug reports? Is this sub forum the right place?
You can report bugs here:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-of-Dwarves-Technical-Support-and-Bug-Reports