The map seems to identify the Caspian Sea as some area that could be navigable (therer are 2 different sea zones in it) yet there are no harbours abutting it or open water access to the Sea. Is it dead space or can one sail it?
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I agree that is seems absurd; which is why I was wondering why the game bothers dividing the Sea into two entities, both sea zones being useless.
I agree that is seems absurd; which is why I was wondering why the game bothers dividing the Sea into two entities, both sea zones being useless.
It could probably be made navigable with a tweak or two. However, I'm not sure if a change to the text files would be enough to do it though.
I have so many things to test...
I have so many things to test...
i have been able to put ports in provinces that were originally not coastal (dobrodja for example)...
i just went into provinces.csv and made the province coastal, set the port_x and port_y to where i wanted the little anchor picture to be (this takes a little trial and error, but use the city_x and city_y as a guide) and set the adjacent sea zone number...works like a charm...
so i don't see why it couldn't be done...except, your navies wouldn't be able to go too far
i just went into provinces.csv and made the province coastal, set the port_x and port_y to where i wanted the little anchor picture to be (this takes a little trial and error, but use the city_x and city_y as a guide) and set the adjacent sea zone number...works like a charm...
so i don't see why it couldn't be done...except, your navies wouldn't be able to go too far
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I agree the fleet could not go far but I guess I was puzzled as to why the caspian Sea seemed non-navigable. After all, why would it not be reasonable to think that the people in Persia would not consider for instance sending a small transport to sea in order to unload some troops on Astrakhan? I agree the Caspian Sea was not a major bustling seaway but heck it allows for richer interaction along its coasts than if you have to walk all the way around, with likely neutreals between you and your goals.
Anyhow, my two cents.
I agree the fleet could not go far but I guess I was puzzled as to why the caspian Sea seemed non-navigable. After all, why would it not be reasonable to think that the people in Persia would not consider for instance sending a small transport to sea in order to unload some troops on Astrakhan? I agree the Caspian Sea was not a major bustling seaway but heck it allows for richer interaction along its coasts than if you have to walk all the way around, with likely neutreals between you and your goals.
Anyhow, my two cents.
Probably not very historical. I'd prefer the game be as historical as possible. Something shouldn't be added merely because it would make the game more interesting.
As to why the Caspian is divided in two, perhaps the zones are used when determining the distance a colonist travels which in turn determines the chance of a successful colonization. Do colonists move through permanent terra incognita? If so, perhaps then there are actually provinces hidden under that to?
I have watched colonists move through permanent terra incognita, so maybe there are...hmmm...now, if we could just get ahold of those provinces..
The other possibility is that the distance is just determined via straight line distance and the number of provinces and sea zones moved through don't fall into the equation. Most likely we'll never know
I am a programmer myself, and my own opinion (and again, this is a style thing) is that it would be MUCH easier and much more realistic and balancing to do it by number of territories, as each territory is supposed to encompass an area of land that is similar in time frame to the ones next to it (i.e. travel time, fatigue from travel, difficulty of crossing in a certain amount of time, etc)
Again, that is how I would do it if I was the programmer-but, they may have done it differently <que's paradox to enter in with a response >
Again, that is how I would do it if I was the programmer-but, they may have done it differently <que's paradox to enter in with a response
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Wouldn't these fabled terra incognita provinces be noticed to scenario makers? Sorry, I don't know enough about scenario editing but isn't each province listed in a file somewhere?
Depends on how it is done-the terra-incognita could be hard-coded into the game, which means that the provinces COULD exist, but they are not necessarily available in the text files, instead they exist only inside the code-which is quite possible-i have done it before as a short-cut (and let me tell you, the time it saves )
Anyway, just my 2 cents worth
)Anyway, just my 2 cents worth
In one of my games Persian troops landed in Astrakhan. How on earth did they do that?
Paradox have said that it is (in response to requests to allow those provinces to be uncovered).