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Or I stand alone in being this overly enthusiastic about the last remnants of the Goths.
Perhaps, but I am rather passionate about the East Germanic languages (and I think Crimean Gothic was East Germanic), so I agree.
 
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I'm just guessing here, but one could say "they" has been an old and long-accepted neutral way to refer to an unknown third person, but its use as a preferred personal pronoun of an otherwise known individual is a new kind of application of the term. This innovation is primarily utilised by one side of the currently ongoing so-called "culture wars", which resulted in the other side developing an aversion to the usage of the word even in its previously common and accepted application. In short, the word became politically charged to some.

My native language is not English though and I don't have a uni degree in English either, so I might be just babbling nonsense here.
Oh you're completely right. I just wanted them (see what I did there) to say it. The use of the word "poisoning" is rather telling. I'll admit, though, that that was in bad faith. But so have the vast majority of the posts on this thread, so I'm not in terrible company.
 
Perhaps, but I am rather passionate about the East Germanic languages (and I think Crimean Gothic was East Germanic), so I agree.
I did not expect to run into someone else who shares my niche interest, much less here on this forum of a game set way past the glory days of the Goths.

I do agree that the East Germanic languages are very interesting, especially from the viewpoint of a native speaker of North Germanic. There are unexpectedly large amounts of similarities between old/proto-Norse and early Gothic despite the large amount of time separating the two. It also helps with creating Gothic location names for a mod :D

PS: You're most likely correct with your assessment of Crimean Gothic, although the lack of an extensive corpus makes this hard to say for certain. If that is the case they're likely to have diverged from the Greuthungi who stayed behind, when they migrated and eventually became known as the Ostrogoths.
 
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Nah, it's a bit too pitiful to be tilting.

I generally in favor of the option, but autistically arguing for or against the validity of this change for over 40 pages is pretty dumb.


Sometimes, Lambert, you need to know when to cut your losses (even though technically you didn't lose, you still get the optional game rule, arguing with people clearly not arguing in good faith is very much a loss in my books) and leave the thread to wallow in its own stupidity.

There are literally a multitude of discussions to be had, both about Project Caesar and not. Stop wasting your time here.
 
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I generally in favor of the option, but autistically arguing for or against the validity of this change for over 40 pages is pretty dumb.


Sometimes, Lambert, you need to know when to cut your losses (even though technically you didn't lose, you still get the optional game rule, arguing with people clearly not arguing in good faith is very much a loss in my books) and leave the thread to wallow in its own stupidity.

There are literally a multitude of discussions to be had, both about Project Caesar and not. Stop wasting your time here.
I'm just treating this thread as light entertainment, also keeping an eye out for a nice spot to crack a few jokes and farm me some haha reactions.
 
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My personal issue with he/she is that it is just unwieldy. Like: "he/she was so sure of his/her abilities that he/she took it upon himself/herself" and so on.
I don't disagree with you that it is clumsy. But, if someone wants to go the the trouble of writing it such, we probably all know what it means. I'm grateful my wife, who has a PhD in English/Film has accepted they finally. She was a he/she advocate for an extended run.
 
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I do not read most posts in this thread, so I'm kinda confused:

How do you guys make it to turn the topic, from [Byz vs. E. R.] to [personal pronouns under the perspective of gender identities]?

I remember that in a diary that introuced some staffs in CK3 studio, dev used "they" for each of them -- not sure why. Perhaps for those who does not want their gender identity to be mentioned (in that way, an implied emphizing), the word "they" can play a universial role.
 
How do you guys make it to turn the topic, from [Byz vs. E. R.] to [personal pronouns under the perspective of gender identities]?
Because it's arguably more interesting than the same three arguments about the name of some long-dead state.
I remember that in a diary that introuced some staffs in CK3 studio, dev used "they" for each of them -- not sure why. Perhaps for those who does not want their gender identity to be mentioned (in that way, an implied emphizing), the word "they" can play a universial role.
I guess, yeah. It's more like, the gender identity of those people is completely irrelevant to the discussion, so there is no need to specify? After all you are writing for an audience.

Even on the forums, I don't know anyone's gender, and no one knows mine, but all of this is completely extraneous to whatever discussion we may be having. So you could use "they," or "he/she." Still, I think "they" is more all-encompassing, in a way. One could argue that "they" includes every point on the spectrum, where "he/she" still conforms to the binary. But again you can say what you like, in the end.
 
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Even on the forums, I don't know anyone's gender, and no one knows mine, but all of this is completely extraneous to whatever discussion we may be having. So you could use "they," or "he/she." Still, I think "they" is more all-encompassing, in a way. One could argue that "they" includes every point on the spectrum, where "he/she" still conforms to the binary. But again you can say what you like, in the end.
Ahh... it's too complicated for me. I don't want to put some structure in my own mind over other people, whether this structure is kinda "progressive" of not. I oppose such ontonology.

So I prefer to use what the guy speaking to me prefers -- such preference is limiited to each single dialog ciecumstance, not related to any other grand theroy/ideology. Grand/abstractive things should not invade our daily life.
 
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So I prefer to use what the guy speaking to me prefer -- such situation is limiited to each single dialog ciecumstance, not related to any other grand theroy/ideology. Grand/abstractive things should not invade our daily life.
Yep. Same here, it hardly hurts me to be nice.
Lol this thread has the most replies in the tinto talks subforum
We did it, Reddit!
 
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Lol this thread has the most replies in the tinto talks subforum
Yesterday we were talking about whether this thread would end up reaching 1453 posts xD.
 
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This was your plan all along, wasn't it?

You Son of a Gun...

No, that was not the name of my mom :)

Actually, Gun is female name not too uncommon in the boomer and older generation in Sweden.. A friends mom was called that, and I had a russian teacher in highschool named Gun.
 
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Actually, Gun is female name not too uncommon in the boomer and older generation in Sweden.. A friends mom was called that, and I had a russian teacher in highschool named Gun.

I recently learned that the English word "gun" comes from the name of a large crossbow or ballista called Gunilda, which is derived from the Old Norse name Gunhild. It's kind of funny to me that the generic name for firearm in English is the name that a bambatant school cafeteria lady would have.
 
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I recently learned that the English word "gun" comes from the name of a large crossbow or ballista called Gunilda, which is derived from the Old Norse name Gunhild. It's kind of funny to me that the generic name for firearm in English is the name that a bambatant school cafeteria lady would have.
In Chinese, if one sentence includes only Gun:
“Gǔn!”
It means * off.

Well, in order to tell this joke, I’m going to receive a warning from community admins for implying something. I confess!

Edit: In modern Chinese spelling, “u” is pronounced like oo in “good”. So similar to “Goon” in English, but pronouncing the “u” much shorter.
 
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Very inappropriate name for a lunch lady!
I checked the dictionary just now. For characters for modern daily use, only two of them pronunce “Gun”.

Except the mentioned one, another character is “Gùn” “stick” — the thing that you need two to make a stone pickaxe in Minecraft. It’s usually not used alone, but comes with some character else to make for a double-characters word.
 
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