Right, I want to try EU2 MP. Maybe not one of the "serious" week-long games... whatever. Anyway, I have a clean EU2 1.08. They say everyone uses the betas, but I'm not quite sure how to install/uninstall them. Also I heard they added a strait betweet Calais and Kent, but I can live with that, probably. Back to the techie stuff- I told Windows Firewall to allow EU2 incoming network connections. Whether that placates it I don't know. I am using wireless internet in a network with several computers using one router. It seems I can get onto the Valkyrie net chat thing but there's never anybody there. Can anyone help this newbie?